Quest 2 Virtual Desktop Performance Thread

Has anyone tried the update yet for Quest which allows you to set the bitrate much higher in Oculus debug tool when using the link cable? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=video&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiRvvvp8czsAhUTmVwKHcHFDTAQtwIwAHoECAUQAg&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Imz_2jkU2U&usg=AOvVaw07krw8As83qyuVXhKaZrFE

Does anyone know if this update has any impact on VD? The most I've managed to see is upto the 150mbps VR streaming bitrate.

I did previously use a cable for link when I had quest 1, I have routed a 15m usb 3.0 active extension cable from my PC through the wall/floor to downstairs to where I use the headset. The extension cable also had a power connector (headset end) which I connected up when playing and I used the quest 1 charging cable. Now the quest 2 charging cable is so short, it required me to have the USB 3.0 cable and the charging cable lifted off the floor if using the oculus 1m cable which is heavy and although it does work its too uncomfortable to use. I have tried 2 other non Oculus cables so far and none have worked with the extension. I'm still trying others but using VD for the time being - and may stay with it.

I'm currently working this weekend so don't have my full stats but I'll update asap:

GPU/CPU: 1080ti, 10600k at all core 5GHz
Router: Linksys Velop Whole Home Intelligent mesh (3 pack) SKU WHW0303-UK - which has 2.4GHz and 2x 5GHZ.
Network Setup: Velop router downstairs, connected to the 2nd velop mesh device by Cat 7 ethernet cable which is upstairs near my PC. 2nd velop connected to switch, switch connected to PC. I use my headset downstairs within 5m of the Velop router. I connect to the 5GHz network and the headset is the only device which does that.
VD Reported Speed: 866 Mbps
VD Streaming Settings: Quality - TBC, FPS - 72 (I currently don't use 90hz framerate in the hope that I can increase picture quality over framerate before maxing out my GPU), Bitrate - 138
VD Codec: Auto (tried both the others but couldn't notice a difference
Other Settings:
Desktop Latency: 15-20mbps
Game Latency: 50mbps - Asgard's Wrath max settings. VR graphics quality - High. Sliced encoding on. Extra latency mode on. Use optimal resolution off. Boost clock rates on.


Also just boosted mbps following the public test channel oculus pc app update and put oculus debug tool at 400mbps. No difference made to VD. Link runs very well though. I think VD struggled to run Asgards Wrath more than link struggled at max settings
 
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Unfortunately I can't get more than 390Mbps in Virtual Desktop in my lounge, and Virtual Desktop says streaming performance will be degraded, and on high detail levels it's jittery.
I think the only thing that'll work will be getting a wired router in my lounge, which is tricky as the internet connection goes to the attic.

I can get it to work reasonably reliably on lower detail streaming levels but that's not really making the most of the Quest 2's display, plus the compression is awful.

I get the full bandwidth next to my Router though and it works very well, but is kind of pointless with my Index right next to it, and not much room to move around. I might as well use my official link cable for Quest 2 as the quality and reliability are much better now.
 
Only just set it up yesterday. Using a BT Smart Hub 2 which is annoying as you can't split the 5ghz off. Luckily I had my old Smart Hub 1 kicking about so I turned off 5ghz on the SH2, plugged the SH1 in next to the PC, setup a new SSID (and turned off 5ghz). Now get 866 Mbps.
 
chroniclard said:
My PC is just too far from the router to get full throughput on 5ghz wifi so I have ordered some network cable and gear, going to run some external cat 6 cable outside the house around to the office.
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That's an interesting idea. I never considered running Cat 6 cable outside the house. Ironic as my cable internet connection runs up the outside of my house to the attic where my cable modem is located.
 
Ravenger said:
That's an interesting idea. I never considered running Cat 6 cable outside the house. Ironic as my cable internet connection runs up the outside of my house to the attic where my cable modem is located.
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Yeah I went up from the lounge where my router is, up into the attic and back into my office. I'm guessing though you would need a better cable for outside use. After trying wifi extenders etc, wired is the way :)
 
Ravenger said:
That's an interesting idea. I never considered running Cat 6 cable outside the house. Ironic as my cable internet connection runs up the outside of my house to the attic where my cable modem is located.
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Did it before in our old house and worked great. Two back boxes/face plates, load of external cable, though the drilling and clipping of cable is just a pain in brickwork!
 
Wouldn't need much drilling in my case - can come out under the eaves, and through existing holes or even through the air-brick. I've got easily accessible crawl-space under the house for routing cable. Biggest hassle is getting a ladder and attaching the cable. Something to consider anyway.
 
Hi all - ultra noobish question here so bear with me :o

What is the need for the router in this set up? To my incredibly simple mind, and it is verrrrry simple, you are just displaying a desktop to your Oculus. If you have, say, a motherboard with WiFi or a WiFi antenna, can you not broadcast the desktop from this? Why do you need a router?

In my intended set up, the router will inevitable be the other side of my house from my man cave, although I would intend on connecting my pc via an Ethernet port to the router. Can I not create a wireless network without a router?

I’m cringing at this post but I’m actually finding this quite hard to understand from a google so I’ll have to take looking like a moron.

Could I buy a second router to create a wireless (albeit not connected to the internet) network in the man cave? Is that the best solution?

:o :o :o
 
Nitefly said:
Hi all - ultra noobish question here so bear with me :o

What is the need for the router in this set up? To my incredibly simple mind, and it is verrrrry simple, you are just displaying a desktop to your Oculus. If you have, say, a motherboard with WiFi or a WiFi antenna, can you not broadcast the desktop from this? Why do you need a router?

