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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199
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Soldato
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Yea i do agree, AMD sometimes do snatch failure from the jaws of Victory. Reviews have been favorable in this case but i feel a few things could have been better.
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I guess you missed all the threads about 3.5 gate, or nVidia drivers blowing up cards.
Because we only post when AMD has an issue, right? We don't at all, ever, point out anything that's wrong with nVidia. We're all nVidia shills here, anyway, right?
Don't know where my cheque is tho. Must have got lost in the post.
Always amuses me that one - people all too happy to bring it up at every opportunity when it is nVidia - when the boot is on the other foot its "trolling", trashing threads, etc.
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It is panic that has no doubt being created by parties to try and hurt AMD sales.
The facts are all modern PCI-E gaming cards can and do exceed PCI-E limits on the voltage, we have not seen any failures on motherboards from this at all for past several years. All the current NVIDIA and AMD cards can draw more than PCI-E limit and no damage has being caused.
It is nothing new, but for some reason some select individuals trying to make it sound like a bigger problem than it is and one which only effects RX 480 when in reality all cards are equally effected.
I would not worry, of course some people will still be frightened by such scare mongering and as always we pride our selves on customer service so anyone who does not want to chance it can simply return their card, but cards such as 960, 970, 380, 390 etc. can also draw more power than PCI-E specification and no one made so much noise about those cards.
Also AMD have already announced a fix for those who want to stay within PCI-E regulations and the driver that resolves this shall be released on July 5th, so there really is nothing to worry about.
Great post, Gibbo knows the score.
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With Amd it's usually little things that are fixed but with Nvidia when they do things they do it in style like the gtx970 3.5gb and Jens excuse 
. This could be fixed as soon as Tuesday and looks not to be the problem some are making it out to be.
. This could be fixed as soon as Tuesday and looks not to be the problem some are making it out to be.
Sheesh I can remember SLI GTX470's pulling so much juice through the motherboard they fried the 24pin ATX connectors and mobo makers had to add extra molex power sockets on the board to keep up with the power requirements of what was then "modern" graphics cards (read Fermi)
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It is panic that has no doubt being created by parties to try and hurt AMD sales.
The facts are all modern PCI-E gaming cards can and do exceed PCI-E limits on the voltage, we have not seen any failures on motherboards from this at all for past several years. All the current NVIDIA and AMD cards can draw more than PCI-E limit and no damage has being caused.
It is nothing new, but for some reason some select individuals trying to make it sound like a bigger problem than it is and one which only effects RX 480 when in reality all cards are equally effected.
I would not worry, of course some people will still be frightened by such scare mongering and as always we pride our selves on customer service so anyone who does not want to chance it can simply return their card, but cards such as 960, 970, 380, 390 etc. can also draw more power than PCI-E specification and no one made so much noise about those cards.
Also AMD have already announced a fix for those who want to stay within PCI-E regulations and the driver that resolves this shall be released on July 5th, so there really is nothing to worry about.
Exactly this and its a real shame some people are clearly more interested in page hits than healthy consumer GPU competition.
Except the PCie power isn't an issue at all. And look on this forums how people are still running with it.
This is just all wrong, I don't know where to begin. Despite what Gibbo says (hint: he wants to keep selling 480s and doesn't seem to have a good enough grasp of the issue, not his fault, half the people here are posting rubbish and trying to cloud it) this isn't going away. This tosh about minimum IS bunk yet you have the gall to talk about "debunking". If you don't know what you're talking about and are just trying to carry water for AMD out of some butthurt fanboy sentiment, please just be quiet and let the experts hash it out. Someone from pcper even posted here trying to give you the straight dope but you put your hands over your ears and screamed LALALA.
Funnily enough this would have been sorted already if there wasn't so much FUD flying around from the red team trying to cover it up.
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Also worth considering that OcUK have no liability if the 480 does cause any damage to your rig.
