Punishment for cyclists?

estebanrey said:
Doesn't make the cyclist who made it any less of a [word that rhymes with hat and starts with a 'tw'] though.
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true true...but its not as bad as the ones I've seen from the US. the 2nd amendment guys who go out to the park with a mp5 on their back hoping for confrontation with the police so they can video it.

This guy was cocky but he was kinda in the right :o that policeman should have been able to tell him what was going on. and it seems as though it was just a chance encounter rather than a planned thing by the cyclist.

but yes...the rhyming word is right
 
I see crap cyclists on the road and I see just as many crap drivers. I see people break the law in cars all the time and very, very rarely get pulled for it. The same, of course, is true of cyclists.

I can never take anyone seriously on this subject because they all get ridiculously overemotional discussing it and it's embarrassing. Grown adults should be able to discuss things objectively.
 
estebanrey said:
Like this idiot who thinks he can run red lights and use technicalities in the law to justify it. How smug do you have to be to film this and put it on Youtube?

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And the cyclist having a registration plate would have avoided the whole thing.

So by the cyclists rules/beliefs as listed at the end of the video me doing 150mph on the motorway is fine as long as no one else is impacted/harmed/killed?
 
There should be laws put in place that are specifically for cyclists. It's ridiculous that there aren't proper ones put in place.
 
TBH I think having to breath in all the car fumes is punishment enough.

Another option is we could just ban cars?
that way we would not have this whole car/bike issue!
 
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As a cyclist and car driver I'd be happy enough for rules broken on your bike to affect your driving licence. But to go with that you'd need proper education for drivers on how to overtake bikes and how to handle them on roundabouts etc, while increasing punishments for endangering cyclists.
 
Why don't we try a simple one?

How many people are killed by cars per year per 100,000 cars in the UK?

How many people are by bikes killed per year per 100,000 cycles in the UK?

OR since a lot of people are complaining about the reckless criminal damage caused by so many cyclists, maybe one of these people could come up with a figure about the total value of damages caused by cyclists and compare it to cars.

I'll start.

Uncle and aunts house, £50,000 worth of damage caused by a car speeding, failing to negotiate a bend and crashing into their front room. Demolished the entire room, caused structural issues to the house and destroyed their garden.

This doesn't take into account the psychological issues that my aunt now suffers.

Driver slammed into the side of me after failing to stop for a junction. My car written off, loss of earnings and medical fees £12000.

Me in car, hit black ice, spun off and demolished a wall and wrote off my car £8000

Father hit by car whilst going around round-about on bike, bike destroyed, broken spine, broken ribs, two broken arms, broken collar bone, broken jaw, broken leg. Over £100,000 in medical bills paid for by drivers insurance.

Family members having damage caused by cyclists = £0

Damaged caused by family members that cycle = £0

Now I admit that my family is only one small sample of the UK population but with extended family counting for nigh on 100 people (grand parents are all irish catholics) I'd say it's a statistically significant sample non the less.
 
Dis86 said:
Why don't we try a simple one?

How many people are killed by cars per year per 100,000 cars in the UK?

How many people are by bikes killed per year per 100,000 cycles in the UK?
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How many lives saved have there been by motorised vehicles and how many saved by people on bikes?

Maybe Ambulances should be replaced with paramedics on tandems?
 
Driving yesterday in windy rain. Went round a turn at 25-30mph and there's a cyclist trotting along at 5mph weaving (obviously struggling with wind and rain) with no reflective clothing, with his overcoat covering the reflective rear plate and no front light.

Guy behind me luckily kept a safe braking distance and I spotted the cyclist early enough. It was very dark at 11pm.
 
Dis86 said:
Why don't we try a simple one?

How many people are killed by cars per year per 100,000 cars in the UK?

How many people are by bikes killed per year per 100,000 cycles in the UK?

OR since a lot of people are complaining about the reckless criminal damage caused by so many cyclists, maybe one of these people could come up with a figure about the total value of damages caused by cyclists and compare it to cars.

I'll start.