In my intended set up, the router will inevitable be the other side of my house from my man cave, although I would intend on connecting my pc via an Ethernet port to the router. Can I not create a wireless network without a router?

I’m cringing at this post but I’m actually finding this quite hard to understand from a google so I’ll have to take looking like a moron.

Could I buy a second router to create a wireless (albeit not connected to the internet) network in the man cave? Is that the best solution?

:o :o :o
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The developer of Virtual Desktop says all the WiFi hotspots he has tested give noticeably worse performance than a dedicated router. You can add a router as an access point, you don't need to put a router on the other side of the house, the ethernet cable you would have connected to the PC you instead cable to a new additional router and then an extra ethernet cable to your PC from the new router to the PC. Yes the extra wireless connection would still be able to access the internet - the traffic would be "routed" by both routers, that's what routers do.

This setup gives the best performance, but of course you can try any other setup you want to try, nothing stopping you, the setup above is the one recommended by the Dev for best performance.

Vr oasis on YouTube has videos on how to set this all up if you are struggling with text
 
andybird123 said:
The developer of Virtual Desktop says all the WiFi hotspots he has tested give noticeably worse performance than a dedicated router. You can add a router as an access point, you don't need to put a router on the other side of the house, the ethernet cable you would have connected to the PC you instead cable to a new additional router and then an extra ethernet cable to your PC from the new router to the PC. Yes the extra wireless connection would still be able to access the internet - the traffic would be "routed" by both routers, that's what routers do.

This setup gives the best performance, but of course you can try any other setup you want to try, nothing stopping you, the setup above is the one recommended by the Dev for best performance.

Vr oasis on YouTube has videos on how to set this all up if you are struggling with text
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Many thanks for this, really appreciate your help.

To clarify my understanding, are you suggesting the following set-up would be optimum where the interwebz are coming in from the street to the front of the house (and the man-cave is at the back)?

Interwebz from the str33t
—>
‘Router one’ at the front of the house (in the usual way)
—>
Ethernet cable from ‘router-one’ to man-cave
—>
Ethernet cable plugs into ‘router-two’ in the man-cave
—>
Ethernet cable from ‘router-two’ into PC + oculus connected via WiFi to ‘router-two’

Is that right? A thousand thank yous for your patience :o

edit - at work so haven’t checked out the YouTube video, soz, I will do so later. I appreciate that I have jumped the gun with my question before I have exhausted all info you provided. Apologies.
 
Nitefly said:
Many thanks for this, really appreciate your help.

To clarify my understanding, are you suggesting the following set-up would be optimum where the interwebz are coming in from the street to the front of the house (and the man-cave is at the back)?

Interwebz from the str33t
—>
‘Router one’ at the front of the house (in the usual way)
—>
Ethernet cable from ‘router-one’ to man-cave
—>
Ethernet cable plugs into ‘router-two’ in the man-cave
—>
Ethernet cable from ‘router-two’ into PC + oculus connected via WiFi to ‘router-two’

Is that right? A thousand thank yous for your patience :o

edit - at work so haven’t checked out the YouTube video, soz, I will do so later. I appreciate that I have jumped the gun with my question before I have exhausted all info you provided. Apologies.
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Yes that's correct, for whatever you get as router-two you will just need follow the instructions on how to set it up as a wireless access point, rather than as the main internet access router

for example, when you first switch it on, connect it only to the PC via ethernet, most routers will have a webserver you connect to on the default IP address and that will guide you through the rest of the process e.g. which port to connect "router-one" to and so on
 
andybird123 said:
Yes that's correct, for whatever you get as router-two you will just need follow the instructions on how to set it up as a wireless access point, rather than as the main internet access router

for example, when you first switch it on, connect it only to the PC via ethernet, most routers will have a webserver you connect to on the default IP address and that will guide you through the rest of the process e.g. which port to connect "router-one" to and so on
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Super. Again, thanks for your time. It’s something which has a ‘simple’ answer but it’s hard to find it because of not being sure of the right keywords to search for tutorial content.
 
Nitefly said:
Super. Again, thanks for your time. It’s something which has a ‘simple’ answer but it’s hard to find it because of not being sure of the right keywords to search for tutorial content.
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It is never a problem asking questions here. There are some very helpful folk on this section of the forum.
 
Plugged in the Honor 3, setup, connecting at 1200mbps with 15 latency in the desktop and around 30-40 when I launched TWD, smooth as anything though its not exactly a fast paced game.

All default settings, I have not played around with any settings yet to optimise things. Is there anyway to fiddle with VD settings while in game?

Next up laying some cable so its all connected fully. :)
 
I've just ordered an Honor 3, fingers crossed it works better than my current router as a drop-in replacement. Even if it doesn't I can at least use it as an access point by running some cable to get it closer to the lounge.
 
The router arrived today, which is amazingly quick service. (I suppose they want their chinese spyware delivered promptly :rolleyes:). I'll give this a go tomorrow. Doubt it'll be any good as a drop-in replacement for my existing router, but I'll give that a go. If not I'll try setting it up in different positions around the house to see if I can get the signal any better without having to run cable all the way down to the lounge.
 
The Honor router gives worse signal than my existing router unfortunately. Again it's fine when using the Quest in the same room, but down in my lounge it's pretty poor. I'll keep it though as it looks like it'll be a good dedicated solution for Virtual Desktop when I get wiring down to the lounge.

The Quest connected fine at 1200mps though, so it should give better results than a standard 5ghz router.
 
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