i would carefull calling the coppers as you hit him and he sounds the type who would cry that he is the victim.also it might be a good idea to stay away from the area for a while.i know you shouldnt have to but he might see you and have a few mates with him and decide to jump you.
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Yep just what they need, military and combat training so they can terrorise their area at a professional level once they come out.
Tell me, in which of the following countries is this a concern?
Austria
Denmark
Finland
Germany
Greece
Norway
Sweden
Switzerland
New Zealand
South Korea
Russia
I've left a couple out (Israel etc.) that have an unrelated massive rate of violence.
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Until we all stand up to chav scum they will still think that they can do whatever they please. Good on you for poiting out to him that his behavioue is unacceptable. I hope the other lad who was attacked is okay and wasn't too badly injured. Chavs should be nuetered at birth.
I'm British Born with Pakistani descent, yes.
On the topic of Marriages, not really no. There are less cousin marriages from what I know. a lot of the younger population opt for love marriages now. Less and less familiys are staying backwards.
On the topic of Marriages, not really no. There are less cousin marriages from what I know. a lot of the younger population opt for love marriages now. Less and less familiys are staying backwards.
No, it's a clear case of reasonable force in defence.
Do the countries you mention specifically take violent sociopaths and put them in their army for a couple of years?
That's what was being referred to.
okies nice one for standing up for yourself... now from personal experience, honestly the best things you could do is headbutt him as hard as you can right smack on the forehead. Now i'm a big lad 6ft 16stone gone gym for 5years nearly, and i promise that if you headbutt them hard enough they will be out before they even hit the floor, your head will hurt but he'll be the &*%% chav at the end of it who got battered by the "brown poo" you 
Go with a bunch of mates and batter them
Go with a bunch of mates and batter them
Maybe you should re-read that post, it said every 16 year-old.
Not every 16 year-old is a violent sociopath and national service is not a punishment.
That still isn't clear. "British born of Pakistani descent" doesn't actually state your nationality.
Say, for example, I was born while my parents were temporarily in Brazil for some reason. That would make me Brazilian born of of British descent - would I be Brazilian or British? No way to tell.
I'd go for "Briton of Pakistani ancestry", "British with Pakistani ancestry", something along those lines, or just plain "British", or "English" since he lives in Bradford.
It all depends on a person's point of view, whether they're simply of this country, of this country with strong links to another one, or a foreign national living in this country (in their own mind, even if they legally have British nationality).
The issue was the people like the chav in the original post, and all the others like him.
I think national service is a punishment, but that's an entirely different argument.
The post about national service specifically stated all 16 year-olds. You're talking out of your arse my friend and trying to dig yourself out of a hole, so I will do you a favour and re-quote the posts in question with added emphasis to help your reading comprehension: -
I happen to think that national service would indeed solve some of the problems with youth today, as well as some reforms in the education system too, but as you said it's a whole different kettle of fish.
I was simply responding to the fallacies that a.) national service is a punishment and b.) that it turns kids into psychos, both of which are obviously totally untrue to anyone who has even done a slight bit of research.
Edit: My apologies to Vita for going so far off-topic, it's just that some people talk such dross here.
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I suggest you ask Lord-Jaffa who he meant by "they", as that's the crux of the matter.
Having your freedom taken from you by force of law counts as punishment in my book.
The argument is not that forcing people into the military turns them into psychos, but that it makes the existing psychos more capable as a result of military training.
Having your freedom taken from you by force of law counts as punishment in my book.
The argument is not that forcing people into the military turns them into psychos, but that it makes the existing psychos more capable as a result of military training.
On the subject of police powers, this country is getting stranger.
On the one hand, we're moving towards a state with worrying laws....extension of imprisonment without trial is constantly being pushed for, due process can be waived, routine surveillance of as many people as possible is the norm and the latest law contains a clause deliberately written extremely broadly without any real definition so that it can be used against almost anyone the police want (or are told) to use it against, to put them in jail for 3 years.
On the other hand, casual violence is all too commonplace and the police seem almost powerless to deal with it.
On the one hand, we're moving towards a state with worrying laws....extension of imprisonment without trial is constantly being pushed for, due process can be waived, routine surveillance of as many people as possible is the norm and the latest law contains a clause deliberately written extremely broadly without any real definition so that it can be used against almost anyone the police want (or are told) to use it against, to put them in jail for 3 years.
On the other hand, casual violence is all too commonplace and the police seem almost powerless to deal with it.
It's obvious he meant the government as they run the military.
You must be positively devastated by all the changes in legislation over the last few years then when it comes to to freedom of assembly, power of arrest and such then.
In my humble opinion, and just my opinion, national service is nothing on those sorts of changes.
I already addressed this point by providing a concise list of European countries that have a national service policy, and asking which of those countries have the problem you describe.
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Compare the youth of all those scandanavian countrys (and south korea but i am guessing with this one) to the youth in the uk, I believe they have 100% literacy rate in those countrys for people in schools? The cultures in these countrys is completely different to here you cannot compare them at all. Putting these violent people with violent useless familys/parents/tribes whom all live off the benifits system for multiple generations into armed forces is not going change how they are bred to live, they wont give a damn if some drill sargeant tells them to 10 push ups. Nothing will change these idiots, they are born into a life of stupidity with no way out. If they try and do well at school their parents probably laugh at them and call them fags. Its the mentality of the parents which is the issue not the youths themselves, its the dumb leading the dumb and it will continue untill the source of the problem is iradicated ie the welfare system.
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The national service and new laws are half assed ideas. If you have mouldy food attracting flies, you don't buy fly traps or insect killer, you get rid of the mouldy food. What's needed is education and discipline. Sure kids already get education but I'm not just talking about curricular activities, I'm talking about etiquette and life lessons, basically the stuff that religion teaches without making the school a specific faith school(since people seem to find religion offensive??!!). Sure you might say this should be up to the parents but considering kids spend more time at school then at home, responsibility should be on both sides. Most of the chavs seem to get their life lessons from MTV and Eastenders!!. In my school we stood up for teachers as they walked into the classroom, why can't this happen in all schools? It doesn't cost extra money unlike good teachers. As for discipline, bring back caning at least, if not allowing parents to discipline. Parents need to question they're kids about what they've been doing or when they go out. Discipline helps with self-control too. Something a surprisingly large amount of people don't possess as evidenced by Sidewinders drinking thread and night time in town centres.