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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

Rops i think is tied to pixel fillrate, which i think is for AA and ability to do higher res without slowdown. So more rops equals better aa performance and play in higher res.
 
Not all Rops are made equally... Rop revolution!

What makes people think that the rops have not been tweaked for higher throughput?
 
Here updated and specific specs for the 480/470/460. Safe to say Wiz at techpowerup has the official specs from AMD. 32 rops it is then.

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Here updated and specific specs for the 480/470/460. Safe to say Wiz at techpowerup has the official specs from AMD. 32 rops it is then.
Stop this man. You're coming across like a wishful thinking fanboy here trying to pass off unconfirmed information as absolute fact with a level of certainty that is completely unjustified.
 
I don't give a crap about cool, I want to know how this will impact the card performance wise. Does it mean that using AA will impact the card, or z-buffer issues due to limited rops etc?

Why are they reducing ROPS? You would think that there would be a push for 128 ROPS on the higher end cards, and the mid-range would be pushing 64 by now, unless they were being utilized less, or the compute parts could do the same task etc.... Can anyone explain why please?

Well ROPS are influenced by clock speeds. So a graphics card that runs at 1400 and has 32 ROPS might beat a card that runs at 800 and has 48 ROPS. These numbers are for illustration, not accuracy, btw. Also, ROPS used to be a big bottleneck and isn't usually anymore. So in theory, it's possible that on a 480 which clocks higher than cards of olden days, maybe 32 ROPS is acceptable. I honestly don't know enough about this area to say whether that's likely or not and I think we have to wait for game benchmarks to see. That said, the Scottish Guy said 32 would be bad and that AMD would be daft to put 32 on the 480, so...
 
a 215 pound card will cost you 269 euro inc shipping (just checked)

Cheaper if the pound keeps falling

last week a 215 pound card would have cost you at least 290 euro inc shipping

Last week is irrelevant sadly anything listed back than already has stock in the warehouse that's been paid for. So for old stock yes it might get a bit cheaper.

Gibbo has clearly stated that for the 480's the stock is not all in, and even the few that is in is not paid for yet. So prices will rise, which completely counters any strength the € has against the pound there.

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=29679364&postcount=7250

Unfortunately some stock has not landed and some is on account basis so will be booked at the new rate.

In short nothing but a disaster as this has a very negative impact on prices as now everything goes up!!! :( :( :(


Also if the card somehow comes in the the extremely low price of £215, that would cost me £221.45 once you add in the extra +3% Irish vat.

Then add in the shipping which ranges from £24-27 if I don't want to wait a week for my item to arrive; and I need to pay £245 essentially. That's €293

So if the card costs more than £220 which seems increasingly likely, I still don't see how it's much of a "steal" as you originally put it. My worst case is that the price on launch is closer to £250 than 215 which means it's going to cost significantly more than it should.

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So what does this mean, how does only 32 rops affect gaming? Surely this must have an impact in some games?

We'll find out. AMD can be very cunning and lean down chips without affecting the performance - the 7870 also only has 32 ROPs and it was never a concern. It does suggest it won't be a monster for super-high resolutions or AA modes, but that's what Vega is for ;)
 
We'll find out. AMD can be very cunning and lean down chips without affecting the performance
I'd say that hasn't been their strong suit at all, and is more Nvidia's realm.

But it's not impossible. And indeed - the end performance is what ultimately matters, not how many numbers of things it has.
 
Nothing is confirmed til AMD or official reviews say so.

Seriously, you are embarrassing yourself now.

Who do you think updates the techpowerup GPU database? that's right the guy that reviews the GPUs for them. As good as confirmed.

Now I'm sorry the hype train just took a knock but there is really no need to get angry.
 
Who do you think updates the techpowerup GPU database? that's right the guy that reviews the GPUs for them. As good as confirmed.

Now I'm sorry the hype train just took a knock but there is really no need to get angry.
No one is getting angry. You're simply acting unjustifiably smug and trying to pass off rumors/leaks as confirmed fact when it's anything but.

Likely for very agenda-driven reasons.
 
We'll find out. AMD can be very cunning and lean down chips without affecting the performance - the 7870 also only has 32 ROPs and it was never a concern. It does suggest it won't be a monster for super-high resolutions or AA modes, but that's what Vega is for ;)

Yer, I expect AMD have done something very very clever if they are going with 32 ROPs (even though I refuse to accept that it isn't 64) They indeed can be very cunning. Take the 7XXX as an example. They had hidden performance and a short while after (10 months I think it was), they brought out the 12.11 drivers, that allowed the 7XXX to stretch its legs and surpass the 680 (7970 that is) and hopefully they will be doing something similar with this 480.....
 
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