Q6600 bottleneck?

Dale · 4 Mar 2010 at 22:27

Yeah, I'd say high 30's would annoy me (not that I own Crysis, but I do know how hardware intensive it is!)

The BC2 Beta went ofline 4ish days ago I think when the Beta closed down in prep for the full release.

Thanks for reporting back though

Dale · 4 Mar 2010 at 22:31

Doppleganger said:
Yeah I wanna see him elaborate on that. I'll do a bit more research before I decide on what to do. Good luck with the overclock! There's something deeply satisfying about getting to 3.6Ghz with a Q6600.

Indeed, exactly what I would like to see - Not sure I'd go that way yet though, I haven't done even nearly enough research.

Satisfying yes, however the fact that Prime last for less time that it takes to make a cuppa is always in the back of my mind - however, so far it hasn't affected my gaming or Windows 7 experience so I'll let it lie. If the OS starts crashing then I'll know its a real issue...

chipps101 · 4 Mar 2010 at 22:31

we have this thread here where we were doing single and multi threaded benchmarks at our overclocked speeds and our q6600's seemed to be doing quite well in the chart - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18108128

hopefully my bfbc2 will be delivered tomorrow and i can get some figures in fraps in it for you

i have never used fraps before and normally just go by how the game feels to me as to how to set it up, at first farcry 2 seemed a little jumpy at max settings 1920 x 1200 but a couple of forceware updates have changed that and all feels smooth with that also maxed out now.

Dale · 4 Mar 2010 at 22:39

Doppleganger said:
Btw, here's an idea of what I'm on about. It's DX10, Enthusiast Shaders, 2 x AA on the frost level so it's a pretty tough benchmark. See my minimum frame rates of 12.79!

Thanks for that Doppleganger, if I ever install Crysis (which I think I should, even if it is for benchmarking!!!) I'll run the same thing to compare.

chipps101 said:
we have this thread here where we were doing single and multi threaded benchmarks at our overclocked speeds and our q6600's seemed to be doing quite well in the chart - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18108128

hopefully my bfbc2 will be delivered tomorrow and i can get some figures in fraps in it for you

i have never used fraps before and normally just go by how the game feels to me as to how to set it up, at first farcry 2 seemed a little jumpy at max settings 1920 x 1200 but a couple of forceware updates have changed that and all feels smooth with that also maxed out now.

Thats good

- If the game feels fine to you then that is what counts - after all, it is only you playing on your PC - However, if we're problem solving or comparing frames at specific clocks you'll find Fraps is so widely used as a reliable, free FPS counter then it is a good idea to have it installed to chuck numbers around the board

JTrickle · 4 Mar 2010 at 22:41

Dale said:
...interesting that he says the Phenom2 is only 10% faster?

I was trying to say that a Phenom2 with a 10% clock speed increase (well, 11 in that case) would be 10% faster, as clock for clock Core2quad = Phenom2. At least in games.

Cant really be bothered running round gathering loads of sources. They all came up with the same results, though. Heres one chart.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Performance-Index,1407.html

crinkleshoes · 4 Mar 2010 at 22:43

I better not tell you that I could make 4.05GHz bench-stable then... lol (well, i'm talking 3d mark / game stable... maybe not prime etc, i never tried because of the temps)

Granted that's with wayyyy too many volts than you should ever put through an air-cooled chip and with about a dozen fans in various configurations including a 30cm desk fan pointed squarely at the side of the open case... lol!

Ran 3.78 for a while, but that got too hot for my liking aswell... 3.6 was just the sweet spot for 24/7 use

Only 1hr 18 mins til bfbc2 is unlocked

chipps101 · 4 Mar 2010 at 22:47

Doppleganger said:
There's something deeply satisfying about getting to 3.6Ghz with a Q6600.

i was deeply satisfied getting mine to 3.5 for the fritz and super pi benchmarking let alone 3.6

Dale · 4 Mar 2010 at 23:18

crinkleshoes said:
I better not tell you that I could make 4.05GHz bench-stable then... lol (well, i'm talking 3d mark / game stable... maybe not prime etc, i never tried because of the temps)

Granted that's with wayyyy too many volts than you should ever put through an air-cooled chip and with about a dozen fans in various configurations including a 30cm desk fan pointed squarely at the side of the open case... lol!

Ran 3.78 for a while, but that got too hot for my liking aswell... 3.6 was just the sweet spot for 24/7 use

Only 1hr 18 mins til bfbc2 is unlocked

Oi you! Be quiet! 3.6 is plenty before I actually melt the die at 90+ degrees! lol

...oh, and I'm clock watching as we speak re: BC2!

chipps101 said:
i was deeply satisfied getting mine to 3.5 for the fritz and super pi benchmarking let alone 3.6

I ran mine at 3.5 since I got it, and all in all, pretty happy with the result (2.4 up to 3.5 on minimal air cooling, can't be disgruntled with that at all)

The only thing I was a touch irritated at was the performance increase (or lack of) when I bought my 5970. As we've covered above, the only way I think we're going to get full use out of that card is with a mobo / CPU upgrade.

crinkleshoes · 4 Mar 2010 at 23:31

29 minutes and counting...

Btw... another note... done much to that skyline in your sig?

crinkleshoes · 4 Mar 2010 at 23:56

4 minutes.... lol

what's your steam name bud?

Dale · 5 Mar 2010 at 00:08

Headshot_Harry

crinkleshoes · 5 Mar 2010 at 00:11

Can't find ya

Have added you to MSN

Dale · 5 Mar 2010 at 00:13

Christ, I've not logged into that for years! lol

Are you "Crinkleshoes"? I'll try adding you...

**Edit: I did just get a weird Steam message saying that something was offline.....

crinkleshoes · 5 Mar 2010 at 00:14

lol... no i'm not mate... "tastyweatish"

crinkleshoes · 5 Mar 2010 at 00:18

steam is evil

Dale · 5 Mar 2010 at 00:25

Tell me about it. Decrypting.......... FFS! GRR

crinkleshoes · 5 Mar 2010 at 01:27

lol... yeah, took nearly half an hour to get in to the game heh... worth it tho

Dale · 5 Mar 2010 at 11:21

Rubbish!

BC2 crashes when attempting to start a game (SinglePlayer, not attempted online yet):

ATIPMDAG.SYS FFFFF88004AD8250base at DateStamp 4B68F9C4 (or some rubbish like that!)

I've removed all instances of overclocking, reduced all settings in BC2 to default and no joy! FFS!!!

crinkleshoes said:
Btw... another note... done much to that skyline in your sig?

It did have a fair amount changed, sadly now sold, but I miss it so much! It was approx 520bhp, with a few bits carbon fibre here and there. Best car I've ever owned.

crinkleshoes · 5 Mar 2010 at 13:54

That sucks dude!

Uninstall / reinstall/download? and re-install drivers or put the new ones on.

That crash is an ATi system file, so could either be a driver issue or one of the files that runs the game.

It could have corrupted in pre-loading... so both are worth a go

Dale · 5 Mar 2010 at 15:19

Yeah, proper gutted - been testing for a while now, been driver cleaning, re-installing all morning (9.12, 10.2 and 10.3 beta)

9.12 worked ok, but not sure if those allow Crossfire?

10.3 also worked, but I have to disable Catalyst A.I from CCC - so still gutted

Next thing I have to try is remove BC2 altogether and re-download / re-install...