PUSHPULL Routine

dannysteel

dannysteel

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Anyone else on a Legs push pull split?


Current Push Routine - Main focus is to bring up my upper chest
Current Pull Routine - Need to add to back thickness.

Any constructive information will always be taken onboard.

Cheers all :)
 
With this post? Naaa
I am actually going to get a proper intro to the channel up and what its about and promote in various places, this was just a LPP post though :D
 
My typical deadlift is 180kg with good form (Can more 190/200 but form gets shakey, got vids) but it hammers me so much I think it would take away from my sessions, cause I do x2 leg days, I do Sumos on 1st leg and SLDL on 2nd, so posterior chain already takes a good workout.

I am trying to bring my upperback up more tbh, alt my pull days with more rowing (as seen) and a day dedicated to more lats, and on that day I do rackpulls to work less my hammies. I do think I'd be killing myself with deads on back day xD

mrthingyx said:
Whilst that is one way of looking at it all, I would honestly suggest sticking heavy deadlifts back in on your back day, and goof around with RDLs on your hamstring day.

If you want a comedy back, try heavy snatch pulls/deadlifts. :)
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Benefit to adding snatch grip dead?

I don't do tonnes of little isos? I alt facepulls with reverse flys for rear delts already.
And yeah, as said cause I variant between Row days and Lat days, I do undergrip rows for general back thickness :)
 
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I mean seems to be working what am doing for adding thickness?

edit: WOW pic came out much bigger than I thought haha
 
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haha You just naming some back exercises? xD

BennyC said:
Snatch grip RDL's, snatch pulls, heavy deads, pull ups, chinups, T-bar rows.

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I can't even Snatch fully but appreciate the benefit Snatch grip work has done on the occasions I've used it.

Some long overhead snatch grip holds will leave your traps hanging off too ;)
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Original post was questioning if anyone else was on a LPP routine, and I said I would take advice on board, most of the exercises named I already do but within my own split as they work for me?

The snatch grip stuff I questioned and yet to really have an answer on.
Competition prep thread? The 3 weeks out flexible dieting video? Casually a progression video.
Pic in a thread body building pics thread where everyone else posts pics of themselves, there was no kind of link to youtube within there? Thats not a promotion, thats getting into the threads?

Like I told Grudas': Not trying to promote YT channel with a post like this, it was literally a question of people being on LPP routines, and later questions could have been:
"How are you finding the progress of it"
"Do your DOMS get better quicker or worse with all the volume"
"Better for targeting individual muscles"

No need to apologise though, wasn't that brutal :D


mrthingyx said:
Apologies for being brutally cynical, but popping up with a thread about your competition prep, sticking a pic in the BodyBuilding pics thread, and then ignoring good suggestions for your back work does not do much to provide an alternative answer to Grudas' question. ;)
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Wouldn't you say deadlifts/sumos main muscle classed as working are the glutes, it's more just a shift of dynamic stabilizers and stabilizers that change...

Presume you're quoting from the video of the sumo deads? I actually know what the issues on those videos were... I was getting lumbar rounding because:
- I was very new to the movement at that stage
- The weight was to much for me to handle at the end of my deadlift session so core was already battered from that point
- Being new to the movement, I didn't fully understand the knee position/drive at that stage

"You also might have underestimated the knowledge and experience of those who read this forum" ?? I haven't claimed anyone wrong, or tried to shoot anyone down so I can't see how I am doing that?

icecold said:
That is wrong.

Even just thinking about the movement logically, the load is shifted medially to the adductors.

What you (and the author of that article) are experiencing are the effects of an inability to control your lumbar position with your core. This leads to lumbar rounding, which transfers the load to the muscles responsible for opposing this movement. This is exactly what happens in your videos. You also have weak legs/hips, leading to your hips shooting up first which further transfers load to your back.

Snatch grip deadlifts, if performed correctly, put massive stress on your scapula adductors, lats, and some bits of your shoulder external rotators.

I think you need to consider that people were discussing the aspects of your posts that they found interesting. You also might have underestimated the knowledge and experience of those who read this forum.
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Yeah, the video was legit for this:
He wrote an article which Syla5' posted, and in said article, he said, "Used to work quads" and in the video of the guy wrote the article, he said works inner hams.

And that's cool man, for me, always personally feel it more in my inner hamstings after sumo deads.


reiyushin said:
I dunno about the guy in general but that video showed very poor technique. He's overloaded the bar (in an attempt to show off?) which hinders his technique during a video talking about correct technique.

In the discussion about what hits your hammies more I'd say based on personal experience it's conventional (I sumo as much as I conventional)
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Yeah, I ironically felt onto his video.

haha, I am anything but bro too ^^,


Syla5 said:
Not sure if you are meaning me, or the guy in the actual article.

Sumo does work your quads more then your hamstrings, its part of the basic principles of the movement. Bottom line of it is that your reason to use Sumo to work your hamstrings more is misguided and your actually moving the emphasis away from the muscle you want to target by lifting sumo.


which i found from a random google sumo vs conventional deadlift. It was also a chuff article, however the point was just to show how easy it is for articles to be contradictory about the same thing.



I dont think that was quite what Icecold was getting at. He was merely just highlighting the fact that you have fortunatley lucked in to a forum with quite a font of knowledge that is just your usual BS Bropedia level of knowledge.

Reap the benefits from the knowledge here :)
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