Q6600 mATX build
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Tell you what I'm rebuilding it this week, will get some extra shots then. At the moment Its in the garage and I CBA to go out there 
Re temps: Forgot I had speedstep turned on. So closest I can get to stock is 2.2Ghz @ 1.41V core. Looks like ambient in the case is around 25-30 degrees.
And here is the 3.0Ghz one I did last week, the ambient was much lower probably round 15-20 degrees and the voltage was at stock 1.275V
Re temps: Forgot I had speedstep turned on. So closest I can get to stock is 2.2Ghz @ 1.41V core. Looks like ambient in the case is around 25-30 degrees.
And here is the 3.0Ghz one I did last week, the ambient was much lower probably round 15-20 degrees and the voltage was at stock 1.275V
Well got the Asus P5K-VM yesterday and to say I am dissapointed would be an understatement.
To summarise, I had the Gigabyte G33M-S2 in there, which was able to reach 3.2Ghz at 1.41V but lacks a 1:1 memory multi, so I had read that the Asus was able to reach 500Mhz FSB and had the 1:1 memory ratio. And though that I'd give it a shot as I was putting a new PSU in anyway.
To start with the Asus initially booted up with the 0304 bios, but the CPU speed was showing something ridiculous like 12.78Ghz
and the machine shut itself down because the cpu was overheating.
CPU compatability I thought, so I took it apart, popped in a E6420 and booted up and flashed the bios to 0401, I must say the bios flashing tools are fantastic on the Asus boards, so easy to copy the bios to a USB stick, press ALT+F2 or go into the flash tool in the bios and works a treat. No need for hunting around for a floppy
Anyway, once I had done this and popped the Q6600 back in there I got into Windows at stock, rebooted and set it to 355 FSB, locking the PCie, upping the CPU voltage to 1.41, memory voltage to 2.1V and memory multi to the lowest setting giving 700ish Mhz on the RAM.
Couldn't get it to get through 1 minute of Prime95 without two cores failing almost instantaneously
Wouldn't run FAH on the box without it rebooting.
Heat was fine, no real change from the Gigabyte.
Tried upping the Vcore to 1.45, tried with 2 DIMMS instead of 4, tried quite a few things but no dice. It was 3AM by this time and I was falling asleep at the keyboard.
I should have a pair of 8500+ memory coming tonight so I'll try some more combinations, but I must say I am a bit dissapointed, its not as if I am a big Gigabyte fan, I've only been exposed to two Gigabyte boards the 965_DS3 and the G33M in the last month and that was the first time I had used one.
But the bios on the Gigabyte boards is much better than this Asus, in terms of tweakability I find. For me the logic of the bios makes more sense and is easier to use. But thats a small point.
If I can't get this Asus to post and test at the equivalent speeds as the G33M then back in the box it goes.
On the flip side I got a chance to test the 500W Silverstone ST50EF-Plus-SC super silent, 80 PLUS, short cable v.1 ROHS PSU which although it has a lot of connectors has shorter cables for mATX cases all wrapped up neatly.
Nice PSU, inspired me to tidy up the rest of the case cabling and airflow now is as good as its going to get I feel.
OK so final summary and pics to follow tonight, my gut feeling is that I'll switch back to the G33M, with the new PSU and 8500+ memory and the Asus will go into a non-overclocked E6420 Sugo build that I have lined up.
To summarise, I had the Gigabyte G33M-S2 in there, which was able to reach 3.2Ghz at 1.41V but lacks a 1:1 memory multi, so I had read that the Asus was able to reach 500Mhz FSB and had the 1:1 memory ratio. And though that I'd give it a shot as I was putting a new PSU in anyway.
To start with the Asus initially booted up with the 0304 bios, but the CPU speed was showing something ridiculous like 12.78Ghz
and the machine shut itself down because the cpu was overheating.CPU compatability I thought, so I took it apart, popped in a E6420 and booted up and flashed the bios to 0401, I must say the bios flashing tools are fantastic on the Asus boards, so easy to copy the bios to a USB stick, press ALT+F2 or go into the flash tool in the bios and works a treat. No need for hunting around for a floppy
Anyway, once I had done this and popped the Q6600 back in there I got into Windows at stock, rebooted and set it to 355 FSB, locking the PCie, upping the CPU voltage to 1.41, memory voltage to 2.1V and memory multi to the lowest setting giving 700ish Mhz on the RAM.
Couldn't get it to get through 1 minute of Prime95 without two cores failing almost instantaneously
Wouldn't run FAH on the box without it rebooting.
Heat was fine, no real change from the Gigabyte.
Tried upping the Vcore to 1.45, tried with 2 DIMMS instead of 4, tried quite a few things but no dice. It was 3AM by this time and I was falling asleep at the keyboard.
I should have a pair of 8500+ memory coming tonight so I'll try some more combinations, but I must say I am a bit dissapointed, its not as if I am a big Gigabyte fan, I've only been exposed to two Gigabyte boards the 965_DS3 and the G33M in the last month and that was the first time I had used one.
