Punishment for cyclists?

except most people don't because whats the point?

it also takes a lot longer than 30 seconds.


just like if a cyclist clips a car and does say £100 in dent/paint damage, do you really think any motorist is going to report it and lose their no claims bonus (and still have to pay if it's under the excess) ?

Again tefal, i made the point that you can almost guarantee more damage is done by people whacking another car with their own car door and it goes unreported.

And i'll repeat once more that as with any other offence just like if someone random walks up and punches you, you take a description and report it to the police.

And chances are if they hit you and scratch your car there will be paint stuck to their bars. Evidence. So your word against there's can be backed up. Plus at the end of the day it'll be a crime reported. There might even be other witnesses.
 
I must admit I find the perceived general attitude towards cyclists ridiculous at times.

Just an hour or so ago I was wiped out in a cycle lane by a BMW driver who decided that indicating is a waste of time and he'd much rather make his left turn across the cycle lane now rather than wait for me to clear the junction.

Cue me in a heap on the ground, driver jumps out of the car, and starts trying to tell me how he should claim for the cost of his (now broken) wing mirror off me :rolleyes:

Luckily I was fine, few minor cuts, bike in worse shape than me but nothing that's not relatively easily repairable.

I know that's not really completely on-topic for this thread, I just wanted to vent a bit and this seemed as good a place as any :o
 
Again tefal, i made the point that you can almost guarantee more damage is done by people whacking another car with their own car door and it goes unreported.

so as long as someone does more damage in a different way (which can still be caught as car parks often have cctv) it's fine for others to do so without even taking steps to mitigate the problem?
 
I must admit I find the perceived general attitude towards cyclists ridiculous at times.

Just an hour or so ago I was wiped out in a cycle lane by a BMW driver who decided that indicating is a waste of time and he'd much rather make his left turn across the cycle lane now rather than wait for me to clear the junction.

Cue me in a heap on the ground, driver jumps out of the car, and starts trying to tell me how he should claim for the cost of his (now broken) wing mirror off me :rolleyes:

Luckily I was fine, few minor cuts, bike in worse shape than me but nothing that's not relatively easily repairable.

I know that's not really completely on-topic for this thread, I just wanted to vent a bit and this seemed as good a place as any :o

well if what you say is true and you were in the right you at least can claim off his insurance for your damage bike.
 
so as long as someone does more damage in a different way (which can still be caught as car parks often have cctv) it's fine for others to do so without even taking steps to mitigate the problem?
You're neglecting the other points i made in my post there...

The steps are unreasonable to the scale of the problem is what I'm saying!

Address my punching issue. Someone walks up and punches you, floors you, walks away. What do you do? Demand all humans carry ID plates so the individual can be traced that way?

This all over the country every night when idiots go out and get too drunk. A more widespread problem than those evil malicious cyclists who run over old women and ram into cars!

You tackle the most important issues first. And people with dented cars or a few bruises off cyclists is not a reason to demand every single one of them carry ID and pass a test!
 
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well if what you say is true and you were in the right you at least can claim off his insurance for your damage bike.

Indeed, not worried about the insurance side of things as he's got no comeback based on the situation/witnesses, just more frustrated it happened in the first place and of his reaction.

All he had to do was look and then wait maybe 2 seconds or so for me to fully clear the junction. Indicating in advance would have been a bonus as well.
 
Indeed, not worried about the insurance side of things as he's got no comeback based on the situation/witnesses, just more frustrated it happened in the first place and of his reaction.

All he had to do was look and then wait maybe 2 seconds or so for me to fully clear the junction. Indicating in advance would have been a bonus as well.

Hey, as a BMW driver when I first got the car I was amazed indicators came as standard, every other one i'd seen seemed to take them as optional extras.

Also, glad you're ok! Shame about the bike but it's always an excuse to get some upgrades in there!
 
But the steps are unreasonable to the scale of the problem is what i'm saying!