Perhaps if they were liable they'd be a little less gung-ho with the "not a real problem" rhetoric... Just maybe.
One of the things people don't seem to be comprehending as well is the difference between peak/spiking (even when the average is high) and sustained loads - most electronics can deal with short period running above nominal spec due to the nature of things like inrush current when charging capacitors, switching power regulation, etc.
the card itself shoud'v never have typical draw of 150watt, when i heard the 480 spec having 6pin connector, my mind told me the card should be around 130watt, when i saw reviews reporting 150-160watt typical gaming load, i knew AMD have pushed the card way too far for it's reference design.
i still dont believe this can destroy hardware, if it did AMD would have called back the cards, they just can't handle the law suits/RMA issues with parteners, there is an issue with over draw from pci-e slot, still not as critical, and hopefuly the 5th july driver fixe doesnt create some kind of bottleneck that lowers performance for reference cards.
shame though i hope this doesnt affect AMD's relation/deals with OEMs because they need to get back to that market.
I would find that comment insulting if I was Gibbo into pure spite actually.
It even goes into slander which btw is a legal serious issue not to be taken lightly.
Nvidia sold bad cards that burned computers and they knew it when they sold those cards, so who is covering up what really? ask apple why they dont buy nvidia cards anymore.
You seem part of the nvidia focus group semantics btw and thats serious enough that people here have to suspect you for such hidden tactics whenever you post again.
You guys are just sad. The people most up in arms about this are the same people that are bashing the 480 in every thread. This is just a big pile of BS.
Listen to yourselves, do you think for one minute that Overclockers would be selling these cards if there was any danger of them destroying motherboards? Think of the trouble with returns, damaging reputation etc. Don't be foolish.
There is no issue, there is just people jumping on the bandwagon. Look back at when the 6990 was released, there was the same rubbish been thrown around. People were talking about suing AMD for damage to their motherboards etc. It all faded away when nothing happened. Just like this will fade away when nothing happens.
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Again its gibberish, past Toms Hardware reviews have shown a similar thing on Nvidia cards and it was not a problem.
Cards have been drawing more than 75 Watts from the board PCIe intermittently and even continuously since X and it was never a problem.0
Overclocking those PCIe only 750TI's will draw more than 75 Watts from the PCIe continuously, way more, Toms Hardware's own results show they spend half their time pulling 85 to 100 Watts from the PICe at stock, not a problem.
Why would it be? ^^^^ It isn't.
An RX 480 spiking at 80 Watts (not 85 to 100 Watts like the 750TI but margin of error values) on the PICe is a motherboard killer? <Motherboard killer Nicely done for dramatic effect... Pfft
AMD are under constant embattlement, especially when launching new products, sometimes with some degree of warrant, most of the time not even that.
This is defiantly one of those where its obvious what is going on and clear who is willing to partake in it.
Thats what we really learnt here.
Gibbo is bang on.
Cards have been drawing more than 75 Watts from the board PCIe intermittently and even continuously since X and it was never a problem.0
Overclocking those PCIe only 750TI's will draw more than 75 Watts from the PCIe continuously, way more, Toms Hardware's own results show they spend half their time pulling 85 to 100 Watts from the PICe at stock, not a problem.
Why would it be? ^^^^ It isn't.
An RX 480 spiking at 80 Watts (not 85 to 100 Watts like the 750TI but margin of error values) on the PICe is a motherboard killer? <Motherboard killer Nicely done for dramatic effect... Pfft
AMD are under constant embattlement, especially when launching new products, sometimes with some degree of warrant, most of the time not even that.
This is defiantly one of those where its obvious what is going on and clear who is willing to partake in it.
Thats what we really learnt here.
Gibbo is bang on.
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Yeah I snapped up the Sapphire Nitro one as well. Looking forward to trying it with Freesync as well.
15 079 graphics at 1410 MHz at 1150mV, 30C under water. What does 15k graphics compare to?