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Quad Core, any point ?

Err that would hardly do, my choice is between the 2 CPU's I asked about, I have an 8400 at the moment, I was hoping to upgrade and move this one to a second machine.

Errrr...;) You don't need either of those 2 CPU's for your level of usage. Which is why i suggested saving your money and just grabbing a 7200.

Really, whats the point buying a CPU that you dont need?

If you enjoy throwing your money away then i'll have some?
 
"With a dual core Intel Core 2 Duo now you can surf the web AND listen to music AT THE SAME TIME".

People take Purple Shirt store adverts far too literally. There's very little a quad core can do that a dual core can't. 4 cores are only really needed for encoding or other heavy duty tasks. I'll stick with speccing the E2160 until a similarly priced quad appears.:p
 
Quad core user considering going back to dual core here. This Xeon doesn't clock for &%$£. Or I just suck at overclocking. I really can't be bothered messing around with GTL this, VTT that. Either way, an E8400 is sounding very tempting since I do nothing that actually uses four cores.
 
an E8400 is sounding very tempting since I do nothing that actually uses four cores.

Windows itself will use any cores available. So unless you set affinitiy in Windows for the OS itself, it is using 2 cores in a dual core CPU. Whether or not you actually stress the computer to be worthwhile of quad core...
 
to be honest i think windows is rubbish at distrubuting hte load. The ones it distrubutes are taking up such minimal ammounts of CPU power it might as well not be doing it at all =/. I am going to wait for the E8600 to come before i upgrade.
 
Windows itself will use any cores available. So unless you set affinitiy in Windows for the OS itself, it is using 2 cores in a dual core CPU. Whether or not you actually stress the computer to be worthwhile of quad core...

Yeah I know that, but meh. I just want 4ghz, it's like a lovely number in the heavens that I can climb up to and embrace. Or something. Regardless, my Xeon is going nowhere in this board, can't even get it stable above stock.
 
Well I am sat here with my Athlon 2600 XP and a whole 1Gb ram. Money is ready to spend on a new system soon before the guinness takes a chunk out of it. :D
 
Accept the E4800 will still have a few more fps in games(not worth talking about but still) due to its higher clock speed that "most" quads cant match due to heat.
 
But wait, the quad is more responsive. :rolleyes: :D

Yeah man, the E8400 oc'ed @ 4GHz+. Great price point, blistering performance. Do it! :)

Except that in a weeks time the e8500 will only be £10 more than the e8400 and will be at the current e8400 price so no point buying one over the e8500.
 
Went from dual (E6300) to quad (Q6600). The quad gives me twice as many Folding@Home points, but that's pretty much the only difference. I multitask quite a lot, but for 99% of the stuff I do the quad is no faster than the dual.
 
Buy what you can afford my friend !

Between my quad & my amd 4850e for everyday usage there is no difference, hell looking at vista installation times, the 4850e is much faster then my Q6600 (i think thats something to do with the integrated memory controller on their processors & the 780g chipset is proven to be a winner).

If your going to Overclock or Video/Audio Encode then go for a Quad, where all cores will be utilised.

Otherwise for gaming & everyday usage = Dual Core.

PS. There is nothing wrong with people having something different..... Attacking like a pack of Wolves. :p
 
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If this thread could be bottled, we could fertilize the sahara.


It's handy for multitaskin (and as mentioned, rendering, ripping etc), that's all. Windows is hopeless at managing multiple processes, so having an idle CPU to drop new processes on is, a benefit, to it.
(my beloved linux is normally much better, but when it gets it wrong, it gets it WRONG).

An example of quad improvements would be seen in the way your system runs while unpacking a large rar and some other hefty task.

It's NOT anything to get excited about though, and totally totally pointless if flat out speed is your goal (as has been said, a dual will do better in this.....and I wish I had one).

BTW, the "quicker login" thing, is quite simply the only scenario where 4 cores is a massive help over 2.....because during that time there are DOZENS of processes being launched, reg mods being made and repeatedly read, it's the busiest time of the computer's working day. Not in the least representative of what happens once it's finished logging in.


Quads are neither the proverbial canine gonads, nor a complete bottle of snake oil, but, as a quad owner, I'd say their more snake oil than not, until we see some software that threads well, or an OS/mobo arch' which can distribute load among cores.


My dual box is zingier than my quad, but that's cos AMD are zingier than intel, single and dual intels are just the same......hard, if not impossible to define....it's like there's a moment where the machine is distracted or something when you go to launch stuff, I really cannot put it a better way. Only seems to be launching stuff that it happens with, once stuff's happening there's no problem at all.
 
Yeah I know that, but meh. I just want 4ghz, it's like a lovely number in the heavens that I can climb up to and embrace. Or something. Regardless, my Xeon is going nowhere in this board, can't even get it stable above stock.

5 ghz sound even nicer with e8600 but it might it be not easy to get it up there
 
Windows itself will use any cores available. So unless you set affinitiy in Windows for the OS itself, it is using 2 cores in a dual core CPU. Whether or not you actually stress the computer to be worthwhile of quad core...

TBH windows is rubbish at using more than 2 cores.

When I start up my rig and soon as I hit windows desktop open up coretemp/task manager cores 0,1 are getting hammered loading up all the login stuff/taskbar etc, while cores 2,3 sit there at about 0-4% usage.
 
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Do who needs quads... like someone said a few months ago............

[QUAOTE=Duff-Man;11230540]True multi-core programming, in games at least, is a good few years away yet.

I will point out that writing a good multi-threaded code is far more complicated than writing a program on a single thread, and games are already pretty complex programs as it is. On a more practical level, there are communication costs to consider. Transferring data between different threads can introduce heavy latencies, and so it is often the case that you will actually lose performance by spreading an application over two or more CPUs. For the immediate future, you will see only fairly self-contained modules farmed out to other cores (like sound or perhaps physics), with the main game-logic all residing on one core.

Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that it will take a major revision in programming languages to allow a realistic path to implementing general applications (and games specifically) which run automatically on several cores. This is a bit of bummer for us gamers, since the number of cores on a CPU will have doubled many times before then.

Yes, you may see games farming out small portions to increasing numbers of CPU cores, but the majority of game logic will continue to reside on a single CPU. The only games which will realistically see good multi-core support are large-scale strategy games, where you have thousands of fairly independent entities each performing instructions based on their local environment.

Of course, a quad core CPU is always going to be better than a dual, clock for clock, but pound-for-pound I still say dual is the way to go for gaming - particularly if you're not interested in RTSs.[/QUOTE]
 
I'll let the maker's of supreme commander know straight away as that game runs a lot better on a quad then it does on a dual. Multi threaded games are not that far of at all and although i don't expect them to be the majority anytime soon some of the biggest game's coming will make use of multiple cores. End of the day this whole discussion comes down to what people are happier with if people like me feel they get a little more response out of a quad does it really matter that much that it's worth attacking people over no it doesn't and it's a bit pathetic really.
 
There isnt going to be a definitive answer to this

Different people percieve the usability of a computer (not necessarily a pc - which is becoming more generic to Windows) in substantially different ways

A trader who gets a 1/2 second delay when recieving an email thinks that is too much, but for someone else that might (probably would) be inconsequential

Probably just as many people coming down on one side of the fence as the other even if there arent many programs that can actually use multi-core / multi-cpu's effectively
 
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