Quick question on the Gigabyte GA_P35_DS4

done that now..

TAT the idle temp on both is like 45

with 100% workload after 45 mins running its about 77 on both (goes up and down a bit but doesnt go over 79.

that ok?
 
I'd like to thank WJA96 for his input on this thread. I've just ordered a P35-DS4 to couple up with my e6600 and finally ditch my Asrock Dual/Vsta after almost 12 months of solid service but limited o/c potential.
I'm paying close attention to the advice being given, keep up the good work. :D
 
scottyboy said:
done that now..

TAT the idle temp on both is like 45

with 100% workload after 45 mins running its about 77 on both (goes up and down a bit but doesnt go over 79.

that ok?
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75+ is starting to get into the high end of safe. You either need to turn the fan up on the cooler or try and back the voltage off a couple of increments and see if it's still stable. On the plus side, as the thermal interface material (TIM) sets between the CPU and the cooler you should see the temperatures drop off several degrees, so you may be able to raise the FSB back up again.

Personally, I'd spend £5 on a Yate Loon D12-SL12 120mm fan and enjoy acceptable noise levels and a decent overclock. And don't forget that CPU is now massively overclocked for an air cooler! I have an E4300 (same 9 x 200FSB = 1.8GHz startpoint) running at 3.6GHz, but that is under water cooling and it still runs over 60C.

Once you're happy that the temperatures are OK for you (under 70 on 100% load is nice and safe)

If you're not going over 333MHz then you can change the RAM divider to 2.4 which will run your RAM nearer it's rated 800MHz speed.

System Memory Multiplier (SPD) - [2.40]

Then, in the main BIOS screen, if you press CTRL+F1 together the screen will refresh/flash and if you go back into the MB Intelligent Tweaker menu option you will see you have a few more options to set the RAM timings. Set these to what is written on the packaging of the RAM. Your GeIL will be CAS4 or CAS5 and the numbers on the packaging are the first 4 numbers you need to type in eg. 4-4-4-15 or 5-5-5-15.

I do think this illustrates how much free performance is readily available from these lower-cost CPUs. We haven't touched the chipset voltages yet, so that will still be lovely and cool. If you do get a better fan or some ear-defenders then I'd be very interested to know how far you can push the CPU :D

Good luck.
 
scottyboy said:
ok but whats the risk in leaving the voltage high? Im gonna set it to that 1.38750v @ 333 and see how that is. I will post the TAT as well..
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The main risk is high temperatures. The higher the voltage, the higher the temperature. Try it at 1.35V and see if it's stable at 333MHz. If it's not then turn the violtage up one increment and try again. You know it's pretty stable at 1.3875 you the critical temperature/stability voltage is somewhere between 1.325 and 1.3875V. I'd be gobsmacked if it won't run 300FSB (2.7GHz) at 1.35V which should give you a 50% overclock and temperatures between 60 and 65C.
 
the yate loons, ive no idea where u can get them.

ok I will set it to 1.35v and turn the fan up a notch as well.

doesnt say the numbers on the ram packaging (it might on the ram itself which i will check). On the OC website though its 4 4 4 12...

GeIL is proud to announced DDR2 800MHz, PC6400 800MHz supports CAS 4-4-4-12 with 1GB and 2GB Dual Channel Kits. These Ultra modules are hand picked for maximum FSB overclocking potential.
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I will do these changes and post back.
 
right does this look ok? its set to 1.35v.

i do get a red warning flash in bios saying "system voltage not optimised" but i think it always says that..it seems stable.some programs take a bit longer to open and sometimes when i move them accross the screen its a bit juddery but thats only with TAT running at full work..

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the temp on both in TAT at 100% work is 71.

I wanna get a better fan to put in the TT but dont know which one to get. I have another akasa amber fan, dont know if its worth trying that?
 
Yip that's spot on for 3ghz.

71c is a little high, but you won't hit that temp in normal everyday use. Try a certain auction site for a Yate Loon fan.
 
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Cob said:
Yip that's spot on for 3ghz.

71c is a little high, but you won't hit that temp in normal everyday use. Try a certain auction site for a Yate Loon fan.
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yeah I did look before but now theres one on there which im gonna get..are these yate loons D12SL-12 fan controllable. is it pretty quiet at the highest rpm? they are pretty cheap.
 
ok so thats the cpu and mem sorted out (if this yate loon fan is better I might push the cpu higher) - with the TT fan on full blast the temps on TAT max work are still 69 so hardly any difference at all and it sounds like a hoover.

thanks a lot for all the advice and help so far guy espec WJA96, really appreciate it.

but what about the graphics card? :D

its an x1900gt which is apparently getting on a bit but as long as it can make Bioshock look pretty..
 
Yate Loons were the best fans available for a very long time. If you're really struggling to find one try typing "yate loon pc uk" into google.

I'm hugely pleased you got your 3GHz, but I'm afraid I don't do graphics cards. For that you'll need to ask in the graphics forum.

And don't forget - if it's stable at 1.35V - it just might be stable at less than that, and cooler, so the new fan might not be necessary. Try 1.3375V or 1.325V just in case.

Good luck.
 
yea thanks for all the help, i will try 1.3375V and leave it at that ifs its all ok.

just one last thing, is there any utility that monitors it all? like chipset temp, system temp, fan speed, etc?

EDIT well it seems ok @ 3375v.. :D can u tell me though that this flashing red "sys voltage not optimised" is normal?
 
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Yip the 'sys voltage not optimised' is normal for the Gigabyte boards.

Everest is probably the best all-in-one monitoring utility.
 
scottyboy said:
just one last thing, is there any utility that monitors it all? like chipset temp, system temp, fan speed, etc?
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Try PCWizard 2007. It has the best range of outputs I've seen (apart maybe from Everest) and it does seem quite accurate.

The voltage not optimized thing flashes red whenever you shift anything off of stock I believe. It's totally normal (and a bit carp in my opinion).

Now you've reduced the voltage again, does that give you a temperature improvement?
 
scottyboy said:
70 and 71 so not really. Im gonna try the yate loon fan and see what the temps are then.
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Hmmm - I'm beginning to wonder if your heatsink is seated properly as that big a drop in voltage should give you a drop in temperature if the fan speed settings are identical. That is one of the best coolers available, loud fan or not, and it should be doing better than that I would have thought. Are you still using TAT to load the cores? If so then don't worry/ignore this as TAT loads the cores way beyond anything else - even Orthos doesn't get close.
 
WJA96 said:
Hmmm - I'm beginning to wonder if your heatsink is seated properly as that big a drop in voltage should give you a drop in temperature if the fan speed settings are identical. That is one of the best coolers available, loud fan or not, and it should be doing better than that I would have thought. Are you still using TAT to load the cores? If so then don't worry/ignore this as TAT loads the cores way beyond anything else - even Orthos doesn't get close.
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yeah Im using tat. the TT was pretty hard to install but I did it according to instructions and using a thin line of arctic silver 5.

just installed pcwizard2007...

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that all look ok?
 
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You said the Tuniq was noisy? Please recommend a cooler that isn't since I was going to buy a TT for this motherboard!!!

Thanks,

Steve
 
Thermalright HR-01 with the cooling duct. Keeps a Quad 3.6GHz B3 at <60C core with just the rear 120mm case fan!
 
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