PS3 vs 360 graphics

[Raikiri]

As i've said before this all depends on which format wins the war really, the way so many Sony Fanboys keep going on about Blu-Ray and it being a big plus point of owning the PS3 just hope for thier sake Blu-Ray wins otherwise theres going to be a lot of people crying.

I do My computer is a lot quieter than my 360 which sucks, but then as has been said you generally don't play games with the TV muted and most people have headphones.

 

[LadFromWales]

lol I can barely hear my pc! My sempron machine across the room makes many times the amount of noise as my main pc, as it has stock lian-li 120mm's in it. My 360 is louder than both when the drive is spinning, but then it is sitting 2 feet away from me on my wooden computer desk, no doubt causing it resonate and soud louder than it really is. Doesn't bother me even when I can hear it, I'm not listening out for it, it doesn't detract from the gameplay at all.

 

[Joebob]

You lot are unbeleivable... whenever anyone says anything about the PS3 all we get back is how that doesn't count because it doesn't bother/effect YOU.

Data storage doesn't bother ME so it doesnt count.

My router is right next to my 360 so having wireless doesn't count.

etc.

At the end of the day I think that the 360 is a decent console and I'm sure it will do very well and make up a much higher market share than the Xbox did, but you need to remember that there are A LOT of Playstation fans out there who want the PS3 to also play their back catalogue of PS1 & PS2 games. There are also A LOT of people who own PSP's who want the interconnectivity. Plus there's A LOT of people who want a cheap Blu-ray player. Then there's A LOT of people who want it because they beleive it will be a damn good console.

So I'm failry confident that when Sony get their supply issues sorted out then we will see them shifting plenty of units. When they have plenty of units out then we will obviousley see more games coming out.

Microsoft have had over a years head start so there are going to be loads more games coming out. But most people buy a console for the long term and don't have the luxury of getting every console which comes out. People like that will look for longevity it their machines, which for me is what the Playstation 3 has.

 

[McManicMan]

there is also a lot or people who won't pay £425 + before any games for a console

 

[Joebob]

there is also a lot or people who won't pay £425 + before any games for a console

Sony launch prices have always been high, give it a little time and it will come down to a reasonable amount. Same goes with Blu-ray games, developers are saying the costs of publishing on them are high now, but it's like anything - the more the format is used the more the price of production will drop.

 

[Raikiri]

You lot are unbeleivable... whenever anyone says anything about the PS3 all we get back is how that doesn't count because it doesn't bother/effect YOU.

Data storage doesn't bother ME so it doesnt count.

My router is right next to my 360 so having wireless doesn't count.

etc.

Well then, who should I base my own personal opinions on? I gave the reason for me not buying it personally.

A lot of people won't have a wireless router.

A lot of people won't want to pay £550+ with 2 games and 2 controllers.

A lot of people don't care about Blu-Ray.

A lot of people don't have a bluetooth headset.

A lot of people don't know what a GB is, let alone how many a Blu Ray disc can hold over a DVD.

etc.

 

[Chrisss]

Of course it will make games better. It has faster access times than DVD and up to 5 times the storage capacity. You can expect to see some software houses in the future wanting to exploit the fact that they now have over 25Gb of data storage to play with.

Games cost millions and millions of dollars to make, now seeing as PS3 games will be retailing for the same price of 360 games, where is the incentive for developers to spend millions more dollars on making games longer and fully exploiting that 25GB?

 

[Chrisss]

I can't believe thedoc46 has actualyl called someone else a fanboy, when he comes out with statements like...

The only argument that can be said about the 360 is that it currently has a better catalogue, and that won't be for much longer

 

[Joebob]

Well then, who should I base my own personal opinions on? I gave the reason for me not buying it personally.

A lot of people won't have a wireless router.

A lot of people won't want to pay £550+ with 2 games and 2 controllers.

A lot of people don't care about Blu-Ray.

A lot of people don't have a bluetooth headset.

A lot of people don't know what a GB is, let alone how many a Blu Ray disc can hold over a DVD.

etc.

Jeesh, my head hurts from banging it against this wall.

Ok, fine so a lot of people don't want the above and a lot of people do! whatever!

The original post on this thread was to compare GFX from both machines on certain games - looking over those games again I realised that they are not even true next gen games anyway. None of them look a cut above last gen IMO. The only real improvement is the resolution.
We will have to wait for maybe a few more generations of games to come out before we can truly compare.



There is one game which I am truly looking forward too and that's MotorStorm.

 

[Raikiri]

Jeesh, my head hurts from banging it against this wall.

Don't worry the feeling is quite mutual.

If we're comparing graphics then surely GoW would be the best one to go with as that really is next gen.

 

[Things change I've changed]

Jeesh, my head hurts from banging it against this wall.

Then stop doing it then

Ok, fine so a lot of people don't want the above and a lot of people do! whatever!

The original post on this thread was to compare GFX from both machines on certain games - looking over those games again I realised that they are not even true next gen games anyway. None of them look a cut above last gen IMO. The only real improvement is the resolution.
We will have to wait for maybe a few more generations of games to come out before we can truly compare.

