Radeon RX 5700 Thread

[Quartz]

Anandtech article here, TechPowerUp here.

So, they're promising 25% more performance than the Radeon VII when fitted to a PCIe v4 motherboard. That should put them in between the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti. But they demoed it against a RTX 2070. This does not bode well. Unless there are forthcoming RX 5800 and RX 5900 cards coming...

 

[Poneros]

Everything depends on the price and extra features, in order to differentiate itself from vegas. Hope we'll have good news at e3.

They 100% need vrs, rt, and hdmi 2.1

 

[bru]

Everything depends on the price and extra features, in order to differentiate itself from vegas. Hope we'll have good news at e3.

They 100% need vrs, rt, and hdmi 2.1

Very good point, AMD have the opportunity to be first to market with HDMI 2.1 and benefits that can bring, not sure about Ray tracing though, I would have expected them to mention it if it did have any hardware for it. So I doubt it will have dedicated hardware support but software support definitely, but of course anything is possible.

Pricing will be crucial and looking at where AMD are positioning Ryzen 3000, I would expect RX5700 to have competitive pricing but not massively undercutting the competition.

 

[Martini1991]

Is HDMI 2.1 Freesync as standard? Or am I confusing things?

 

[shankly1985]

They showed a Navi + Ryzen 2 system beating an Intel system with RTX 2080 Ti
On a new benchmark software to showcase pcei 4.0

Hoe this goes well for gaming will remain to be seen.

 

[Martini1991]

They showed a Navi + Ryzen 2 system beating an Intel system with RTX 2080 Ti
On a new benchmark software to showcase pcei 4.0

Hoe this goes well for gaming will remain to be seen.

There's no way what they showed is going to correlate to gaming for the 5700X Navi lol.

 

[bru]

Is HDMI 2.1 Freesync as standard? Or am I confusing things?

Good question, isn't VRR still only a optional part of the spec, mmmm not sure my self now.
Of course even if it is only optional we can be sure that AMD would include it if possible.

 

[shankly1985]

There's no way what they showed is going to correlate to gaming for the 5700X Navi lol.

Didn't say it would
It's still something to go with though.

 

[shankly1985]

For anyone not wanting to watch above video

 

[d_brennen]

They showed a Navi + Ryzen 2 system beating an Intel system with RTX 2080 Ti
On a new benchmark software to showcase pcei 4.0

Hoe this goes well for gaming will remain to be seen.

They showed a PCIe benchmark showing PCIe 4 being better than PCIe 3

 

[Poneros]

Is HDMI 2.1 Freesync as standard? Or am I confusing things?

It's VRR. Both AMD & Nvidia will have to enable that on their GPUs, separately from Free/G-sync. I imagine it will be available on all hdmi 2.1 GPUs going forward.

 

[D.P.]

Anandtech article here, TechPowerUp here.

So, they're promising 25% more performance than the Radeon VII when fitted to a PCIe v4 motherboard. That should put them in between the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti. But they demoed it against a RTX 2070. This does not bode well. Unless there are forthcoming RX 5800 and RX 5900 cards coming...

25% more performance per clock than the VEGA 64. The actual performance of course will depend on clock speeds and functional stream processors, us a heap of salt.

Think vega64 to v64+10% at 200-220w and $500

 

[Grim5]

Oh geez lol

I saw this on Reddit but I expected better from the peeps here lol

This benchmark is just showing the bandwidth limitation between gen 3 and gen 4

It will have zero impact on actual games until there is a GPU that has fully saturated gen 3 x16 - and here’s a clue even a Titan RTX does not saturate it

The Navi 5700 should perform exactly the same in a gen 3 and gen 4 motherboard

 

[markoboyo11]

Oh geez lol

I saw this on Reddit but I expected better from the peeps here lol

This benchmark is just showing the bandwidth limitation between gen 3 and gen 4

It will have zero impact on actual games until there is a GPU that has fully saturated gen 3 x16 - and here’s a clue even a Titan RTX does not saturate it

The Navi 5700 should perform exactly the same in a gen 3 and gen 4 motherboard

Think everyone understood that bar 1.

 

[AthlonXP1800]

AMD Radeon RX 5700 Navi series feature 225W and 180W SKUs

https://videocardz.com/80883/amd-radeon-rx-5700-navi-series-feature-225w-and-180w-skus

AMD used a Navi RX 5700 card with 180W TDP to compared with RTX 2070 with 170W TDP.

Imagine RTX 2070 on 7nm shrink will have 90W TDP.

 

[HeX]

Really want to see the Sapphire cards!

 

[Grim5]

AMD Radeon RX 5700 Navi series feature 225W and 180W SKUs

https://videocardz.com/80883/amd-radeon-rx-5700-navi-series-feature-225w-and-180w-skus

AMD used a Navi RX 5700 card with 180W TDP to compared with RTX 2070 with 170W TDP.

Imagine RTX 2070 on 7nm shrink will have 90W TDP.

RTX 2070 with no spec changes on 7nm would be 85w - 7nm offers 50% lower power draw

The current Turing cards done on 7nm you'd be able to put a full size desktop RTX 2080 into those thin laptops and possibly beat a Radeon 7 desktop card lol

 

[Kirby Wurm]

Anandtech article here, TechPowerUp here.

So, they're promising 25% more performance than the Radeon VII when fitted to a PCIe v4 motherboard. That should put them in between the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti. But they demoed it against a RTX 2070. This does not bode well. Unless there are forthcoming RX 5800 and RX 5900 cards coming...

25% greater performance per clock, not 25% increase over the Radeon VII. Big difference.

From the quoted specs it seens AMD have only managed to gain performance per watt parity with a much smaller process. Not a surprise but it indicates how much work they have to do to catch up in that regard.

 

[Gerard]

Remember the days when you could get a card that was 50% faster, now its all x faster per clock, x faster per watt x faster per mm squared bla bla. Always some random caveat that gets slapped on the end so its not clear cut til reviews hit.

 

[Scougar]

WTH is every site now quoting WCCFTech? Urghhhh. why, just why. These sites have zero respect left.