PS3 on a plasma

[sejjie]

Don't get PLASMA's. From day 1 they get worse as the gas depletes. By the time they have hit their 50% MTBF the brightness has nearly halved on them
Not to mention the screen burn problems with dogs.

True, but did you know that with LCD's the backlight burns out after a while and you have to replace the bulb at the back of the telly after a while? When this happen it might even be followed by a sizeable explosion which could cause harm to you and your family.



Really would like to know where this sort of rubbish comes from.

Im a student and sell tellies on the weekends part-time. LCDs and Plasmas both have their pros and cons. Today I sold a Pioneer 4280xd to a movie fanatic who wanted the best telly for movies. Later on I sold a Sony W3000 LCD to another movie fanatic who was also a professional photographer who wanted to view high definition photos on his screen and use his tv as a moniter.

Its all up to the individual.

 

[badbob]

True, but did you know that with LCD's the backlight burns out after a while and you have to replace the bulb at the back of the telly after a while?

Only LCD rear and front projection have bulbs (around £200-£300) bulbs last 2000-3000 hours. For standard flat panel LCD screens you cannot replace the backlight (for a reasonble price) the lifespan of LCD backlight is something like 60,000 hours. So I think by that time you'll be looking at at new LCD screen.

 

[Corasik]

Only LCD rear and front projection have bulbs (around £200-£300) bulbs last 2000-3000 hours. For standard flat panel LCD screens you cannot replace the backlight (for a reasonble price) the lifespan of LCD backlight is something like 60,000 hours. So I think by that time you'll be looking at at new LCD screen.

I thought that too, but on further investigation the backlight in most TFT panels is a simple cold cathode tube. These can last years, however they can fail early causing flicker, uneven light or even complete failer.

In theory the ccfl tubes can be replaced, but many TFT manufacturers change models every year, and generally the tube will last longer than the screens warrenty, and you'll end up being told its more economical to buy a new screen.. Oh this wonderfull disposable world we live in

 

[Shimmyhill]

Badbob,

Plasma uses almost the same power as LCD - LCD uses a constant amount and plasma fluctuates - comparing the max draw of a plasma to an LCD draw is wrong as it will never it max draw.

Res, do you know how much of the res the LCD can move ? Nowhere near as much as plasma - hence why a good 720p plasma will look better than a 1080p LCD in motion as the LCD is actually moving less pixels.

I find pioneer have dancing pixels/noise so dont like them - dont see it on Panny screens but i can see your point there.

CRT is easily the best quality, i dont rate DLP as i can still see rainbows on 3 wheel systems and much prefer JVC Dila to any DLP.

Plasma IMO is the best compromise as it does more things right than wrong, LCDs are cheaper to make and sell and therefore more popular.

 

[manoz]

Was working as a temp in a Dept store today and the 8g Pioneer plasma had by far the best picture quality. LCD quality is increasing all the time but that don't mean plasma isn't

there is no argument needed here...

Anybody in the know... should know that you cannot 'currently' buy ANY better TV - than the Pioneer 4280 / 428xd - It is the BEEES NEEES.

Also far too much for the average consumer

 

[Corasik]

there is no argument needed here...

Anybody in the know... should know that you cannot 'currently' buy ANY better TV - than the Pioneer 4280 / 428xd - It is the BEEES NEEES.

I've seen it side by side with a Panasonic TH42PZ700, and I prefered the Panasonic. Both are very good TV's but there is room for personal preference. Not to mention the panny is 1920x1080 native resolution (which makes plasma's colour dithering even less noticable), and then Panny is considerably cheaper.

Best plasma I've seen to date is the Panasonic TH58PZ700. My god, its crystal clear when fed a HD source, lovely colours, no sign of plasma dithering, good graduations between shades (very smooth). Deep blacks, and even with a low resolution 'Standard Def' source it looks great at 12ft viewing . Bit pricey still, but compared to 50 inch TV's 12 months ago, its not too bad.

 

[sejjie]

Only LCD rear and front projection have bulbs (around £200-£300) bulbs last 2000-3000 hours. For standard flat panel LCD screens you cannot replace the backlight (for a reasonble price) the lifespan of LCD backlight is something like 60,000 hours. So I think by that time you'll be looking at at new LCD screen.

There should be a sarcasm quote. I was making a ridiculous comment about LCDs in response to the garbage espoused about plasmas earlier.

 

[SHANE34]

Does anybody know if Panasonic are to replace any 42" plasma this year ?

I am looking to buy Panasonic TH42PZ700 full HD 1920 X 1080

 

[Corasik]

Does anybody know if Panasonic are to replace any 42" plasma this year ?

I am looking to buy Panasonic TH42PZ700 full HD 1920 X 1080

Thats already 'this years' model. Its just replaced the TH42PX60/600 series. I doubt the PX/PZ80 series will be out anytime soon, and even if they are, the PZ's are already 1080p native resolution, so dont expect a major panel improvement for a while.