So looking over those games again you did'nt notice that the 360 shots looked a lot better, instead you blame it on the fact that you think the games that are being compared are not true next gen, but what has that got to do with the original post if your nit picking why others have went off topic, does it really matter if there true next gen or not ?, for months we've heard nothing but Sony Fans going on how amazing the graphics are going to be the the PS3 and how it's going to pumel the 360 into the dirt, now we actually have some games to compare Sony fanboys just come out with new excuses, now it's because the games are not true next gen, thats why the 360 versions look better...........yeh right

There is one game which I am truly looking forward too and that's MotorStorm.

Yes you hold onto motor storm, that will save you, just like GT has.

 

[dustiestrat]

. People like that will look for longevity it their machines, which for me is what the Playstation 3 has.

ps3 won't have a particularly long life compared to previous ps's due to sony releasing it so far behind microsoft that by the time ps3 gets itself running with a nice catalogue of games microsoft will be releasing the brand spanking new box.

 

[Demon]

I must admit to not being able to say any clear difference between the 360 and PS3 versions of these naff games.. (except the obvious gamma and lighting differences)

I see both consoles being as capable as each other.. I don't really think there is a case of 'which is better'.. they are both excellent consoles..

What I do disagree with the PS3 is the unbelievable hype that surrounds it, in no-way on any planet, at anytime is the PS3 in any way 'vastly superior' or '8 times more powerful' or 'the most advanced console ever'.. which is what Joe public is being told and seeming to believe..

IMO the 360 is better then the PS3 at the moment, not in terms of any hardware features, but simply the amount of quality games and XBox Live..

I think anyone 'defending' the PS3 based on speculative comparisons needs to be careful
1. There is plenty of speculation and the idea is being touted around that the PS3 fist gen titles are going to be vastly improved upon, overtaking the 360 to eventually be technically superior to the 360. I don't think there is a shred of evidence to assume anything other then both will continue to improve, and they will always be about the same level.
2. That Blu-ray is the future. The future of HD formats is so unclear, it's a real gamble. Go and look on AVFORUMS to see the daily speculation, no-one knows, there are many hundreds of reasons Hd-DVD/BLURAY will survive/die.


My brothers PS3 import has arrived this morning, he's got 2 360's, a Wii and the PS3.. so I'll pop around and check it out myself..

 

[dirtydog]

ps3 won't have a particularly long life compared to previous ps's due to sony releasing it so far behind microsoft that by the time ps3 gets itself running with a nice catalogue of games microsoft will be releasing the brand spanking new box.

How is it in consumers' interests for consoles to be brought out every few years? The PS2 has lasted about seven years hasn't it? The Xbox lasted about four before Microsoft unceremoniously killed it. I'm not sure how you think this benefits consumers other than those who have pots of cash.

 

[Naffa]

Yeah, but wasn't the Xbox released considerably later than the PS2?

(That wasn't sarcy, it was a genuine question).

 

[dirtydog]

Yeah, but wasn't the Xbox released considerably later than the PS2?

(That wasn't sarcy, it was a genuine question).

That's my point.

 

[The Running Man]

Then stop doing it then



for months we've heard nothing but Sony Fans going on how amazing the graphics are going to be the the PS3 and how it's going to pumel the 360 into the dirt, now we actually have some games to compare Sony fanboys just come out with new excuses, now it's because the games are not true next gen, thats why the 360 versions look better...........yeh right

Yes you hold onto motor storm, that will save you, just like GT has.

where? where have these fanboys been saying how much better PS3 gfx would be over xbox360?

i am sure it has been common knowledge (at least to the people on here) that the gfx will be virtually indiscernable between the 2 consoles given the constraints of the 2 GPU's...

so im not sure where all this is coming from

 

[dirtydog]

where? where have these fanboys been saying how much better PS3 gfx would be over xbox360?

i am sure it has been common knowledge (at least to the people on here) that the gfx will be virtually indiscernable between the 2 consoles given the constraints of the 2 GPU's...

so im not sure where all this is coming from

Indeed. And even if one or two people have foolishly made such outlandish claims, that doesn't mean that anyone else who says anything positive about the PS3 should be tarred with the same brush!

 

[wannabedamned]

I think both consoles are about even. Slight wins here and there (Capacity of Bluray, GPU of the 360)

If they were priced the same, I'd be hard pushed to decide between them.

At the current time, I'd most likely buy a 360 If both consoles were the same price. Mainly because of the games available for the 360 now. Simply put none of the current PS3 games appeal to me.

I want a PS3, Dont get me wrong, But the only reason i'm having second thoughts about a launch console, Is the lack of games that I want to play on it.

Yes I understand some of the games for the 360 are out for the PS3, But I don't think I'd pay the extra cash for a console that runs the same games as a cheaper one.

I'm far from a Microsoft fan boy.

It's just the wrong time for me to buy a PS3, When the anticipated games start being released, thats more my time to buy the PS3.

So in the end it's the games that have decided which console I am going for, and surely it should be the same for most.

Obviously if you can't afford both an Xbox 360 and then a PS3 in the future, Then waiting for the PS3 would be the only option to those waiting for the great titles I am waiting for.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

I thought the PS2 was 2000 and the Xbox was late 2001?
Did Microsoft not stop making the Xbox because Nvidia stopped producing the chipset?