I cannot get my system IBT stable at 3.6GHz and the voltage required to get it stable brings my processor to 80 degrees!!!
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Quad or Dual?
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I cannot get my system IBT stable at 3.6GHz and the voltage required to get it stable brings my processor to 80 degrees!!!
The difference was noticeable in Crysis (+warhead) and Farcry2, was able to turn the graphics up a little bit.
ProEngineer Wildfire3, Cinema4D, ImageStudio (redering times).
I have a manufacturing grade model of a petrol chain saw in ProEngineer, when manipulating the view on the Q6600 a slight lag was noticeable, on the Q9550 there isnt. When set to wireframe view the Q6600 buckeld and would only give around 15-20fps, the Q9550 is not quite smooth but is much nicer to look at. You would have to be blind not to notice the difference.
(CPU was the only thing to change)
what clock speed?
The Q6600 runs at 2.4ghz and the Q9550 runs at 2.83ghz.
Running stock is not a fair comparison.
Fact is a mild overclock on a Q6600 at say 3.2ghz would have saved yourself the pointless cost of buying a Q9550.
You would have a faster PC for no cost
Even a 3.2ghz Q6600 is on par speed wise with a stock Q9650 running at stock.
Agree 100%
Fact is there is a 200mhz gain over clock speed over the yorkfield and Kentsfield CPU's.
A 3ghz Q9650 is the same speed as a 3.2ghz Q6600
All Q6600's G0's will do 3.6ghz with ease.
Pointless upgrade
After reading everybody's comments, I am still selling the other components not being used.
But I will give the Q6600 one more go.
So 1st off clean off and reapply the thermal paste.
No wonder it was hitting 80 Degrees.
Then I though to reapply the thermal paste to the NB and the 4in1 cooler...
So now to APPLY THE THERMAL PASTE!
*looks around*
Tada!
*Squeeze*... *Squeeze*
"Oh ****.... I have no thermal paste..."
So I'll need to get some ASAP!
Either some ArcticSilver5 Or This?
any suggestions?
(Might try lapping the cpu while I'm at it.)
But I will give the Q6600 one more go.
So 1st off clean off and reapply the thermal paste.
No wonder it was hitting 80 Degrees.
Then I though to reapply the thermal paste to the NB and the 4in1 cooler...
So now to APPLY THE THERMAL PASTE!
*looks around*
Tada!
*Squeeze*... *Squeeze*
"Oh ****.... I have no thermal paste..."
So I'll need to get some ASAP!
Either some ArcticSilver5 Or This?
any suggestions?
(Might try lapping the cpu while I'm at it.)
"Oh ****.... I have no thermal paste..."
So I'll need to get some ASAP!
Either some ArcticSilver5 Or This?
any suggestions?
(Might try lapping the cpu while I'm at it.)
MX-2.
The AS5 been the best untill the MX-2 came around.
Dunno why ppl will stick pick the AS5 as at least for me, in about 20 builds I've tested, the MX-2 would be 2-5c better in every case.
Even after changing the old AS5s (which is known to have long 'curing' time) the MX-2 will still be better straight out of the box.
Can definitely recommend it, and it will last you for a quite few builds as well : ).
Agree 100%
Fact is there is a 200mhz gain over clock speed over the yorkfield and Kentsfield CPU's.
A 3ghz Q9650 is the same speed as a 3.2ghz Q6600
All Q6600's G0's will do 3.6ghz with ease.
Pointless upgrade
You dont know the circumstances of the upgrade - would you say no if it was a free upgrade ?
+the mobo I was using would not overclock.
The difference was very noticeable.
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If you are happy thats fine.
But suggesting to the OP to upgrade from a Q6600 to a Q9550 or Q9650 is not good advice.
Thats because you are running stock.
Fact is everyone with a Q6600 at 3.4ghz+ has a faster PC than yourself.
If it won't overclock at all why in the hell would you use Megahalems with push/pull ?? For extra free noise?
I somehow can't believe you couldn't get 3.2+ out of it. Especially with this cooler.
And regarding the 'free upgrade' comment - that was a silly one.
If the OP was getting it for free he wouldn't be asking for it ??
I somehow can't believe you couldn't get 3.2+ out of it. Especially with this cooler.
And regarding the 'free upgrade' comment - that was a silly one.
If the OP was getting it for free he wouldn't be asking for it ??
I have not suggested to OP that he buys a Q9550, I was making a comment after this -
I suppose I should have quoted to make it clearer - but as someone who has done it and knows that there is a difference I thought its worth commenting.