Address my punching issue. Someone walks up and punches you, floors you, walks away. What do you do? Demand all humans carry ID plates so the individual can be traced that way?

This all over the country every night when idiots go out and get too drunk. A more widespread problem than those evil malicious cyclists who run over old women and ram into cars!

You tackle the most important issues first. And people with dented cars or a few bruises off cyclists is not a top priority!

Err police would most definitely identify the person before letting them go. They would go to the length of arresting them and doing associated paperwork.

Criminal behaviour is different from accidents. I don't expect criminals to identify themselves to their victims even if everyone carried ID cards.

Terrible analogy.
 
Err police would most definitely identify the person before letting them go. They would go to the length of arresting them and doing associated paperwork.

Criminal behaviour is different from accidents. I don't expect criminals to identify themselves to their victims even if everyone carried ID cards.

Terrible analogy.

How the hell is it terrible? The police would have to have a complaint made first, would have to somehow ID the person, probably from wait for it...a description. Would then have to find said person and arrest them.

Leaving the scene of an accident without exchanging details is a crime.
 
I must admit I find the perceived general attitude towards cyclists ridiculous at times.

Just an hour or so ago I was wiped out in a cycle lane by a BMW driver who decided that indicating is a waste of time and he'd much rather make his left turn across the cycle lane now rather than wait for me to clear the junction.

Cue me in a heap on the ground, driver jumps out of the car, and starts trying to tell me how he should claim for the cost of his (now broken) wing mirror off me :rolleyes:

Luckily I was fine, few minor cuts, bike in worse shape than me but nothing that's not relatively easily repairable.

I know that's not really completely on-topic for this thread, I just wanted to vent a bit and this seemed as good a place as any :o

tbh we've all similar stories
I had a woman in a merc a few weeks back, over took me then realized there was standing traffic ahead as well as oncoming traffic heading her way so pulls in front then stops dead, cue me hitting the side of her car, she then wants to claim off ME for the scratch on the side, never mind that I'm laying there bleeding!
luckily there where witnesses who saw what she had done and nothing came of it.
 
Cue me in a heap on the ground, driver jumps out of the car, and starts trying to tell me how he should claim for the cost of his (now broken) wing mirro
I know that's not really completely on-topic for this thread, I just wanted to vent a bit and this seemed as good a place as any :o

Don't undertake at junctions. Doesn't matter who is wrong really for you, seems like a crazy thing to do considering the number of people that don't signal.
 
To all the cyclists moaning about being injured by cars I have one thing to say. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

Right, think that just about sums up your opinion and attitude there...

If god forbid you ever got run over I hope nobody stands over you and remarks

'Stop whining, don't bring a spoon to a gunfight. Oh and get your intestines off my shoe'
 
Right, think that just about sums up your opinion and attitude there...

If god forbid you ever got run over I hope nobody stands over you and remarks

'Stop whining, don't bring a spoon to a gunfight. Oh and get your intestines off my shoe'

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Don't undertake at junctions. Doesn't matter who is wrong really for you, seems like a crazy thing to do considering the number of people that don't signal.

It's not undertaking if you're on a bike...

Suggest you go and read your highway code.

Specifically rule 182 'Do Not Cut In On Cyclists'
 
They absolutely should have insurance, there's plenty of scenarios where a cyclist could be responsible for an accident that results in costly damage to a car(s) and their injuries for the occupants. A cyclist jumping red lights and causing a car to swerve into another car/railing/whatever is a good example. How about a bike going down the side of your nice new car scratching the paintwork the whole way.

Insurance is required for car drivers because they can cause millions worth of damage they would never be able to pay off. If you require insurance for cyclists because they may cause a car to swerve then pedestrians would need insurance as well because they are entitled to use the road, it's not practical.
 
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There's been a few times where I've nearly hit cyclists cycling at dusk without any lights or reflective clothing. Of course with us being the motorist it's obviously our fault if we hit them even if their not visible :rolleyes:
 
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