PSU Tier List, Gospel or not?

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I’ve got my eye on a Silverstone St1300-Ti and it is currently in the E Tier of the list. I had a quick scan of their methodology, and while it seems solid from tiers A-D, they mention that PSUs in the E tier can be there because they can be “units there are too little information on to be reliably tiered.
Anyone got any experience with this PSU, or any comments on the reliability of the Tier List?
 
If I was looking today I'd probably start by checking if Cooler Master were still good. My current CM 700W PSU has lasted 15 years already!
 
You need to be really careful with Coolermaster psu's as they have had some terrible units over the years. I presume yours is a V series as it's lasted so long? They were built by Seasonic and were the best of Coolermasters psu's at the time. Most of the others were truly terrible.
 
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pastymuncher said:
Why that psu in particular? It's very expensive at a penny under £300 plus it's discontinued now. You are better off going for a modern up to date psu and sticking to something Gold rated because you will never save enough electricity to make up the massive price premium of Titanium.
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Thought I could get it for cheaper :). Looking at a CoolerMaster MWE 1250 Watt gold, haven’t seen anyone say anything too bad about it, except the rma process. Hard to find psus nowadays with 5 pcie/cpu slots. C1200 only has 4 and doesn’t come with a 12vhwpr to 2x8pin pcie like ASUS’ ones do. Same with be quiet I think.
 
I’ve had problems with a phantech (used like new) that took out some memory, although my main pc has a phantech and has been ok.

Had an XFX that kept looping on boot. Ocuk sorted via RMA.

Been ok with Corsair and a cheap 400w gigabyte,

I have built a few pcs with cheap Vida new psus and they have been fine, but I normally go for 650w in systems that draw about 300w.
 
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I really hope you are joking because if you believe any of that crap you are asking for your system to be trashed. Do you honestly think you are getting any quality at all with a so called 650w psu that costs less than £22? Remember the saying "if it sounds too good to be true then it usually is"? It's definately the case with this garbage. Your so called 650w psu isn't a 650w psu. It only has 360w on the 12v rail and I doubt if it would even manage that. How many 650w psu's come with a single 6+2 pin pci-e cable? None that are of any quality.

By all means blow your own computer up but don't go suggesting garbage psu's to others.
 
pastymuncher said:
I really hope you are joking because if you believe any of that crap you are asking for your system to be trashed. Do you honestly think you are getting any quality at all with a so called 650w psu that costs less than £22? Remember the saying "if it sounds too good to be true then it usually is"? It's definately the case with this garbage. Your so called 650w psu isn't a 650w psu. It only has 360w on the 12v rail and I doubt if it would even manage that. How many 650w psu's come with a single 6+2 pin pci-e cable? None that are of any quality.

By all means blow your own computer up but don't go suggesting garbage psu's to others.
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Just sharing my experiance of psus. All psus can cause problems and 2 that I have had problems with have been branded ones. I even said that the 650w I sometimes use I only put in low power draw pcs.

It’s so easy to come along and say “don’t scrimp on a Psu” and always “get the best”. I’m just saying some of the cheap ones have been fine for me.

I even have a 400w gigabyte Psu in a spare and people often say that gigabyte will blow your house up too purely based on a bad batch of high end ones.

Most Psu threads always have the blow your pc experts come along sooner or later.
 
Scooby-DoobyDoo said:
Just sharing my experiance of psus. All psus can cause problems and 2 that I have had problems with have been branded ones. I even said that the 650w I sometimes use I only put in low power draw pcs.

It’s so easy to come along and say “don’t scrimp on a Psu” and always “get the best”. I’m just saying some of the cheap ones have been fine for me.

I even have a 400w gigabyte Psu in a spare and people often say that gigabyte will blow your house up too purely based on a bad batch of high end ones.

Most Psu threads always have the blow your pc experts come along sooner or later.
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I'm going to keep saying it until I'm blue in the face since advice like this ^ is dangerous.

Suggesting an entire brands PSU range because you had a good experience with one model of theirs is just not advice anyone should suggest.

Do not buy a brand. Every single brand makes good and bad PSUs, some more than others. Buy a model within a brand with good reviews.

And to answer OPs question, tier lists are dumb and subjective on people's opinions like if the PSU has Japanese caps which make no real difference to the quality of the PSU overall.

Here's a roundup of PSU reviews on the LTT labs website but check out multiple sources (tomshardware, Gamers Nexus, etc) before making a choice.
 
You say say "advice like this is dangerous" and then go on to repeat what I have said which is that all PSUs can cause problems even branded ones.

Your expert view is to read reviews from the tech site. Surely everyone knows thats the best way to purchase any tech.

What I have posted is my experance of branded and non branded and agree that both can have problems. I can't see anywhere where I am recommending PSU's.

I've been building PC's for 30 years. Worked in a large PC reseller and saw what PSU's they put in their PC's on the production line (they wern't the best) and could see return rates. But I guess you have more expreiance and are better qualified to call my comments Dangerous as you read reviews.
 
