Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

[Greebo]

Are you reading the same thread? Humbug and Greebo stated they were massively disappointed because Gibbo said the 480 wouldn't reach 980ti levels of performance. Humbug and Greebo have called it a fail card, a damp squid, a doorstep.

That's their words, most of the rest of the posters are holding out hope that the 480 is around 980 levels of performance. Roughly the performance level that the majority were thinking it would be.

The people that are slating the 480 the worst were the two people hyping it to the max before that.


This card won't affect Nvidia pricing in anyway. And was never meant to.

Not true and dont mis quote me. I wanted the card to be 980 performance level and it really should be after two years and then if it overclocks 20 to 40% which the leaks seem to show then it will be one hell of a card for the money and close to a stock 980ti performance when the 480 is overlocks like I assumed, wrongly, that a 980 overclocked between 20% and 40% matchs a stock 980ti.

All of a sudden Gibbo basically says it wont even get close to a 980ti, no matter what the overclock.

My disappointment comes from the fact its not even going to be 980 performance level (although it might be still as apparently 980ti stock are something like 180% faster than 980 )

So if the card is only 970 performance levels then yes its a failure.

 

[Gux]

What? low price? its the same price as current cards at the same performance.

More of the same for the same money.

If it was £150 that would be 'ok' but its not, its £250 for another re-badged 390 series....

+1

If this truly is the case then what a let down. I was expecting at least some decent performance improvements with the new 14nm.

AMD looks like is heading for another let down. Same ****, different year

 

[Noctifer]

All of a sudden Gibbo basically says it wont even get close to a 980ti, no matter what the overclock.

He actually hasn't tested the card, so his word is as good as all those rumors.

 

[Mauller]

He's confirmed nothing. He said a page or 2 ago for people to use common sense which is what he is basing the performance on as he said he's not run the card due to be too busy. He did mention the gtx980 which is as close as he came to hinting at performance. Remember Gibbo is saying the gtx980ti is 40% faster than the gtx980 and 390x.

indeed, also gibbo kept talking about overclocked 980ti/titanx/1070 when the people who were talking about overclocking the RX480 were always saying it reaching stock 980ti/1070 performance if the clocking up to 1500+mhz rumours are true.

you even showed how an overclocked 980 can reach a stock 980ti yet people still feel the need to poo poo it as impossible.

Yes it won't beat an overclocked 980TI but it could certainly get near to or match a stock one. (~1000mhz) etc.

so with the 3dmark benchmarks showing the RX480 around 390x/980 - nano performance it is within the realm of posibility.

 

[Greebo]

30-40%

980 OC vs 980Ti OC and the Ti is a good 30-40% ahead, they are super quick cards.

Both 980 and 980Ti also both overclock extremely well. The custom 980 and 980Ti offered big performance boost over reference 980 and 980Ti, typically 20% faster out the box compared to reference versions.

Lets remember 980Ti reference was 1075MHz boost, yet custom cards were 1200-1400MHz region and pretty much every 980Ti could OC beyond 1400MHz with some even over 1500MHz. The 980Ti in particular gained huge performance from the OC, it is one of the best overclocking cards of all time when nearly an additional 40% performance comes from OC alone. The 980 was also very similar in such ability.

Hold on, Kaap and others say overclocks dont gove linear performance gains? Yet a 980ti overclocked by 40% gives a 40% performance boost? Wow I didnt know this.

 

[Supernova]

A lot of people here expect far too much from every GPU launch. Expecting 980Ti speed is just ridiculous.

I actually like the look of the reference design - I'd probably choose it over a custom one due to that and that it's a blower (I have an ITX case). If the 8GB comes in at £220-£240 and is faster than 390X, then it's an attractive price. If it was that price and that performance it will sell very well to anyone who has a very old GPU, or is building their first PC.

 

[humbug]

He's confirmed nothing. He said a page or 2 ago for people to use common sense which is what he is basing the performance on as he said he's not run the card due to be too busy. He did mention the gtx980 which is as close as he came to hinting at what he thinks the performance will be. Remember Gibbo is saying the gtx980ti is 40% faster than the gtx980 and 390x.

You say he confirmed nothing, and yet said it will be 'close to a 980', which is slower than a 390X, so has confirmed it, you don't think he hasn't run any of these? and don't know, that he's just guessing because he hasent had time to run one yet?

Rubbish, he told me to stop over hyping because there was no way it would ever touch a 980TI no mater whats done to it, that's what he said, he let slip.

Now he's just going back to complicate what he now says he meant.

Too late, cats out of the bag

Its a low power 390 for 390 to 390X money.

A 390X is 20% shy of a 980TI, so overclockings not good.

 

[faceman123]

Low power Rebadge confirmed. 390 was £200 on black Friday. Inb4 v2

 

[Dave2150]

All those those rumours are completely shot down by Gibbo
He pretty much confirmed its just a low power 390.

Still a decent card if it's 390 performance, though nothing to be hyped at all.

 

[Seanspeed]

All those those rumours are completely shot down by Gibbo
He pretty much confirmed its just a low power 390.