Go ahead and get yourself a TH42PZ700, its a stunning television, and my personal 'favorite' 42inch TV on the market at this time. If I didnt already have a TH42PX60 I would buy myself a PZ700 without a second thought.

 

[Mr Latte]

I too agree the blacks are better on the Z series Plasma, than the Sony 1080 LCDS, well from what ive seen. Difficult to say if the Pioneers are worth so much extra, even with their better 1080 /24 performance.

I was going to order the 50 inch panny but ive ordered their new1080 projector instead. Money better spent i reckon, particulary if juding recent owners comments. Besides im too used to movies n games on my 80 inch screen from 8ft back =

 

[Foxor`]

Just so you know PS3 wont upscale the picture to 1080p, if the games 720p and your tv is 1080p only then the PS3 will run at normal tv res (576p IIRC (its 4:45am))

 

[SHANE34]

Just so you know PS3 wont upscale the picture to 1080p, if the games 720p and your tv is 1080p only then the PS3 will run at normal tv res (576p IIRC (its 4:45am)

You talking about TH42PZ700 ?

 

[Corasik]

Just so you know PS3 wont upscale the picture to 1080p, if the games 720p and your tv is 1080p only then the PS3 will run at normal tv res (576p IIRC (its 4:45am))

Nothing to worry about for the Panny then, its supports...

1080p@24hz, 1080p@50hz, 1080p@60hz
720p@50hz, 720p@60hz (Dunno if it supports 720p@24)

576P and 480P support as well.

The PS3 should surely output games at a native unscaled resolution IE 720P games should be output at 720P, and im sure that all 1080p TV's support 720. At the worst case if it doesnt work automatically you would surely tell the setup the PS3 for 720P output before playing a 720p game. /confused

 

[Columbo]

Go LCD. Plasmas have major issues.

Please explain? I'd love to know some of these 'serious issues'. As an owner of 1 37" LCD, and and 2 plasma's, I'd like to know exactly whats going to go wrong.

I have a Pioneer 436 which is stunning and an old Samsung which is now 5 years old which still to this day kicks any LCD i've seen into touch on SD, my step-daughter uses the 37" in her bedroom which she is perfectly happy with but the pic quality is bum on SD, but it does look great when used with her PC.

 

[Foxor`]

Nothing to worry about for the Panny then, its supports...

1080p@24hz, 1080p@50hz, 1080p@60hz
720p@50hz, 720p@60hz (Dunno if it supports 720p@24)

576P and 480P support as well.

The PS3 should surely output games at a native unscaled resolution IE 720P games should be output at 720P, and im sure that all 1080p TV's support 720. At the worst case if it doesnt work automatically you would surely tell the setup the PS3 for 720P output before playing a 720p game. /confused

i mean, if the tv dont support 720p the ps3 wont play games in 1080p, not all HDTV's support 720p some skip that , theres loads of fourm posts on PSN asking for devs to include 1080p for people that cant use 720p on there TV's.

 

[Mr Latte]

I thought only really early 1080i sets (mostly in USA) had a 720p compatibility issue. The reason was 85% of HDTV brodcasts in USA are 1080i and they had HDTVs as much as 2-3 years before us with CRT HDTVs and many rear projection models being popular.
Im not aware of any major brand in the UK or indeed Europe not supporting 720p particulary as most of the early HDTVs in UK/Europe were 1280x720 or 1366x768 panels with 42" Plasma in 1024x768.

Any 1080p Tv will support 720p FACT

 

[barnettgs]

Burn myth?!

From What HiFi:

Neither. It's just not as simple as that, no matter what that bloke down the pub told you. We judge TVs based on their individual merit, not their technology. In some size categories, that means our best buy is an LCD; in others, we've gone for a plasma. An increasingly outmoded rule of thumb is that plasmas tend to have better black levels, while LCDs usually offer higher resolution: as you'll see, those divisions are becoming blurred of late. And as for the hype that plasmas always suffer from screen burn, or that they need to be 'regassed' regularly – well, that's just rot.

 

[Fr0dders]

i mean, if the tv dont support 720p the ps3 wont play games in 1080p, not all HDTV's support 720p some skip that , theres loads of fourm posts on PSN asking for devs to include 1080p for people that cant use 720p on there TV's.

these people must be using some weird sets

any modern set bought in the last year or two will support 720p (it has to, to be classed as the all important "HD Ready") and some support 1080p additionally.

and think about it, if it can display 1920 x 1080, why can it not upscale 720p content ? its got to be able to upscale standard definition so why not 720

either ther are some funky american sets or something or you've got the wrong end of the stick.

 

[the_tyke]

Well I've gone for the Pioneer Plasma PDP 428 XD and it's quite frankly jaw dropping. SD is most impressive ! Almost as good as HD in some cases !