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Scooby-DoobyDoo said:
I have built a few pcs with cheap Vida new psus and they have been fine, but I normally go for 650w in systems that draw about 300w.
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All of your statements are generic comments around brands but I've highlighted this one as particularly bad.
Scooby-DoobyDoo said:
Just sharing my experiance of psus. All psus can cause problems and 2 that I have had problems with have been branded ones. I even said that the 650w I sometimes use I only put in low power draw pcs.

It’s so easy to come along and say “don’t scrimp on a Psu” and always “get the best”. I’m just saying some of the cheap ones have been fine for me.

I even have a 400w gigabyte Psu in a spare and people often say that gigabyte will blow your house up too purely based on a bad batch of high end ones.

Most Psu threads always have the blow your pc experts come along sooner or later.
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Almost all of your advice or comments are like this, are vague and are confusing at best and are actually just softly worded purchase recommendations which is dangerous.

You do go on to add to refer to reviews but you also (basically) recommend budget gigabyte PSUs in your 3rd sentence there based on the comparison to the very poor design of midrange PSUs by Gigbabytes which were found to be dangerous.

Don't make vague comments like the ones in this thread because 1 brand of budget PSU happened to work for you. It's bad advice.

Provide links to actual review sites in your comments and don't squirm and try get out of it later on when you get called out by myself, @pastymuncher and @tamzzy and add more comments.
 
JollyJamma said:
All of your statements are generic comments around brands but I've highlighted this one as particularly bad.


Almost all of your advice or comments are like this, are vague and are confusing at best and are actually just softly worded purchase recommendations which is dangerous.

You do go on to add to refer to reviews but you also (basically) recommend budget gigabyte PSUs in your 3rd sentence there based on the comparison to the very poor design of midrange PSUs by Gigbabytes which were found to be dangerous.

Don't make vague comments like the ones in this thread because 1 brand of budget PSU happened to work for you. It's bad advice.

Provide links to actual review sites in your comments and don't squirm and try get out of it later on when you get called out by myself, @pastymuncher and @tamzzy and add more comments.
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I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack me calling my comments dangerous vague and confusing. My comments were my experiances of PSU's and how some branded ones cause problems I am sorry if this confuses you. You also said the same. I know I will never win an argument in recommending a cheap PSU expecially in a high spec PC and I haven't I just said I have used cheaper PSU's in low power draw PC's. I am not trying to squirm out of anything and I don't know what gives you permission to tell me not to make comments, again I haven't given any advice just my experiance. Are you a moderator here?

If all advice was to read reviews why would we need a forum to express views and experiances of components. I will not respond any more as I feel like I am feeding you.

I shall also report your post as I don't think it's in the spirit of the forums and "Don't make vague comments like the ones in this thread because 1 brand of budget PSU happened to work for you." should really only come from a moderator.
 
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fraps said:
I’ve got my eye on a Silverstone St1300-Ti and it is currently in the E Tier of the list. I had a quick scan of their methodology, and while it seems solid from tiers A-D, they mention that PSUs in the E tier can be there because they can be “units there are too little information on to be reliably tiered.
Anyone got any experience with this PSU, or any comments on the reliability of the Tier List?
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Taking on the advice from above.

This might help, it's a review of the PSU you are looking at :)

pcper.com

SilverStone Strider 1300W Titanium Power Supply Review - PC Perspective

SilverStone Strider 1300W Titanium Power Supply Review Introduction
pcper.com pcper.com
 
Scooby-DoobyDoo said:
I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack me calling my comments dangerous vague and confusing. My comments were my experiances of PSU's and how some branded ones cause problems I am sorry if this confuses you. You also said the same. I know I will never win an argument in recommending a cheap PSU expecially in a high spec PC and I haven't I just said I have used cheaper PSU's in low power draw PC's. I am not trying to squirm out of anything and I don't know what gives you permission to tell me not to make comments, again I haven't given any advice just my experiance. Are you a moderator here?

If all advice was to read reviews why would we need a forum to express views and experiances of components. I will not respond any more as I feel like I am feeding you.

I shall also report your post as I don't think it's in the spirit of the forums and "Don't make vague comments like the ones in this thread because 1 brand of budget PSU happened to work for you." should really only come from a moderator.
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Are you really that naive? People come on here for advice and guidance and often spend their hard earned money based on peoples recommendations so when you go saying that you have had no problems with a certain budget brand they could take that as a recommendation. We genuinely have people come on here who know next to nothing about pc's but want to learn and they see the nonsense you are spouting, even quoting the make believe garbage that the manufacturers claim as per post #12 and see a psu that is falsely labelled as a 650w unit for less than £22 then see a quality one that we have suggested costing near £100 and they think, "well they are both 650w so I will go with the cheaper one) only for it to fail and kill their pc. They are then several hundred, maybe even over a thousand pounds out of pocket all because someone gave a rubbish opinion. I believe we had a run in on cheap psu's a couple of years ago and it's sad to see you haven't learnt anything since then.

As for reporting JollyJamma, he had every right to call you out on poor advice/opinions for exactly the reasons I have stated above so hopefully that complaint won't go anywhere.
 
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