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R9 390 Poor Performance?

honestly sounds very much like driver conflict; Not normally supposed to happen with newer windows but still very much can.

get DDU clean out Nvidia drivers and AMD drivers; then install 16.1s for AMD turn things up to ultra and you'll see your frames rise......:)
 
LeightonJ said:
If i got a corsair h60, and i've heard of 3570K's hitting up to 4.5GHz, would that remove the bottleneck? I'm not very clue'd up when it comes to CPU's!
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I recall that even reading that even overclocked i5 at around 4.5GHz it would dip down to around 70fps at times due to too many players, too many things happening at the same time for multiplayer, so with you i5 at stock, I am not surprised that you would drop down to 50fps from time to time (some people upgraded from their i5 CPU to i7 CPU for the extra logical cores just so they can get even higher frame rate for their 120Hz monitor).

If you are only using a 60Hz 1080p monitor, and is getting minimum 50fps with your i5 at stock, overclocking it to 4.5GHz should more or less bring the minimum to contstant 58-60fps I would imagine.

Also the easiest way to check if your CPU is holding back your 390 while doing BF4 online multiplayer is use some sort of on-screen display- such as the feature available on MSI Aftburner to show the real-time GPU usage...and if your frame rate is dropping while your GPU usage is not remaining at 99/100% and drop by a fair margin, it would be the CPU is holding back the 390 at those particular intensive fights/moments.

BF4 stress on the CPU for singleplayer and multiplayer are two complete different animals, as for singleplayer games in general there will only a few things going on at the same time, whereas online multiplayer there can be a gizillion things happening at the same time with lots of players in the same area spamming explosives and lot more moving objects that need to be rendered, plus Physics calcalations etc.
 
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I have an i5-3570k @ 4.2 and a 780 and the last time i played ( many moons ago ) the average was 105 and minimums were 62fps at 1920x1200 ultra.

Unless something has changed drastically in bf4 i would say your setup should run it full ultra at 1920x1080 perfectly fine around the 100 fps mark.
 
LeightonJ said:
Hi,
literally just bought a Sapphire R9 390, and on battlefield 4, at 1080p, high settings and no AA, im getting around 60fps and dipping to around 50fps, sometimes but very rarely spiking up to 90fps briefly. This just doesnt seem right, seeing as i have a friend with a single 660ti getting the exact same if not better fps than me. This just seems very low for what the benchmarks say it should do, which they say it should get around 80fps average at ultra! not sure what could be the problem? I always have this feeling something is wrong with my pc, just really does seem like i should be getting higher frames?
Thanks for any help!
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If you cannot re-install windows, uninstall all drivers from the system. Use DDU to wipe everything clean, and install Crimson 16.1.

Also at 1080p the CPU is always the bottleneck, if your GPU is up to scratch. For any GPU to stretch it's legs, needs 2560x1440 and above resolution.
 
so I deleted all the old drivers with DDU and reinstalled Crimson 16.1, Generally i am getting better fps now around where i'd expect. Although there still are some frequent dips in fps to the 60 mark, at least not down to 45 anymore. Here are some afterburner screenshots i got:
Framerate - around 70-90 normaly, dipping into 60's pretty often
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CPU Usage - was always around 90%
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GPU Usage - This was all over the bloody place! sometimes dipping down to like 10%, then shooting back up to 90! never stood at 100% like you'd want it too, not sure what this indicates?
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Strangely, I then tried playing at 1440P, and i was getting around 60-70fps which i thought was pretty good. it was a smaller map however, but still. When i exited the game i quickly looked at afterburner, and CPU usage remained around the same, but GPU usage was much more solidly near 100%!
 
LeightonJ said:
so I deleted all the old drivers with DDU and reinstalled Crimson 16.1, Generally i am getting better fps now around where i'd expect. Although there still are some frequent dips in fps to the 60 mark, at least not down to 45 anymore. Here are some afterburner screenshots i got:
Framerate - around 70-90 normaly, dipping into 60's pretty often
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CPU Usage - was always around 90%
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GPU Usage - This was all over the bloody place! sometimes dipping down to like 10%, then shooting back up to 90! never stood at 100% like you'd want it too, not sure what this indicates?
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Strangely, I then tried playing at 1440P, and i was getting around 60-70fps which i thought was pretty good. it was a smaller map however, but still. When i exited the game i quickly looked at afterburner, and CPU usage remained around the same, but GPU usage was much more solidly near 100%!
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That's because at 1440p you are placing more load onto the GPU, so it is only natural that are getting higher GPU usage. The minimum frame rate will always be the lower one of the two figures. i.e. if your GPU can do 100fps, but if your CPU push 50fps at a certain scene, the frame rate you get will still be 50fps; if your CPU can push 100fps, but graphic card can ony do 50fps, you'd still be only getting 50fps at that scene.

The biggest difference though is if the bottleneck is on the GPU side, you can get higher frame rate by reducing graphic settings; however if the bottleneck is on CPU side, you won't see improvement in frame rate by reducing graphic setting.
 
Just got off from using FRAPS to get avg fps, in BF4 paracel storm, ultra settings at 2x MSAA, around 40 players, really quite a slow game where barely any action was going on. Managed to get Min:40, Max: 128, Avg:66
I still feel as if these numbers are way too low. Do you think there is something wrong with the card?
Seen benchmarks of R9 290's also on a 3570K getting 95fps average on a 64 player server, something seriously doesn't add up right!
 
Sorry to bring this thread back up, but once again im getting confused about whats going on with my card. Playing at 1440P and minimum settings only getting around 60-70fps on battlefield 4. Ran MSI AB and looked and i never really went over 900MHz, usually around 700ish. What could be causing this? i know the card should be runnning way better than this, on some maps i generally play at 1440P ultra no MSAA and get around 75 average, so i dont get why it sometimes does this. Heres a screenshot of the MSI AB graph.
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i dont understand why you are getting such low dips in frames on a good card like that,,,im a noob to pc gaming but on battlefield 4 in ultra with aa off i can almost average 40fps with dips to 30fps and highs to 60fps on my old a8 5600k (no oc) and gtx 750 ti?? does seem strange and as if the card or something isnt working properly,,,can you try another graphics card to see if it makes a difference?
 
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