Public Warning: Joe Bastardi: “Severe Event” For Europe

Ok, Epic veiled (thinly) insults and pictures of door furniture.

Bread storage solutions part of this thred was also good, concidering the opening post and title.

Edit: On a serious note, how bad could the weather get? Just low temps or heavy snow again? I could do with some snow.

I read something yesterday about getting "lake effect snow" off the sea where cold air picks up lots of moisture from the warmer sea and dumps it on the UK as snow. Its called lake effect because it happens around the great lakes in N America but it's possible to happen in this situation.

Can't find the article but this one is interesting too.

http://www.irishweatheronline.com/2010/12/arctic-outbreak-is-done-deal-peter.html

"We have to keep in mind that we're looking at weather maps that very few people have seen in real time, maybe if you were working in a met office in late 1962 or early 1963, or in Feb 1947. That's how dramatic this pattern is”
 
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By the time we get to the latter part of next week and on into the Christmas week, this is a severe event, no question about it.

We’re looking at a top 5 or 10 cold December.

I feel we should warn you, things are going to be real nasty in the next 2 weeks, and perhaps 3 weeks.”


Stock up on supplies as if it hits of Xmas there will be less traffic so roads will be a lot worse and less support for those who are out on the roads.
You make it sound like there's going to be some sort of terrorist attack! :p
 
Joe Bastardi has a very good track record on forecasts.

http://www.accuweather.com/ukie/bastardi-europe-blog.asp

I see a problem here - I don't know the guy so he may well have a good record. Accuweather, on the other hand, don't (in my book). That was a year or two ago though so they may have improved their models since then. They were using heavily US-biased models (understandable given their core market) which might be accurate for the US but weren't much good in the UK. I don't know if the Met Office models have the reverse problem.

Anyway, what he's basically saying is we'll have more of what we've just had. This isn't news given that it was predicted a week or so ago.

Just in case, as long as I've got electricity I'm good for a couple of months. :)
 
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Looks like its going to kick off on Friday :)

Looks good for snow here this weekend, missed out on the last batch with only a dusting.
 
I cant handle that video link in the OP.

He doesn't sound like he knows what he is talking about.
The map etc... is not good enough, there is only contours and no actual pressure readings.
It is not looping, instead just pictures.

And -1 is not severe

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For the doubters, Bastardi first mentioned this at the end of November, he also mentioned things warming up again by the end of Dec and Jan. Now he's just re-confirming things with newer models.

If the UK recieves lake-effect snow then hold onto you're hats because its nasty.

Platinum, its a long range forecast, anything more than what he already has would be uber-speculative.
 
Crazy weather....

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... you say?
 
I cant handle that video link in the OP.

He doesn't sound like he knows what he is talking about.
The map etc... is not good enough, there is only contours and no actual pressure readings.
It is not looping, instead just pictures.

And -1 is not severe

Thumbs down

I have to agree with the latter point, but it's not just him unfortunately. Extremely cold seems to be overused a lot. To me that means I'll be heading out in -20 degree cold, but to weather forecasters it seems that's -1. The other thing that gets me every time is "well below freezing", again. -3 to -4? Really? It's not like someone who goes 35 in a 30 is going well above the speed limit are they, that's reserved for much bigger numbers.:rolleyes:

Either way it looks like another couple of days of frost and some nice chilly air. If we're lucky we may get some proper snow for the first time in 2-3 years!
 
[FnG]magnolia;17994746 said:
EVERYBODY PANIC THE WEATHER IS TRYING TO KILL US!

Alternatively, it'll be a bit cold. Take sensible precautions but don't be 'that guy' who empties 58 loaves of bread into his Sainsburys trolley.

I fail to understand where they have the space to put it all. :confused:

Same as those people who don't work for essential services and then have to have their petrol tank full all the time, and carry petrol in a can?

I hope Bristol is in that micro-climate again and we miss out on the snow until at least this time next week, I need to get to work to find out about the future of my job a week today.
 
[TW]Fox;17994804 said:
Just for those who didnt read the link also posted, here is what the SAME PERSON has said today:

Whats your point, the video was posted on the 9th, he says there is between 2-3 weeks of bad weather, then it will warm up, now he's saying, it will warm up just after xmas and through the new year. 2 weeks from 9th december, 23rd December, he says the cold weather will last into XMAS WEEK, not specifically to Xmas.

Theres nothing contradictory about updating more accurately when it will get warm, and it doesn't fly against what he said previously.

If you notice the last part of the vid shows Dec 24th, and the cold area/blue area is much smaller but still over the UK/scandinavia, and is clearly warming up.

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=cet;sess=

Normal average over the past 30 years, 5.1c, current, 0.21c.


http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20101209/tuk-worst-december-weather-for-nearly-30-dba1618.html

Across most of the the UK there has been a slight thaw, on Wednesday most parts of the country saw the mercury reach between minus 2C and 2C, while the warmest area was Cromer in Norfolk, where temperatures reached 5.8C. However in Carlisle temperatures barely moved above minus 8C all day.

Average december temps from various sources seem to agree with this

http://weather.uk.msn.com/monthly_averages.aspx

average low 5c, average high 8c, -1 is much worse than people think. Didn't get above -8 in Carlisle all day Wednesday last week I believe. Its a VERY cold december and this is the "warm few days break" the northwest of Europe get this month.

-1 in the middle of the night, not uncommon, not really different, -1 at midday, or -8 all day long, thats a completely different ball game. Almost everyone is saying this is the worst december for 30 years, maybe, it will be. That doesn't mean the world will fall apart, but its certainly making deliveries more difficult, which can make food stocks become an issue in area's of the uk.
 
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Anyone noticed that chavs dont panic buy ?

You never see them stocking up on 3 litre bottles of White Lightning or other turps based refreshments or stockpiling Benson & Hedges.

Follow their lead folks and don't panic buy.

Actually Chav's do panic, they started the panicking long ago, but in those long cold days and with the lack of self control the Chav population have, coupled with the uglyness of your average Chav mum of 5 and nothing else to do stuck inside in a blizzard........ binge drinking was born.

So they buy the same amount as your normal stocking up for bad weather person does, its just all booze, and they can't help but drink it all straight away.

Thats why 9 months after a very cold spell, you get a sudden rise in the chav population. ;)
 
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