Uncle and aunts house, £50,000 worth of damage caused by a car speeding, failing to negotiate a bend and crashing into their front room. Demolished the entire room, caused structural issues to the house and destroyed their garden.

This doesn't take into account the psychological issues that my aunt now suffers.

Driver slammed into the side of me after failing to stop for a junction. My car written off, loss of earnings and medical fees £12000.

Me in car, hit black ice, spun off and demolished a wall and wrote off my car £8000

Father hit by car whilst going around round-about on bike, bike destroyed, broken spine, broken ribs, two broken arms, broken collar bone, broken jaw, broken leg. Over £100,000 in medical bills paid for by drivers insurance.

Family members having damage caused by cyclists = £0

Damaged caused by family members that cycle = £0

Now I admit that my family is only one small sample of the UK population but with extended family counting for nigh on 100 people (grand parents are all irish catholics) I'd say it's a statistically significant sample non the less.
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All of the car related incidents being identified and recorded of course..Whereas the vast majority of cycle incidents aren't. Im not saying the costs would be anywhere near the same, but thats not really the point.

My parents have a mirror outside their driveway to allow safe access onto the road. It regularly gets hit/punched/bag whacked by cyclists. I haven't the slightest clue why as its a huge safety thing for them too....but it happens regularly. The mirror is deformed and now facing the wrong way.

Sure its a small financial cost but its extremely annoying nonetheless. Not to mention dangerous.

Just one personal example from myself. Never had a crash, never caused any damage with my car. My sister has been rear ended a couple of times :o and my mum reversed into a low wall once....but yeah, cars are more expensive and larger items so of course they will both cost more and do more damage...That doesn't mean cyclists shouldn't be looked at too.
 
Gammawolf said:
It's probably worded a bit suggestively, I meant it more in terms of a self assessment type of scenario. But as you touched upon, there isn't a way to stop selfishness and how people think, or lack of. Its just the direction modern society has developed, people will push the limits until told not, instead of actually thinking and making a valid assessment or the particular situation.
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I'll give you a clue: Animals, pedestrians, horses and cyclists use the road by right* and motor vehicles use the roads by license. Therefore that cyclist puffing up the hill at five miles an hour has more right to be there than you do in your car. So shut up, put up with the minuscule delay and overtake safely.

Yes some cyclists are idiots, as are some car drivers. However there are far more idiotic car drivers than cyclists and the cyclists, hire riders and pedestrians are more vulnerable than those in a metal cage.


* Some exceptions exist such as motorways.
 
Maybe car users should be fined for making journeys under 1 mile alone, they should walk or use a bike. People being forced to cycle every now again may stop being so selfish and thoughtless about cyclists.

Cyclists who leave their brains at home and pay no attention to car drivers deserve at the very least a puncture, just to ruin their day a little bit.

To be honest a lot of motorists bug the hell out of me when I'm in the car and on the bike. Cyclists bug the hell out of me just as much.... it's just people, they're stupid.
 
Personally I get annoyed by and hate other drivers way more than cyclists :o but cyclists never get pulled up on their shenanigans
 
Este, that's not the question I proposed.

It's got nothing to do with the question I proposed.

Infact, why don't you go and ask that question to anyone who's had a family member hit and killed by a car or has died in an automotive accident?

'Does it console you that your loved ones corpse was taken away in an ambulance with an engine in it?'
 
ID/Registration plates, if caught/seen/recorded causing damage and cycling off then treat as if it was done in/with a car.

Whats the deal with providing docs/ID if requested when driving a car/van? Same should be applied to cyclists maybe then we wouldn't have issues such as the video above. Contact details were a reasonable request when the cyclist ran a red light, the cyclist was just being an antagonizing ****. Again this would be resolved with reg/ID plates.

Both that and a certain level of basic insurance should be mandatory, I know some cyclists with expensive egar will of course have insurance anyway. You also have the arguments that "is not aware of x amount of cycle accidents/instances" .. so?

I'm sure there are people that have 10+ years NCB, they're still forced to have insurance.
 
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