Quest 3 owners etc

melmac · 31 Oct 2023 at 17:14

tyke_ said:
I've just tried a TP Link Tri band AXE 5400 6E router with my Quest 3, the latency in Virtual Desktop is about the same as my ISP issued Sky 5GHz router. That was with AV1 (10 bit)/150Mbps/Godlike. I think it was no faster because there's no congestion where i am on the 5GHz band, none of the neighbours are using 5GHz yet and I only have my Quest 3 on it. It's going back to Amazon.

You should really try H.264 at 400mbps on both Airlink and VD and see what your latency is like. And see do you prefer it over AV1.

EDIT: I think you should also try a lower bitrate when using AV1, like 175 or 150 even. See do you notice a difference. 200mbps might be pushing the limits of the decoder which is why there might not be much difference between the new router and the sky one.

ShiWarrior · 31 Oct 2023 at 17:34

tyke_ said:
I've just tried a TP Link Tri band AXE 5400 6E router with my Quest 3, the latency in Virtual Desktop is about the same as my ISP issued Sky 5GHz router. That was with AV1 (10 bit)/150Mbps/Godlike. I think it was no faster because there's no congestion where i am on the 5GHz band, none of the neighbours are using 5GHz yet and I only have my Quest 3 on it. It's going back to Amazon.

@Ravenger uses this one, I'm sure he could tell you what settings he uses and what connection speed he gets, as its helped him on his Pro

Ravenger · 31 Oct 2023 at 17:36

ShiWarrior said:
@Ravenger uses this one, I'm sure he could tell you what settings he uses and what connection speed he gets, as its helped him on his Pro

I just used 6E on the router which allowed me to switch to H264 in Airlink and up the bit-rate to 300-400.

I find Virtual Desktop works but doesn't allow the higher bitrates which give better quality on the Pro.

Ravenger · 31 Oct 2023 at 17:54

I find airlink quality is now good enough for the vast majority of games, plus I have the option of an official link cable if I do need max quality for seated sims.

Tykey · 31 Oct 2023 at 18:28

melmac said:
You should really try H.264 at 400mbps on both Airlink and VD and see what your latency is like. And see do you prefer it over AV1.

EDIT: I think you should also try a lower bitrate when using AV1, like 175 or 150 even. See do you notice a difference. 200mbps might be pushing the limits of the decoder which is why there might not be much difference between the new router and the sky one.

ShiWarrior said:
@Ravenger uses this one, I'm sure he could tell you what settings he uses and what connection speed he gets, as its helped him on his Pro

Yeh I should really try to test more things out but tbh it's all packed away now and ready for royal mail collection. Although I think i'm quite easy to please the image quality in Alyx was really great, i'm a happy bunny.

apatia77 · 31 Oct 2023 at 18:42

I am playing Lone Echo now and it's a really fun experinece in VR, but my legs hurt and the battery is empty so time to take a break

ScoobyDoo · 31 Oct 2023 at 18:45

Just tried my first 3d movie on VD with passthrough.
Wow what an experience, used a large living room wall for the screen and the 3d effect was superb.

Tykey · 31 Oct 2023 at 18:55

ScoobyDoo said:
Just tried my first 3d movie on VD with passthrough.
Wow what an experience, used a large living room wall for the screen and the 3d effect was superb.

That's on my to-do list, i've done similar but not in 3D, i bet it's pretty impressive.

Merlin5 · 31 Oct 2023 at 21:53

ScoobyDoo said:
Just tried my first 3d movie on VD with passthrough.
Wow what an experience, used a large living room wall for the screen and the 3d effect was superb.

Where would I find 3D movies to watch?

ShiWarrior · 31 Oct 2023 at 21:57

Merlin5 said:
Where would I find 3D movies to watch?

buy the BD and rip it yourself really

no talk of copyrighted material though

BoboWeb · 1 Nov 2023 at 08:11

Guys you can try the Avatar 2 3D Full-SBS trailer upscaled by me with Topaz AI from 3840x1920 to 7680x2160@24 h265@60mbit . The results are amazing on Quest 3 and its just little demonstration of what todays technologies are capable of ... I am tested and it works with SkyBox and Pigasus but i personally like it most played with 4XVR player in mixed reality mode .
If there is need - it the players you just set 3D Full SBS mode and aspect ratio 16:9 .
If you play it on PC version of SkyBox and VD you can passtrough the multichannel audio to your home theater audio systems too and get complete audio-video experience

I just can imagine what this could be watched at 8K OLED VR screen at upcoming VR sets next year ... lol :cool:

Please feel free to share your thoughts and experience !