And im not the only one who knows that -
Im not running at stock, I have it at 3.2GHz now after 10 mins overclocking. Have not tried going any further yet but plan to.
If you read back through the thread you will see that it has been a simple case of conversation divulging and I have not told OP to buy anything.
Haha, your posts have been quite entertaining today, I feel like you should re-read these words from your good self earlier today :
Just to help you out again so you can understand whats going on -
I HAD a Q6600 with a MSI P7N SLI Platinum, which is where the
came into play. Note the word WAS.
I then got (FREE) a Q9550, the difference was noticeable as the mobo wouldnt overclock so there was a 2.4GHz-2.83GHz jump. I had not mentioned anything of an overclock, although granted this is overclockers.co.uk
I then got a EVGA 750i SLI F T W (FREE) and could overclock, pushed the Q9550 to 3.2GHz after reading up on overclocking and my old cooler wasnt cutting it so I bought a Megahalems. Now everythings frosty.
I hope your no longer confused.
PS- my megahalems is no louder than my previous cooler (Zalman 9700NT)
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Calm down guys, I asked for people's opinions and help... and in the usual OCUK forum way that's exactly what I got! 
Well based on everyones input so far.
I ordered some more thermal paste and I'm going to try clocking this chip again. If I am unable to reach at least 3.4GHz IBT stable then I will be selling it on and with the money raised from that and the other components I have sitting here, I will get a new quad (Q9650 or Q9550).
I'll be sure to post the results in this thread after my paste comes and I can get stuck in.
Thanks for the recommendation
@[timko]
Looking forward to pushing this memory a bit. If I reach 900MHz (1800MHz) I will try for the cell shock latencies 8-7-6-21
Click meeee!Bit too optimistic? I'll whack the ram up to 2.0Volts and see what happens eh?
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**OCZ EVP (Extended Voltage Protection)
is a feature that allows performance enthusiasts to use a VDIMM of 2.0V
without invalidating their OCZ Lifetime Warranty.
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You can probably put even 2.2 through those sticks and nothing will happen to them ( OCZ used to give 2.3v warranty on most of their stuff ).
Now not sure about the extreme edition sticks - if they're like gold series they will be quite rubbish and won't OC much but if they're like the titanium or platinum ones, you should have no problems whatsoever getting those clocks.
Not like you gonna need 900mhz anyways...
Also if you're fancy spending 240GBP on a CPU - I would considering stretching the budget by another 50-100 and get an i7 or phenom II platform.
The 775 stuff has silly prices on the second hand market so you could just as well sell your CPU+MOBO+RAM and get the whole new thing ; ).
I think you would notice more difference there than the Q6xxx > Q9xxx .
Other than that, I still don't think it's worth it : ).
Now not sure about the extreme edition sticks - if they're like gold series they will be quite rubbish and won't OC much but if they're like the titanium or platinum ones, you should have no problems whatsoever getting those clocks.
Not like you gonna need 900mhz anyways...
Also if you're fancy spending 240GBP on a CPU - I would considering stretching the budget by another 50-100 and get an i7 or phenom II platform.
The 775 stuff has silly prices on the second hand market so you could just as well sell your CPU+MOBO+RAM and get the whole new thing ; ).
I think you would notice more difference there than the Q6xxx > Q9xxx .
Other than that, I still don't think it's worth it : ).
Quad Core isn't necessary for gaming, you can still get a Dual Core system that does the job just as well, and people saying Quad Core is future proof is ridiculous, nothing is future proof at all. The fact is, a Dual Core processor will still be a good processor to have for another 2 years easily, they can still compete with the latest processors which shows a good sign that a Dual Core processor will last a good while.
As long as the processor can run the game, i don't see any reason to change to Quad Core or the latest technology, if your buying a new system, i still don't see a need to choose a Quad Core processor seeing as Dual Core processors are cheaper and still can execute tasks with no problem.
Quad Core for office based programs and Dual Core for gaming until it becomes 100% necessary.
As long as the processor can run the game, i don't see any reason to change to Quad Core or the latest technology, if your buying a new system, i still don't see a need to choose a Quad Core processor seeing as Dual Core processors are cheaper and still can execute tasks with no problem.
Quad Core for office based programs and Dual Core for gaming until it becomes 100% necessary.
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As you mention video encoding I would go with the Quad over the Dual these days. For gaming/word processing then there isn't much difference between a Dual and a Quad these days, however for gaming this could change in the future.