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R5 1600 with GTX1070. Do I upgrade to 3600, 3700X or stick ?

Dervious

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I'm a fairly casual gamer (finished FC5 a few months ago and am slowly working towards the end of MGS 5, Witcher 3 might be next game to deal with).

My monitor is 1440P G-Sync. Games play pretty well at pretty much maxed settings. I like my PC to be fast and responsive when I'm not gaming, being a bit impatient I like Windows to boot quickly and apps to open fast.

I can afford to buy pretty much the fastest PC possible, but that's because I always look for value for money when parting with cash on anything.

Will spending £200 - 320 on a CPU upgrade make much difference ?
 
Zen 2 is super responsive in windows, the 3600 is way snappier than my i5 8400 and 2400G, in fact I was blown away by how faster the desktop experience is. For your usage I would go with the 3600, way better gamer than the 1600.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Zen 2 is super responsive in windows, the 3600 is way snappier than my i5 8400 and 2400G, in fact I was blown away by how faster the desktop experience is. For your usage I would go with the 3600, way better gamer than the 1600.
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Thanks. I'm thinking that Zen 2 will provide a noticeable overall improvement, so a 3600 is the VFM option. Would an extra couple of cores for an extra £130 be worth it to "future proof", or do I just use the 3600 as a stepping stone ?
 
to throw a spanner in this . spend the extra on a new gpu. custom 5700xt for eg soon. sell 1070 gtx gain about 50 fps in all your games. far better than the 10-15 you might get on the 3600 upgrade.
 
If you bought your 1600 for the value factor then it probably has done a brilliant job, at the end of the day does it really hold you back at 1440p gaming with your current gcard?
As you are at 1440p I'd be tempted to sell off the 1070 and look at a better gpu first.
 
Given that you have a 1440p G-Sync screen, I'd sell off the GTX 1070 and grab an RTX 2070 Super, spending over all about the same.

EDIT: Asus Nvidia RTX2070S Dual O8G EVO 8G can be ordered for only £475, and you'd get between £140-190 for the 1070.
 
No, it won't. You are really better off spending it on a GPU, the 3600 is not going to magically give you a radically improved desktop boost...I know someone said that above and if that is their experience, great....but just get a new GPU, it'll bring genuine huge benefits.

If you want a huge boost in boot times, get a superfast nvme M2 drive.
 
nah it is 40-50 from a 1070 to a 5700xt in many games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh5XuYmAn3I

so if you have a decentish cpu thats what id do for better rewards.

so sell the 1070 gtx while you get decent money for it. at worst you will get 150 for it and good branded one 170-180. i just wouldnt get a blower one. so that means you will have to wait a short while for a custom one.
 
Terrorfirmer said:
No, it won't. You are really better off spending it on a GPU, the 3600 is not going to magically give you a radically improved desktop boost...I know someone said that above and if that is their experience, great....but just get a new GPU, it'll bring genuine huge benefits.

If you want a huge boost in boot times, get a superfast nvme M2 drive.
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Yes Windows is more snappier with my 3700x, coming from a i7 7820HK at 4.2 (laptop).
 
~>Dg<~ said:
just wait for the next revisions of the current new amd cpus. your cpu will be fine for a while yet.
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That makes perfect sense. My 1600 is still doing the biz and is a good match for my GTX1070. Think i'll sit back and watch Intel and AMD slog it out for a while. Also, Nvidia might respond to what AMD are doing with their GPUs.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
to throw a spanner in this . spend the extra on a new gpu. custom 5700xt for eg soon. sell 1070 gtx gain about 50 fps in all your games. far better than the 10-15 you might get on the 3600 upgrade.
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Do as said in the quote, you will see much better frame rates improvement that upgrading your cpu right now. You can leave the cpu for when things settle down. For gaming i would not go anything less than ryzen 3600, would not bother with the 3600X if you have a decent motherboard to overclock it.
 
I agree that you will get more benefit from upgrading the GPU in games.

But dont forget a super powerful GPU is only that powerful when paired with a powerful CPU. All reviews use a highly overcloked top end processor to give whatever 40fps improvement.

In real world if you have a 1600 it would be nowhere near that improvement with a change of GPU.

You can actually check if in the games you play, are you being cpu bound or gpu bound. If cpu bound then go for a cpu upgrade. Else gpu.

Witcher 3 loves a powerful cpu. You can also use the shadow of tomb raider benchmark to see the bottleneck and then decide.
 
Dervious said:
I'm a fairly casual gamer (finished FC5 a few months ago and am slowly working towards the end of MGS 5, Witcher 3 might be next game to deal with).

My monitor is 1440P G-Sync. Games play pretty well at pretty much maxed settings. I like my PC to be fast and responsive when I'm not gaming, being a bit impatient I like Windows to boot quickly and apps to open fast.

I can afford to buy pretty much the fastest PC possible, but that's because I always look for value for money when parting with cash on anything.

Will spending £200 - 320 on a CPU upgrade make much difference ?
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Probably not, in your "casual gamer" case.

If you've finished FC5 - a game known for lower framerates on Ryzen - and you were happy ("Games play pretty well at pretty much maxed settings"), then MGS5 and W3 should play just as well overall. So why waste money when you don't need to. For the record, I've played all the games you list using a 3770k, and they played perfectly fine to me.

I'd stick with what you have. If you really do want to upgrade for "overall" performance, then the 3600 would be a better initial upgrade choice than the GPU.

Having said that, as other folks have pointed out, it's about "balance", and don't also forget to factor in RAM speed into the equation - as older, slower RAM is also going to hamper any CPU upgrade. Of course, once you start thinking about that, then you are thinking about GPU, new ram, NVMe drive and mobo.. So you might as well stick with what you have whilst you are happy and do a more significant upgrade at a later date. That's what I'm doing.

It's easy to read too many posts on OCUK and get carried away with "upgrade-itis". If you are genuinely happy with what you have and seek VFM, then I say simply stay where you are; read the posts on here for fun, whilst staying firmly sat on your wallet. :D
 
nomadd said:
It's easy to read too many posts on OCUK and get carried away with "upgrade-itis". If you are genuinely happy with what you have and seek VFM, then I say simply stay where you are; read the posts on here for fun, whilst staying firmly sat on your wallet. :D
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I knew this, but thanks for the confirmation. I kept my i5-2500K for about 5 years (I actually bought it a day or two before Intel launched Ivybridge CPUs, knowing it was a good CPU with good overclocking prospects). I only upgraded to an R5 1600 when I started to see some actual frame rate issues in certain games. I really haven't seen any issues with the R5 1600 yet, so I must be suffering from a mild case of "upgrade-itis". Wallet closed for a while. :D
 
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