Qualification for completing two years of uni?

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My old Uni (Salford) used to offer 3 year HNDs, which with an extra year you could top up into an ordinary Degree. Honours required the Dissertation/Project.

Not sure if it works the other way round, methinks as they didn't offer it you at the time that it doesn't.

You should really have stuck it out. I came unglued at the end of second year and really really didn't want to go back. The Uni suggested I went for the placement year and resat some exams when I got back. The recession had just hit so that didn't work out as the student places were the first to get the axe, so I found myself a job for 12 months then made myself go back. Was aiming for a 2:2 and narrowly missed with a 3rd but I came out with some dignity and something on the CV. I might not have aced the exams, but the knowledge is still in there and is surprisingly useful sometimes!
 
Nearly all degrees in England are honours degrees. On most courses if you get an ordinary degree (ie. not honours) it basically means you only barely managed to pass, worse than a 3rd.

I understand the system is quite different in Scotland.
 
Psyk said:
Nearly all degrees in England are honours degrees. On most courses if you get an ordinary degree (ie. not honours) it basically means you only barely managed to pass, worse than a 3rd.

I understand the system is quite different in Scotland.
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This must be dependent entirely upon the institution and course then, At my university the grades are awarded according to overall marks following the formulae for weighting etc. These grades range upward from: Fail -> 3rd -> 2:2 -> 2:1 -> 1st.

The Honours (Hons) part is achieved if you undertake, complete & gain full approval for your dissertation from professional boards in your field.

edit: I am aware of the above format also being the practice adopted by several other universities that friends & relatives have completed degrees at.
 
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Isn't it something along the lines of:

1 year = HNC
2 years = HND
3 years = Bachelor's degree
3 years + dissertation/final project = Bachelor's degree with honours
 
trickyj said:
This must be dependent entirely upon the institution and course then, At my university the grades are awarded according to overall marks following the formulae for weighting etc. These grades range upward from: Fail -> 3rd -> 2:2 -> 2:1 -> 1st.
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A degree classification means it's with honours.

trickyj said:
The Honours (Hons) part is achieved if you undertake, complete & gain full approval for your dissertation from professional boards in your field.
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On the majority of courses a dissertation or project is required to pass, which makes it also a requirement of getting an honours degree.

I think at most universities it's very rare for someone to be given an ordinary degree. I know at Bristol it only happens right on the pass/fail border, and only when there's extenuating circumstances.

To be honest, it's a bit of an outdated archaic concept. It's pretty irrelevent now since pretty much all degrees are with honours. It used to mean you had undertaken some extra study above that of an ordinary degree, but since most courses are with honours right from the get go, it makes the whole distinction a bit pointless.

Just to re-iterate, this only applies to England and Wales.
 
as i understand it in england do you get to study one subject for the 3 years? or do you have to study a breadth of subjects that you have ZERO interest in and indeed might not be that good at (which is what you have to do in Scotland)
 
Psyk said:
Nearly all degrees in England are honours degrees. On most courses if you get an ordinary degree (ie. not honours) it basically means you only barely managed to pass, worse than a 3rd.

I understand the system is quite different in Scotland.
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That was the system at my University, I never did a dissertation yet I got an honours degree :)
 
mp3kla said:
So could you get a 2:1 with honours? Or does it have to be 1st with Honours?
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Mine is a 2.1 with honours but you can get a 3rd with honours I believe in most Universities in England. It is if you only achieve a pass that the degree will be without honours.
 
At my uni (Plymouth) you get the honours if you do a final year dissertation/project, which means pretty much everyone gets it. It doesn't matter if you get a first or a third it's the dissertation that matters. This according to a couple of my lecturers is the standard in England.
 
Surfer said:
as i understand it in england do you get to study one subject for the 3 years? or do you have to study a breadth of subjects that you have ZERO interest in and indeed might not be that good at (which is what you have to do in Scotland)
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Yeah you just do the one subject. Some courses allow you to do a few open units in other subjects, but for the most part you just stick to the one subject.

mp3kla said:
So could you get a 2:1 with honours? Or does it have to be 1st with Honours?
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If you have a classification it means it's with honours, whether it's a 1st or a 3rd.

Amp34 said:
At my uni (Plymouth) you get the honours if you do a final year dissertation/project, which means pretty much everyone gets it. It doesn't matter if you get a first or a third it's the dissertation that matters. This according to a couple of my lecturers is the standard in England.
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It's something that differs between unis. If I didn't do my final year project, I'd just fail. Wouldn't get anything at all. Maybe some unis will give you an ordinary degree if you don't do a dissertation/final year project, but I think most would just fail you.
 
Cheers for all the replies.. Haven't got round to phoning them yet though to find out for real..

Saytan said:
U.W.E give a DipHE for 2 years

i believe some places will do you a HND
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I thought it was something like that from what I researched, will find out for deffinate tomorrow! :)
 
@D.P. so I'm in middle of BSc Hons Psychotherapy and Counseling. 2nd year.
I'm 46 .. I was raped Feb 2021.
In the verge of loosing everything.

Does that make me a failure???

Wish I had not read your post. Been crying an hour. Think before you *** no, you think before you type and please read our rules regarding fully editing out swearing *** type
 
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Who knows lol
Just making a point that there are stories and reasons for everyone's circumstances.

Didn't realise there was a rule you could not reply to an old thread.
 
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