Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

PhoenixUK · 1 Jul 2016 at 17:33

RavenXXX2 said:
£300+? It's a 960 replacement not the 970.

$239 release price for 4gb 960, nvidia added 40-50 on top of everything this time around (1070-1080) so expect around $279 release price which will put it around £270+ for 6gb or around £220/230 for 3gb with current rates in UK.

Not quite £300 but if you think it's going to be any cheaper than £250 then I guess you'll have as much luck as people who thought that the 480 will be matching 980ti and 1070.

RavenXXX2 · 1 Jul 2016 at 17:44

$379 1070 msrp, best case scenario I think we can knock $150 off that so $230 for the 1060 because it is way off 1070 performance. 1060 6GB £220-250, 3GB £160+. These prices will kill off the 480 and will sell like crazy, think 970 popularity.

flopper · 1 Jul 2016 at 17:49

RavenXXX2 said:
970 popularity.

Thank you the 480 is just that

malventano · 1 Jul 2016 at 17:53

drunkenmaster said:
Saying sustained load exceeding 75W can cause damage is confirmed by seeing a voltage droop is insanely bad writing. In what way did that confirm damage... it didn't. Vdroop is not a sign of damage nor an indication that damage will occur.

Bad writing by the motherboard makers that responded to our questions?

A voltage drop across a connector directly equates to resistance / heat production / potential damage.

Exceeding 5.5A on the PCIe connector exceeds the maximum sustained amperage rating of those +12V pins. The rating is there for a reason. Are you trying to argue that 10A is just fine? How about 15A? How about we just run our vacuum cleaner off of it?

WYNIR0 · 1 Jul 2016 at 17:58

Scougar said:
So can't get to 1500mhz? wccftech really showed how full of junk they really are.

The flurry of information aka "leaks" coming from them was incredible over this card. If this tells you anything about their total disregard for truth....

Playing Devils Advocate, <hopeful mode /on> They could have been talking about the AIB cards <hopeful mode /off>

kalniel · 1 Jul 2016 at 18:03

RavenXXX2 said:
$379 1070 msrp

ROFL. Have you seen the prices? Still about £400. The 1060 isn't going to even compete in the same space as the 480, it'll be way more expensive.

Mauller · 1 Jul 2016 at 18:05

Scougar said:
So can't get to 1500mhz? wccftech really showed how full of junk they really are.

The flurry of information aka "leaks" coming from them was incredible over this card. If this tells you anything about their total disregard for truth....

They were talking about aftermarket parts from the start.

Anyone else looked into this undervolting? People getting better performance and lower power usage.

Looks like a mix of issues relating to software and thermal throttling.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qoclm/german_site_explores_the_potential_for/d4v6aca

Mauller · 1 Jul 2016 at 18:06

kalniel said:
ROFL. Have you seen the prices? Still about £400. The 1060 isn't going to even compete in the same space as the 480, it'll be way more expensive.

more expensive, 3 and 6GB versions and up to 10% better than current RX480 benches at 1700mhz. From the leaks going around. Apparently it is around 980 performance but gets there using high clocks.

Yet the 480 will more than likely improve as drivers are tuned for the newer hardware features such as the partial Kernel mode Driver offloading to the Command processor and primitive discard etc.

Apparently the Command processor on the RX480 can be updated with new microcode.

Scougar · 1 Jul 2016 at 18:28

Mauller said:
more expensive, 3 and 6GB versions and up to 10% better than current RX480 benches at 1700mhz. From the leaks going around. Apparently it is around 980 performance but gets there using high clocks.

Yet the 480 will more than likely improve as drivers are tuned for the newer hardware features such as the partial Kernel mode Driver offloading to the Command processor and primitive discard etc.

Apparently the Command processor on the RX480 can be updated with new microcode.

Oh.. got a link to the command processor info at all? Very interested in that.

I am thinking of just forking out the money and getting a 1070 as that will last quite some time, as I just know myself and I won't be happy with the 480/1060 in the medium term, and will look to upgrade anyway. That, and I do actually seem to have trouble shifting my old PC kit over here. I'm not that trusting of new forums for selling stuff.

flopper · 1 Jul 2016 at 18:33

kalniel said:
ROFL. Have you seen the prices? Still about £400. The 1060 isn't going to even compete in the same space as the 480, it'll be way more expensive.

you pay 460-500 euro for the 1070 here, the 1080 is 700euro.
480 priced at 270 euro
Thats a 200 euro difference here atm, not sure where the 1060 goes but cant say I think it be anything else than 350-400 euro

In any case the 480 wins out.
especially as aib cards hit the streets

and besides the 1060 will likely have the Nvidia tax on it.