Prophet999 · 1 Nov 2023 at 08:48

tyke_ said:
I've just been playing Alyx with AV1 @ 200Mbps Godlike resolution Q3 @ 72Hz and was getting around 45ms, same as my Sky router.

Tykey · 1 Nov 2023 at 09:05

BoboWeb said:
Guys you can try the Avatar 2 3D Full-SBS trailer upscaled by me with Topaz AI from 3840x1920 to 7680x2160@24 h265@60mbit . The results are amazing on Quest 3 and its just little demonstration of what todays technologies are capable of ... I am tested and it works with SkyBox and Pigasus but i personally like it most played with 4XVR player in mixed reality mode .
If there is need - it the players you just set 3D Full SBS mode and aspect ratio 16:9 .
If you play it on PC version of SkyBox and VD you can passtrough the multichannel audio to your home theater audio systems too and get complete audio-video experience I just can imagine what this could be watched at 8K OLED VR screen at upcoming VR sets next year ... lol
Please feel free to share your thoughts and experience !

Just watched it, impressive .

ShiWarrior said:
buy the BD and rip it yourself really

no talk of copyrighted material though

When u say BD do u mean Blu-ray disk? For example i've just found Avatar 2 for sale, it has Blu-ray or 3D options, i assume i'd need to buy the Blu-ray? And when u say rip it, sorry i don't know exactly what u mean? I gather it'd be converting it to some format or other, would that be changing it into 3D ready for the Q3?

ShiWarrior · 1 Nov 2023 at 09:26

yes BD = Blu-ray sorry
you want the 3D movie if possible as 3D movies in VR work much better than wearing 3D glasses on a normal TV, so more effect

Ravenger · 1 Nov 2023 at 11:49

I have converted Avatar 2 from my 3D Blu-ray to SBS MKV full resolution (1080p per eye) and it looks stunning!

The only issue is Meta have broken the ability to load large files >4gb on the headset so I have to stream from a network share rather than load onto the headset.

I have a huge 3D Bluray collection and a big pile of disks to convert. (I do regular trips to second hand shops and charity shops to find them, and you can pick them up very cheap.) I wish there was an easier way to watch them other than having to manually convert them to SBS format.

Ravenger · 1 Nov 2023 at 11:52

I would like to do a Bigscreen 3D movie night if anyone is interested, though the streaming quality isn't as good as viewing the native video files on the headset or a network share.

If anyone has any particular 3D film they'd like to watch as a social experience then feel free to suggest them. In all likelihood I already have them, plus some ones you might not know about like Dune, Part One.

melmac · 1 Nov 2023 at 12:11

Ravenger said:
I have converted Avatar 2 from my 3D Blu-ray to SBS MKV full resolution (1080p per eye) and it looks stunning!

The only issue is Meta have broken the ability to load large files >4gb on the headset so I have to stream from a network share rather than load onto the headset.

I have a huge 3D Bluray collection and a big pile of disks to convert. (I do regular trips to second hand shops and charity shops to find them, and you can pick them up very cheap.) I wish there was an easier way to watch them other than having to manually convert them to SBS format.

I have asked before but have you tried changing the file extension to .txt copying it across and then change it the extension back after copying. People have reported that this works. It might be worth trying.

Ravenger · 1 Nov 2023 at 12:12

melmac said:
I have asked before but have you tried changing the file extension to .txt copying it across and then change it the extension back after copying. People have reported that this works. It might be worth trying.

I'll give that a go thanks.

boosfuk · 1 Nov 2023 at 12:16

As a new Quest 3 user I'm confused. What platform is it generally better (gameplay, graphics etc.) to buy/play games when you also have a powerful PC?
The more I read the more confused I get.

Quest 3 native - simple but maybe inferior graphics
PC Oculus client airlink (or Virtual desktop) - often free (with cross-buy of Rift version)
PC SteamVR with Virtual Desktop - maybe more complex to setup and separate purchase.

E.G. games like Saints & Sinners, Golf+ are available on all and with S&S graphics do look better on the PCVR version.
Any advice/pointers appreciated , cheers

melmac · 1 Nov 2023 at 12:17

Ravenger said:
I'll give that a go thanks.

I hope it works!! Big Screen Movie night is bad enough with Unseul and ShiWarrior hooting and hollering, throwing popcorn and tomatoes and acting inappropriately without the movie quality been subpar as well!!