PS3 question - blu-ray over component

I can see both sides of this arguement - enough people dont have hdmi or componant on their sets so why bundle them, the other saying that the cable would be so cheap it shouldnt matter:D

Personally consoles have never come with anything more than a composite cable - Core's dont come with anything additional to that (I have no idea about wii's default cables but believe its composite also)

Personally always thought vfm for the PS3 (and the core for that matter) was about right - even these new av amps with HDMI passthrough dont come with hdmi either, again no real issue ( and they are vastly more expensive than a PS3)

The whole av equipment industry has usually provided as few cables as is required (speakers and amps come with no audio cables etc), dvd recorders usually come with scart still instead of hdmi (where applicable) its a REALLY old arguement, Sony arent by any means the only guilty party

/rant over :D
 
I'm just going off the 360 premium, they get Component and SCART adaptor, I think Sony should have gone down the same route.

But its not that important :)
 
Unless they manufacture the cables themselves they'd have to source them somewhere.

This would push cost up, etc etc..
 
If my last name was Sony I would insist that a HDMI cable would be bundled at least, it only costs a couple of quid and it saves the annoyance of people opening up the box and not being able to connect their PS3 because they lack a 5 quid cable.
 
V1N said:
When I got my PS3, I had one of the first bundles that included an HDMI cable.

I was pretty sad that the original Sony box didn't include an HDMI cable.
Thing is, where do you stop?

If they'd included a component cable, that would've been useless to me, and stayed in the box.
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Why would a component cable have been useless to you?
Every HDTV made has component... the same can't be said for HDMI.

Also, it was the shop that bundled HDMI, not Sony.
 
EVH said:
Unless they manufacture the cables themselves they'd have to source them somewhere.

This would push cost up, etc etc..
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By pennies (literally) given the cost to manufacture the cables, and the price when buying in bulk.

You can buy cheap HDMI cables for about a pound from some retailers, and that is after the markup, taxes and shipping costs for a low value, high bulk item (so the cable in that case is probably pennies...).
 
Werewolf said:
By pennies (literally) given the cost to manufacture the cables, and the price when buying in bulk.

You can buy cheap HDMI cables for about a pound from some retailers, and that is after the markup, taxes and shipping costs for a low value, high bulk item (so the cable in that case is probably pennies...).
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Yes, I suppose..

It would still cost them something if they bought them elsewhere.
 
NokkonWud said:
Why would a component cable have been useless to you?
Every HDTV made has component... the same can't be said for HDMI.

Also, it was the shop that bundled HDMI, not Sony.
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A component cable would've been useless to me, as I'd never have used it.
It would've just stayed in the box.

If the shop bundled HDMI cable (yes, I know it was bundled, one of the reasons I picked a shop bundle at the time) hadn't been included, I'd simply have bought one, and still not used the component cable.

V1N.
 
EVH said:
Yes, I suppose..

It would still cost them something if they bought them elsewhere.
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True, but it costs MS money to bundle a custom component cable with the premium (much more than if it was an industry standard one), and they've been doing it since day one.
They've also been including a HDMI cable and a second custom cable with the HDMI enabled 360's.

I guess it just makes Sony seem too cheap to include a part that is essential to make use of the systems full potential (and very odd, given the emphasis on the PS3 being a HD entertainment system to only include a 20 year old, SD cable).
 
I agree.

If you're going to tout the console as "Full HD, Blu Ray blah" then you're just being cheap by making the consumer buy the very leads, that without them you can't play or watch in HD.
 
V1N said:
A component cable would've been useless to me, as I'd never have used it.
It would've just stayed in the box.

If the shop bundled HDMI cable (yes, I know it was bundled, one of the reasons I picked a shop bundle at the time) hadn't been included, I'd simply have bought one, and still not used the component cable.

V1N.
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But is a component (a HD ready cable) not better than bundling a composite (an SD cable)? I'd have thought it blatently obvious that bundling a component cable, a cable ALL HD owners can use would be better than just composite.

And I've used Component and HDMI on PS3 and at 720p/1080i there is no difference.
 
EVH said:
I agree.

If you're going to tout the console as "Full HD, Blu Ray blah" then you're just being cheap by making the consumer buy the very leads, that without them you can't play or watch in HD.
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Yes, it would be very disappointing if you got the box home, and were stuck with composite only.

Much like when you buy a printer, and they don't come with a printer cable. (at least this used to be the case)

Shame they couldn't have some kind of scheme, whereby you can select which cable you'll be requiring on purchase.

I guess this would be easy to implement in stores, harder online.

It is hard to know what's best.
You could say they should include a HDMI cable in the box, as it's the only way to get "full HD" out of it, to watch blurays in 1080p etc. But then you could argue that more people have component than HDMI. But, component doesn't offer "full HD" so people who want to get the best out of it, would still have to buy an additional cable.

The only way to please all the people, woud be to include SD, component and HDMI cables as standard.

As yes, at the end of the day, what would the end cost to Sony be, per unit?

I also guess they take into account the fact that consoles are already being sold at a loss.

I think the main thing, is that when they're sold, it should be made clear than an additional HD cable is required, for HD use.

V1N.
 
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