I don't get vegetarians, vegans for ethical reason almost has some logic, completely daft but logically complete. But vegetarians, don't eat anaimals directly but don't give 2 hoots about what animals died or differed on the way to give you the vegetarian food. E..g, any milk based product, artificially force continuous pregnancy in cows, any male calfs produced as a byproduct are slaughtered and the hefers are incarcerated in conditions worse than free range beef cattle.
Give my a good steak produced from a happy bull any day week over some pretentious pseudo ethical choice to eat quorn burgers and Brussel sprout dip.
Wow, how they treat those poor pregnant almonds, hazelnuts and soy is really really terrible, I guess I'll stop drinking almond milk because of how they treat the product.... wait, did you not mean to say ANY milk product?
Ultimately its a trade off, doing what you can do rather than everything is frowned upon only when someone wants to make a point. Hey the 12,000 animals that you didn't eat in your life is great but you had 1 pint of milk.... you lose, vegetarians are the worst... briliant logic.
Less animals die to support my life than if I was a full on meat eater, hence, I'm happy about that, have I or can I prevent every single animal dying as the result of my personal choices, no, does that make what I can do worthless, no.
Pseudo ethical, lol, others raised the question, take a lion, can you see a lion out in a field, farming an alternative to meat? No, lions have no choice, that is where we are different. We can and do make alternatives, we CHOOSE to eat meat or not and there lies the reason I'm vegetarian, because I chose not to eat meat because I don't have to.
There are places on the planet it wouldn't be possible to be a vegetarian, and places on the planet it makes more sense than not...
It would also be easier to be a vegetarian, infact, insanely easy, if everyone made this choice because every food stuff you could buy would be vegetarian, the industrys and food production would make life much easier for vegetarians and provide less instances of eating a food you didn't know had a animal by-product in.
I don't really care what other people do though, thats up to them, the only time I mention my being a vegetarian is in defence of people who insist on having a go at it. There are a million moral choices people make, everyones moral choices are different, one person thinks eating meat is bad, war is bad, hookers/drugs are fine, another person thinkgs eating meat is fine, war is fine and hookers/drugs are evil.
People are free to make their own choices, I always find it funny that those who are so adamant they are right, are often the most vocal about how their choice is right, and how often it sounds like they are just trying to make themselves feel better.
IE these threads always come across as "I eat animals, I like animals when I really think about how they are treated it kinda sickens me, but I like meat.... look at those vegetarians/vegans not eating meat and making me feel guilty, time to bash them to make myself feel better about my choice".
But hey, you keep making your "lets have a go at vegetarian" threads... I notice a distinct lack of "hey why aren't you vegetarian" threads around here and really all other forums.