You know very well that's not what he's saying. I feel like you're quite bipolar on the subject. One minute, you're happy to hype the card up and expect a ton from it and then the next you'll say it's garbage and not even worth considering. I'm coming to think that you're too smart for that to be anything but intentional. You hype the card up when you think it's going to be amazing, which is clearly your leading stance on the subject, but when any potentially bad news comes out, you downplay it to hell, so that expectations are ultra low and people can be 'pleasantly surprised' or something.

 

[TheRealDeal]

You say he confirmed nothing, and yet said it will be close to a 980, which is slower than a 390X, so has confirmed it, you don't think he hasn't run any of these? and don't know, that he's just guessing because he hasent had time to run one yet?

Rubbish, he told me to stop over hyping because there was no way it would ever touch a 980TI no mater whats done to it, that's what he said, he let slip.

Now he's just going back to complicate what he now says he meant.

Too late, cats out of the bag

Yet i have shown above that a gtx980 can. Gibbo is over estimating how quick a stock clocked gtx980ti is. Once you start overclocking then the gtx980ti will be way out of site of a RX480. If it overclocks quit well i don't see why it can't at least come within 10% of a stock gtx980ti. This is assuming its at 390x/gtx980 performance.

 

[faceman123]

Still a decent card if it's 390 performance, though nothing to be hyped at all.

Disagree, remember a 390 is 290.

 

[humbug]

You know very well that's not what he's saying. I feel like you're quite bipolar on the subject. One minute, you're happy to hype the card up and expect a ton from it and then the next you'll say it's garbage and not even worth considering. I'm coming to think that you're too smart for that to be anything but intentional. You hype the card up when you think it's going to be amazing, which is clearly your leading stance on the subject, but when any potentially bad news comes out, you downplay it to hell, so that expectations are ultra low and people can be 'pleasantly surprised' or something.

To me its not unreasonable to say a card overclocked it might match a 980TI.

Especially if it already has 2304 Shaders and run at 1266Mhz

Gibbo basically had a go at me for hyping the card up at that, what he doesn't realise is 'if that' is over hyping the card? its junk, expensive junk.

You can't get away from it, he read what i said, and reacted like that.

 

[TheRealDeal]

We are potentially looking at gtx980 performance at sub £200 for the 4gb version. That's a major step up in performance for this price bracket.

 

[RavenXXX2]

970/390 performance and up there with the 980 in DX12 titles or with OC in DX11. Price is key, if it goes sub £200 for 8GB then not that bad but over then it's a hard sell.

 

[faceman123]

To me its not unreasonable to say a card overclocked it might match a 980TI.

Especially if it already has 2304 Shaders and run at 1266Mhz

Gibbo basically had a go at me for hyping the card up at that, what he doesn't realise is if that is over hyping the card is junk, expensive junk.

Smells like a furyx all over again

 

[FoxEye]

A lot of people here expect far too much from every GPU launch. Expecting 980Ti speed is just ridiculous.

I actually like the look of the reference design - I'd probably choose it over a custom one due to that and that it's a blower (I have an ITX case). If the 8GB comes in at £220-£240 and is faster than 390X, then it's an attractive price. If it was that price and that performance it will sell very well to anyone who has a very old GPU, or is building their first PC.

That's not good enough, clearly.

"If you have a 290 or a 390, you won't be getting any upgrade from us for the next 20 years, because at the £200 price point, it will only *ever* be 290 performance. But we'll keep lowering the power. In 2030, you'll get 290 perf at 5W! At £200! What a bargain.

It'll be a great card for those who've never had a 290/390/480/580/680/780/880 or similar. For those who have never owned a GFX card it's perfect!"

Nope. Doesn't wash for me.

 

[Seanspeed]

so with the 3dmark benchmarks showing the RX480 around 390x/980 - nano performance it is within the realm of posibility.

And what about the Firestrike and SteamVR scores saying it's less than that?

I'm not saying Nano performance is an impossibility, I just think maybe people should start tempering expectations some.

 

[TheMorningStar]

there is no 1060/ti yet , but my guess 1060 would be more 470 competition performance wise while at 480 price tag, knowing Nvidia and their last x60 cards.
RX480 is about 100% faster than 270X
the RX 460 would be a sidegrade to a 270X, for less than 80-100£

They don't really compete directly these days, it's just never that close anymore.

470 will probably compete nicely with the 1060 though

480 would compete with the 1070 by all accounts but AMD have been much more conservative with their clocks from what we know so far. I'd be interested to see a clock for clock comparison on those two cards at some point. As it is, Nvidia are clocking their reference hundreds of Mhz higher but the AMD silicone is capable of similar if rumours are to be believed.

I may end up getting one or two of these in 8gb in around 6 months at this rate, still kinda want Vega though but Navi looks super interesting and could be more fun

Is the 1070 the same as the 1080 with 1/4 of the chip disabled? I don't follow Nvidia very closely but that's the impression I get.

 

[humbug]

Its nothing like a decent card at 390 performance.

Guys come on get real, the 390 is over 3 years old and was the same price as the 480 is alleged to be 3 years ago.

Its absolutely atrocious.