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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199
- Thread starter Kaapstad
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Anyone linked this already?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat (man)?
They rate the 480 and the *470* is 1440p cards? The actual ****?
And the 460 and 450 are 1080p? What, at like 12 FPS?
Am I reading this wrong?
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Makes sense now, thanks for that link.
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Hmmm, seems they are 'power throttling'
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Fixed for you.
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These sorts of things are always a bit optimistic/misleading. But then again, I see plenty of people trying to say that a 390/970/480 are 'just fine' for 1440p on here, too.
I'm guessing it's something like how Nvidia's Geforce Experience auto-optimizing functionality only aims for 40fps or so. Obviously plenty of gamers are actually fine with that, which is fair, but if 60fps is important to you, then yea, these recommendations are not terribly useful.
Anyways, looks like they're going with an Intel-like naming scheme. Which isn't any less confusing than what they were doing before, if you ask me. Especially if these are just higher-clocked revisions or something like that. Just seems like a cheap way to make people think it's a new, better card, kinda like rebranding but without even rebranding.
The original 380X was also reviewed as a 1440P when it came out. Kinda bizarre I think.
There is no 4GB exclusivity it seems, just 4GB disabled by vBIOS on full 8GB capacity cards and unlockable by simply running an .exe file. Happy days for those who bought on launch day.
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-4gb-video-cards-8gb-memory_183548
http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-4gb-versus-radeon-rx-480-8gb_183576
crimson that updates bios nahhh (but i'm often wrong lol)
Soldato
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Nevermind Titan, Nvidia was advertising/suggesting people to get a few 780 with 3GB vram for 4K gaming lol
http://www.geforce.co.uk/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-battlebox
Well to be fair, a pair of 780's was probably reasonably 4k-capable when considering it came out before next-gen consoles. These were not vRAM-heavy games whatsoever.
Those users would have a rude awakening less than a year later, though...
Soldato
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So exactly as I have been saying and I thought, the cards are thermally held back and power restrained. Like I've been saying the AIB cooled and power phased cards should be something decent to see.
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Actually, that's the issue. We asked motherboard makers prior to posting our updated story on this, and they stated that sustained (average) load exceeding 75W can lead to damage. This was further confirmed when we saw the voltage droop to 11.5V from the motherboard slot while the 6-pin connector (carrying the same current) was able to maintain 12.0V.
The other examples folks are citing are the Toms reviews which are measuring in a way that can see the instantaneous current spikes resulting from the DC-DC switching power supply on (all) GPUs. A switching supply, when measured in that way, is going to potentially spike above the limit. Motherboard makers have told us that those instantaneous spikes are not the issue. The issue is sustained load from the slot, which the 480 is exceeding.
What is causing more confusion is that plenty of cards in the past have exceeded the 6/8-pin spec, but we / others don't make such a huge deal about that since that is a direct link to the +12V rail of the PSU, which can usually handle way more than the stated limits for those connectors. Motherboard traces / PCIe pins are way more limiting.
Main issue seems to be the standard test for pci-e then and the certification.
if you send cards, they pass as they are tested then someone at the pci-e certification protocol responsability messed up.
solution to the current issue should then be either a bios fix or a software update, seems easy enough.
For those into conspiracy theories you dont send cards to test and then change them to sell otherwise specified.
the protocol for pci-e and its certification seems not good enough.
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AMD and Intel create CPUs with 125W limits yet are fine pushing 250W through the motherboard, vrms and pins let alone the CPU itself. Rated at, and can run at, are very different.
Likewise plenty of people overclocked the 750ti without pci-e connector and used well beyond 75W... it's a non issue.
Also a droop of 11.5v on the slot makes no difference, vrms aren't only capable of dropping 12v precisely down to the required voltage, on cpu, gpu or anything else, vrms work in a range, as do psus, as does everything electrical. Incredibly standard on most electrical items is input being +/- 10% of the rated amount.
Saying sustained load exceeding 75W can cause damage is confirmed by seeing a voltage droop is insanely bad writing. In what way did that confirm damage... it didn't. Vdroop is not a sign of damage nor an indication that damage will occur.