But the bios on the Gigabyte boards is much better than this Asus, in terms of tweakability I find. For me the logic of the bios makes more sense and is easier to use. But thats a small point.
If I can't get this Asus to post and test at the equivalent speeds as the G33M then back in the box it goes.
On the flip side I got a chance to test the 500W Silverstone ST50EF-Plus-SC super silent, 80 PLUS, short cable v.1 ROHS PSU which although it has a lot of connectors has shorter cables for mATX cases all wrapped up neatly.
Nice PSU, inspired me to tidy up the rest of the case cabling and airflow now is as good as its going to get I feel.
OK so final summary and pics to follow tonight, my gut feeling is that I'll switch back to the G33M, with the new PSU and 8500+ memory and the Asus will go into a non-overclocked E6420 Sugo build that I have lined up.
i cant say that im terribly impressed with gigabyte mobos either. my good friend Naffa has had 2 now and had quite a few problems afaik.
and i got one for my dad to go with a Pentium D and i think its a shocking board. the 4 pin fan connector doesnt seem to work (possibly my fault, not sure), temp sensors are **** and you can only change the voltage if you are overclocking from within windows. there is no voltage change option in the bios so you up the FSB and then it wont load cos too little volts. its ridiculous.
and i got one for my dad to go with a Pentium D and i think its a shocking board. the 4 pin fan connector doesnt seem to work (possibly my fault, not sure), temp sensors are **** and you can only change the voltage if you are overclocking from within windows. there is no voltage change option in the bios so you up the FSB and then it wont load cos too little volts. its ridiculous.
Which one did you get? The 965_DS3 and the G33 both have pretty good voltage control.
Maybe its just luck of the draw, I've had Asus before on AMD systems and haven't had any issues. And generally ASUS is a quality brand.
I guess every make has its lemons. And other peoples mileage may vary. It was pretty frustrating tho.
Maybe its just luck of the draw, I've had Asus before on AMD systems and haven't had any issues. And generally ASUS is a quality brand.
I guess every make has its lemons. And other peoples mileage may vary. It was pretty frustrating tho.
Pulse said:i would still like some shots of the case and internals just to see how crammed it is and what its like.
As requested, this is with the Asus in, I've since swapped back to the G33 but I just unplugged the cables, slid the mobo tray out, replaced the mobo/cpu/cooler and slid it back in again, plugging in the cables without moving any. So it looks the same
Side view:
Top down view:
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67500 rpm? shows how hot them quads areBiffa said:
(for anyone who doesnt know how to detect sarcasm, im joking, i know its just a glitch).Sorry to bother you Biffa but do you think I could house a Q6600 in a sugo01 and manage an overclock of 3-3.2ghz safely?
If so, what motherboard and cooler do you recommend - plus what minimun size psu will I need with 1 h/drive, dvdrw and x1900xt (may go for better video card in future).
Many thanks and appreciate your advice.
If so, what motherboard and cooler do you recommend - plus what minimun size psu will I need with 1 h/drive, dvdrw and x1900xt (may go for better video card in future).
Many thanks and appreciate your advice.
cant wait to get my matx build done , getting components but it will be a week or two before i have everything , does anyone have a lian-li v300 ?? i reckon i will get this case seems fairly roomy for a matx style , nice overclock biffa i bought a E6600 off the MM so going to clock that abit but only with the stock cooler .
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Biffa, I just ordered the Zalman 7500 cooler to go with the same board, do you know if it'll fit?
Should do Mang0, The 7500 is more dependant on the size of the case than anything as I think it overhangs the mATX motherboard by a few mm. If you look on the first page, the picture of the old kit I took out had a 7500 on it.
I think it may not fit in the SG01, apparantly it overhangs the board enough to make it impossible to put the case back on.
You can get around this, either by filing the heatsink down slightly or by cutting a small space for it in the case, i'd recommend filing myself.
I don't think the SG03, V300, or X-QPack have this issue though.
You can get around this, either by filing the heatsink down slightly or by cutting a small space for it in the case, i'd recommend filing myself.
I don't think the SG03, V300, or X-QPack have this issue though.
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Hey Biffa
What sort of settings are you using to get such high FSB with 6400 RAM? Your pics shows 355, I can't get above 285 on my rig!!
I'm beginning to regret buying this as I'm not impressed with the board at all. The lack of memory dividers is beginning to annoy me. I should've went with the Asus...
What sort of settings are you using to get such high FSB with 6400 RAM? Your pics shows 355, I can't get above 285 on my rig!!
I'm beginning to regret buying this as I'm not impressed with the board at all. The lack of memory dividers is beginning to annoy me. I should've went with the Asus...
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I think it may not fit in the SG01, apparantly it overhangs the board enough to make it impossible to put the case back on.
You can get around this, either by filing the heatsink down slightly or by cutting a small space for it in the case, i'd recommend filing myself.
I don't think the SG03, V300, or X-QPack have this issue though.
Do you really need to butcher the cooler?
i'm considering the quad and sugo, but think it would need the zalman i have already to cool it. I've got a silverstone nitrogen in there at the moment which is fanless (relies on the PSU fan)