Spuddy · 1 Jul 2016 at 18:43

do any of the 480 cards allow the cooler to be removed for water-cooling without voiding the warranty?

danlightbulb · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:03

Hmm £250 for the AIB is better than their initial MRSP £280 but still seems high in comparison to the card it replaces and to the competition's 970. It seems to me that the 1060 wont be far away from that price point either. Its pushing it for me, the 470 may have to be my card so i can get sub £200, which is a shame.

Gibbo · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:06

danlightbulb said:
Hmm £250 for the AIB is better than their initial MRSP £280 but still seems high in comparison to the card it replaces and to the competition's 970. It seems to me that the 1060 wont be far away from that price point either. Its pushing it for me, the 470 may have to be my card so i can get sub £200, which is a shame.

Buy an RX 480 4GB, we still have some left at £188.99 delivered, they won't last much longer though!

Mauller · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:10

Scougar said:
Oh.. got a link to the command processor info at all? Very interested in that.

I am thinking of just forking out the money and getting a 1070 as that will last quite some time, as I just know myself and I won't be happy with the 480/1060 in the medium term, and will look to upgrade anyway. That, and I do actually seem to have trouble shifting my old PC kit over here. I'm not that trusting of new forums for selling stuff.

It was mentioned in a slide for the improvements in the HWS, command processor and ACE's.

Could have been in reference to the HWS modules instead of the command processor since they upgraded them with GCN4. But even then the HWS and ACE's play a big role in work distribution.

http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/...-RX-480-Polaris-10_Hardware-Scheduler-HWS.jpg

Rorin · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:11

D.P. said:
Can't hit 1400MHz under water.

I think this will be fairly typically because the chips are just pushed well to their limits already.

They all said its not a matter of voltage but power constraints. And this seems quite logical given the power limits already present.

AIB cards with an 8 pin connector should clock well above 1400 MHz

danlightbulb · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:20

Gibbo said:
Buy an RX 480 4GB, we still have some left at £188.99 delivered, they won't last much longer though!

Not gonna rush into it as want a selection of cards to choose from and would rather have an AIB with better cooling and power.

Probably best waiting till the dust settles.

Congrats on selling them well though. a lot of people must have been waiting for the 4gb ref version for some reason.

D.P. · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:27

Rorin said:
They all said its not a matter of voltage but power constraints. And this seems quite logical given the power limits already present.

AIB cards with an 8 pin connector should clock well above 1400 MHz

I very much doubt it.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ns-Radeon-RX-480/Overclocking-Current-Testing
Look what happens when a 3.5% overclock is applied with a 30% power - the 480 starts burning 190w with spikes over 200w.

The 480 has been clocked well past the normal frequency-power curve and is right at the limits. An AIB solution with an 8 pin may provide the power but the chip will be toast.

WeSbO · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:30

D.P. said:
Can't hit 1400MHz under water.

I think this will be fairly typically because the chips are just pushed well to their limits already.

There is something very important that he mentioned in the video, that vcore voltage wasn't the limiting factor, only board power limit. Meaning AIBs will probably clock higher (that core might even be able to take more volts, with a beefier power delivery, which would be great)

Mtom · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:32

D.P. said:
I very much doubt it.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...ns-Radeon-RX-480/Overclocking-Current-Testing
Look what happens when a 3.5% overclock is applied with a 30% power - the 480 starts burning 190w with spikes over 200w.

The 480 has been clocked well past the normal frequency-power curve and is right at the limits. An AIB solution with an 8 pin may provide the power but the chip will be toast.

Thats why ref cards with a cpu cooler strapped on gone past 1400 already with the gimpy 6 pin connector?
Its almost certain the reviewers who report crashes with just a few % OC get the crash because their mobo didn't tolerate the increase power draw. A 8 pin instead of 6 pinwill solve it.
Also ltes not forget that with lower temps the leajage is kess, and the amount of power needed decreases...aftermarket coolers should drop temps by around 20C

Nick1881 · 1 Jul 2016 at 19:35

I want a new gfx card to dabble in a few games, Doom etc. I haven't done any gaming in a few years, currently running a passive basic card as the noise from my last tri fan card was too much. My Phanteks Enthoo EVOLV ATX currently is inaudible and I'd like to keep it that way.

Is there anyway I can keep a very quiet system and still game a little? I take it the reference cooler will be the loudest?