Public Sector

"If Mike travels at 20mph for forty minutes how long will it take him to cover fifteen miles", and stuff like that which was not relevant to the role I was applying for.

lets not forget the public sector worker would be -

90 mins to do 15 miles - he would need a tea break, a cigarette break, some flexi time, then would need one of his colleges to help with the driving.
 
Bit like asking if there are any opinionated Fully star those words out please - Gilly here.

Apologies, presumed the swear filter would deal with words that are not allowed.
 
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I think the problem with Public Sector is generally the pay.

The big problem with the public sector is that it's not there to make money. They have an allocated budget from the government to run a department "as efficiently as possible" (in theory). If the allocated budget doesn't increase, then workers wages aren't increased either.

In contrast to the private sector who's main aim as a business is to make money. Assuming you work for a good company, generally the more money the business makes, the more rewards the employees get.


Automatic progression through the steps within your band was stopped I think? Back when I was in the NHS you got a incriment increase every year just for turning up, as well as whatever cost of living increase your union Rep was able to blag for you.

The problem i see with automatic progression is that it doesn't encourage employees to perform better. Those who want more than the "automatic progression" rate, will strive to perform better anyway. Put it this way, if automatic progression was the only way for a pay rise, you turn up at work and work your ******** off and get your 1-2% increase at the end of the year. Whereas your colleague turns up, does about 5 hours work with no effort or care in the world, and still gets the same 1-2% increase. You're not going to be a happy person are you.
 
Public sector has to work within tight frameworks and pre-defined processes. This limits the flexibility of the workforce considerably, and can make staff seem more uncooperative than they actually are.

Sometimes these processes actually work as intended and things work smoothly, other times you want to smack heads together.

Private sector relies more on the quality of staff. Good people tend to perform better there and they have more freedom to do what they think is needed.

A private company full of idiots though, is worse than a local council.
 
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So much for Job Security. I am guessing this thread is referring primarily to the dotted grey line.
 
I think most public sector (council works) are lazy %^&$

Private sector often do the same job better, quicker and for less.

Sack the public sector*




*excluding Doctors and Teachers
 
It is far worse than that OP. I would include lazy doctors and nurses and especially teachers. Teachers are the laziest workers out there. The hardest part about teaching is dealing with the bureaucracy of the system. Near me we have a pharmacy that closes for lunch. Its open hours are ridiculous, its like they have no incentive to make money.

This is the main difference between private and public. When the profit motive is removed then there is no incentive to do any hardwork. The worse that can happen is they don't meet some arbitrary targets which are often set within reach. This is why my local GP has such a bad attitude. He drives a brand new Mercedes and complains about having to see patients.
 
I think most public sector (council works) are lazy %^&$

Private sector often do the same job better, quicker and for less.

Sack the public sector*




*excluding Doctors and Teachers

It's comments like this that make me think our education system has failed. Let's sack all NHS staff, have the doctors do everything from cleaning floors, ordering medicines, answering the phone, managing staff, handling disciplinaries, ensuring legislation is followed, delivering equipment, supporting computer systems, writing code for new computer systems, running patient groups etc etc.

Now's let's do the same with schools.. only teachers remember. So who's manning reception? Who's in the nurses office looking after sick kids, who's emptying bins? who's in charge of the teachers? Who's ordering up supplies? Who's cutting the grass? etc. :rolleyes:
 
It's comments like this that make me think our education system has failed. Let's sack all NHS staff, have the doctors do everything from cleaning floors, ordering medicines, answering the phone, managing staff, handling disciplinaries, ensuring legislation is followed, delivering equipment, supporting computer systems, writing code for new computer systems, running patient groups etc etc.

Now's let's do the same with schools.. only teachers remember. So who's manning reception? Who's in the nurses office looking after sick kids, who's emptying bins? who's in charge of the teachers? Who's ordering up supplies? Who's cutting the grass? etc. :rolleyes:

And who's managing the hundreds of billions of pounds worth of contracts you've just let?
 
It is far worse than that OP. I would include lazy doctors and nurses and especially teachers. Teachers are the laziest workers out there. The hardest part about teaching is dealing with the bureaucracy of the system. Near me we have a pharmacy that closes for lunch. Its open hours are ridiculous, its like they have no incentive to make money.

This is the main difference between private and public. When the profit motive is removed then there is no incentive to do any hardwork. The worse that can happen is they don't meet some arbitrary targets which are often set within reach. This is why my local GP has such a bad attitude. He drives a brand new Mercedes and complains about having to see patients.

A pharmacy? They are privately owned no personal insults. Thank you..
 
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