Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

humbug · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:31

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Saw this posted on AT forums:

http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums...87444cecb747590fd9f9d72aa089_zpstrfjwyjz.jpeg

The 40 watt Polaris 11.

SiDeards73 · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:32

That seems pretty decent to me for that supposed 460?

Jacksonn · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:32

^^ wish I knew what that was trying to tell me...

sprite- · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:34

Hi All,

As many prefer relative performance - plus how things perform against a higher clocked custom card rather than reference.. I've updated graph and added additional one.

Again, all based on "Leaked" benchmarks of 480 and take with a pinch of salt.

Mauller · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:36

what are the clocks on the MSI gaming x Nvidia parts?

SiDeards73 · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:37

Read that DOOM will be previewed on a Zen CPU tonight at the PCGamer bit of E3, going to watch that! But that might also explain that tweet AMD put out

humbug · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:39

Percentage is good...

I made this one a while ago from TPU's 1080 review, seems defunct now but i did it based off specification calculations, not perf' figures, none available at the time.

old gamer · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:40

LoadsaMoney said:
'Overclockers Dream'

No don't go there

Steampunk · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:45

tavtavtav said:
I'm having trouble believing (or understanding why) AMD have a 480 almost as fast as a 1070, and then have a 490 waiting and not say anything about it.

If 490 is Vega (which I think it is) then it's not ready, so talking about it is just going to cannibalise 480 sales and give Nvidia more info. You can't sell what you don't have.

sprite- · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:46

Mauller said:
what are the clocks on the MSI gaming x Nvidia parts?

Had to take the custom results from Guru3D - where others were from TweakTown. Tweaktown benched the FEs slightly lower than Guru3D did - so the increase difference between looks a little wider. Still, all in the same ballpark.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_gaming_x_8g_review,28.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-gaming-x-review,1.html

drunkenmaster · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:50

If the Polaris 11 roughly half the size of Polaris 10 is getting that performance it would lend some credibility to the other score, although, maybe it makes the Polaris 10 score look a little low for 1400Mhz, unless the RX 460 was heavily overclocked.

Either way within around 2 weeks of launch is absolutely within the window you start to expect more accurate leaks for sure.

In terms of people asking why AMD aren't talking if they have epic performance compared to Nvidia who already have their cards out, why would they?
Nvidia currently has horrific supply and tiny volume of these cards, AMD are barely losing any sales and if in a month 20-30k Nvidia customers feel exceptionally angry about being badly ripped off by Nvidia, $700 for a performance level maybe 20-30% above what AMD provides for $239 all that is happening is a lot of those guys will be extremely upset with Nvidia and there will be a huge backlash on forums/media in general against their pricing practices and complete willingness to rip off their own customers.

Now if Nvidia was actually shipping in the 10-50k cards a week range, which everything suggests they are no where near, it might make more sense for AMD to be more public about performance and price but ultimately again if they are more open Nvidia will pre-emptively drop prices with some excuse, then AMD will be seen as having to price their cards there to be competitive with AMD. this way, AMD announcing their prices before Nvidia makes any price drops, it's clear AMD want value and Nvidia are ripping people off. If Nvidia are forced to drop 1080 prices to within 40% of a RX480 considering performance difference + some premium, it will look terrible for Nvidia.

Again though, Nvidia is shipping tiny quantities, which still points towards a very low initial quantity and waiting for full production to start bringing weekly shipments, while AMD appear to have been in mass production for several months with a very large supply to launch with wide spread availability in retail stores and with OEMs having 100k's of Polaris 10/11 systems ready to ship.

drunkenmaster · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:55

Steampunk said:
If 490 is Vega (which I think it is) then it's not ready, so talking about it is just going to cannibalise 480 sales and give Nvidia more info. You can't sell what you don't have.

Not really, if the RX480 is the top Polaris 10 and RX 490 is Vega... I'll buy both, why?

If RX480 was priced in the same way Nvidia did 1080, like price it at $400-500 because it's premium and new, then when Vega launches the price drops to $239, it's intended final market position. If I bought 1-2 RX480's then when Vega launches I can only sell them for maybe $150, having spent $400+ on each of them and it becomes incredibly expensive with a huge loss, i the same way 980ti second hand prices just tanked...HARD.

But with RX 480 at $239, I can buy 1-2, then when Vega comes out, RX480 prices won't tank because they are already where they are supposed to be, I can sell them for $150 a piece and then buy 1-2 Vega's, having spent $70-80 per card for maybe 6 months usage, maybe more or less. I'm happy to buy a RX480, then upgrade to a Vega... without feeling ripped off by doing so.

Mauller · 13 Jun 2016 at 15:55

1797 for the 1070 and 1911 for the 1080 Gaming X cards by the looks.

D.P. · 13 Jun 2016 at 16:01

sprite- said:
Well to be fair - the 1080 clock is not the actual clock the card is launching with. That was just a figure pulled from some dodgy firmware. The actual clock shown by AMD was 1266 MHz

That would be my worry with the OC figure. 1266Mhz is the value that matches most of the rumors, 3Damark leaks and the FP32 tflops. so 10-11% overclock is giving a 30% performance bump? Or the 1080Mhz is correct but then the rest of the rumors and benchmarks are all wrong for some reason. Would be nice if this was the case.

humbug · 13 Jun 2016 at 16:04

D.P. said:
That would be my worry with the OC figure. 1266Mhz is the value that matches most of the rumors, 3Damark leaks and the FP32 tflops. so 10-11% overclock is giving a 30% performance bump? Or the 1080Mhz is correct but then the rest of the rumors and benchmarks are all wrong for some reason. Would be nice if this was the case.

There are no other benchmarks, just the ones from 1080Mhz.

Mauller · 13 Jun 2016 at 16:06

humbug said:
There are no other benchmarks, just the ones from 1080Mhz.

i think he is talking about the really early 3dMark Performance benchmarks that gave it 18,060 points.

D.P. · 13 Jun 2016 at 16:07

humbug said:
There are no other benchmarks, just the ones from 1080Mhz.

?? I thought there were several 3Makr benchmarks showing 1266MHz clocks.

Edit: yep:
http://videocardz.com/60253/amd-radeon-r9-480-3dmark11-benchmarks

humbug · 13 Jun 2016 at 16:07

Edit: True. from ChipHell, he said he got a BIOS update and posted the new scores, another reviewer posted a separate bench with the same 1080Mhz clock rates. ^^^^ Tweaktown i think it was.

Mauller said:
i think he is talking about the really early 3dMark Performance benchmarks that gave it 18,060 points.

Ah yes, then there was one.

These new ones (one from the same source) appeared apparently after a BIOS update.

Mauller · 13 Jun 2016 at 16:09

humbug said:
Ah yes, then there was one.

These new ones (one from the same source) appeared apparently after a BIOS update.

could be that Engineering samples had gimped bios to help with early leaks or to even catch out people who were leaking.

brynhh · 13 Jun 2016 at 16:10

Even if these leaks are not completely on the mark, I just hope they are on the right lines of truth. It would be a huge shake up to NVidia and current graphics card trends and put AMD seriously back in the mix, competition is never a bad thing.

After the 1070 prices, there's certainly some excitement back which is awesome. Don't want to wait 2-3 weeks now though!