Quiet, and as small as possible while being ... erm ... big.

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My current case is a Coolermaster Cosmos, and it's ridiculously big and heavy. And it's pretty needless. It has about a million drive bays, and I will never need them. It was partly bought on the basis of being quiet, but it isn't really.

So, if you wanted a case which was quiet (in so much as the case controls that) and small and light (but big enough to not ever have issues with graphics card fitting) what would you buy?

It maybe doesn't belong in this lounge, but I know nothing about watercooling so I don't know whether I should be aiming for that if I want quiet? I still find the idea rather scary!
 
Definitely aim for watercooling if you want quiet yet well cooled. No need to be scared if you take your time. Flexible tubing will be easier to install than hardline, but to be fair, I didn't find hardline particularly difficult either!

My machine is currently built into an NZXT H440 (link in sig), and with 6 fans across two 360mm radiators, cooling a 1070 and an X99 Xeon, my idle temps are around 30c and load at under 50c, and thats with the fans running around as slowly as the motherboard and fan controller (built into the case as standard) allow. It's sat less than 2 ft from my right ear and I can barely hear it.
 
I have mentioned it in other threads, but I am pretty happy with the Corsair 400Q I recently purchased. It doesn't have any 5.25" slots so it is less deep than a lot of cases. It also has a 3 speed fan controller for 4 fans (3 intake 1 exhaust). My system is almost inaudible on the lowest setting with 4x Arctic F12 fans.
 
Thanks for the tips.

So with watercooling, do you always have a reservoir? Or is the simplest set up just a closed circuit from CPU to a set of external fans? I see (I think) that yours also cools the graphics card directly? (I told you I knew nothing!)
 
Strictly speaking you don't NEED a reservoir, but it makes it far FAR easier to fill. The simplest custom loop would go something like this:

Reservoir > Pump > CPU Block > Radiator (you mount your fans to the radiator) > Reservoir.

I did a simple loop like this in my Asterion review recently: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/raijintek-asterion-classic-mini-review.18778734/

In mine the reservoir and pump are a single combined unit (XSPC Photon), and I've got (as you correctly identified) a GPU block as well as another radiator (down the front of the case, can't see it in the pictures).
 
Reading your posts again, it's probably also worth pointing out that what you and I might be considering as "watercooling" may be differing slightly.

There are two approaches to watercooling:

1) Custom loop. This method involves buying all of the individual components of a loop (blocks, pumps, reservoirs, radiators, tubing, fittings, etc). You decide exactly what you want to (and don't want to) cool using water blocks (such as CPU, GPU, Motherboard/Chipset, even RAM), and buy the blocks to suit your components. You then choose your tubing and fittings (flexible tubing can either be compression or barbed, and hardline tubing is typically some form of compression fitting, but different to flexible compression fittings). You can arrange the loop in whichever way best suits the layout of your case (it matters not if you for example go CPU > Radiator > GPU > Radiator, or CPU > GPU > Radiator > Radiator, as the water will reach an equilibrium temperature in the loop regardless). The pros of going "Custom" are that it typically looks far nicer than an AIO, and because you can choose how much radiator "real estate" to put in, you are likely going to get away with slower (but a higher count of) fans, making the machine quieter. My H440 has 2 360mm radiators (so 720mm of radiator "area", 6 120mm fans to cover the space). The cons are cost, and time taken to install.

2) AIO. The "All in One" method has been around for a good few years now and is essentially a sealed simple loop, typically with a pump directly mounted onto the CPU block (as a single unit), and a single or dual radiator either using 120 or 140 mm fans (so anywhere from 120mm to 280mm of radiator "area", using between 1x120mm fan to 2x140mm fans), the radiator will usually also have a small expansion tank acting as a reservoir, though as said, this isn't a necessity. These are usually very simple to install, but far less flexible, and not usually upgradable (the EK Predator being an exception here, using it's quick disconnects you can add more components to the loop). Pros are as said, simplicity, and cost. Cons are flexibility, upgradability and that they are going to be louder than a well thought out custom loop.

Both options above also have the option to double-up on the fans use by installing in "push/pull" (so a fan on each side of the radiator - a 120mm radiator would have 2x120mm fans, a 280mm radiator would have 4x140mm fans, etc), however in testing with many AIOs and custom loops, I tend to find that you get diminishing returns in cooling performance, but more noise. Certainly with a custom loop (case layout dependent) you'd be better off with more physical radiators than you would trying to improve airflow over them.
 
If you end up wanting recommendations for a custom loop, post up your requirements, PC spec, case and budget in the watercooling section and I'm sure you'll get a myriad of options, advice and help setting it all up!

One key thing though is to not be put off or intimidated by the prospect of watercooling, literally anyone with an ounce of sense can do it so long as you take your time and double check that you've got everything tightened correctly :)
 
I went for Jonsbo UMX4 for small and light. mATX sizing but can hold ATX case and full length cards whilst being full Aluminum and Glass design . updated smaller TJ07 :)

Have to get creative with water cooling. AIO with 27mm 240/radiator will work up top. Two fans directly under GPU will help keep them cool and quieter hopefully
 
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