Coming from the "it just works" guy who tried and failed miserably to put over ray tracing as the next big thing with over 90 minutes of him babbling on about it. Really what do you expect him to say? And if the card is indeed on par with 2080 then he's saying that card also has lousy performance.
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Coming from the "it just works" guy who tried and failed miserably to put over ray tracing as the next big thing with over 90 minutes of him babbling on about it. Really what do you expect him to say? And if the card is indeed on par with 2080 then he's saying that card also has lousy performance.
Associate
Tdp an actual are differnt, and we still don't have my real world data for mi50 ye on actual usage do we?
Soldato
Just read that interview. Ugh what an arrogant horrible little man he is.
Associate
Just read that interview and reading the first paragraph and it sounds like they have no plans on turning DLSS on(at the moment?) "And IF we turn on DLSS we’ll crush it" so how come a "we will have DLSS" has now turned into a well maybe we will add it...
Associate
Not really he is doing his job by defending "his" products from the competition shareholders wouldn't be to happy if he bigged the Vega 7 card would they
That would be like tim cook saying the galaxy range of phones are brilliant
It would breed confidence in the shareholders and so on
Soldato
TDP means different things to different companies. Like in cpu's TDP for AMD means maximum power draw at stock speeds whereas for Intel it means more real world expected power draw at stock speeds.
AMD gpus definitely pull more power than Nvidia's comparable models though I am not sure it's by as much as the TDP gap makes it seem.
His 2080 isn't the real 2080, there's one more higher tu104 held back , his point is more along the lines of Amd took Vega shrunk it down to 7nm and can only just about reach a die harvested (rtx2075) in non ray tracing game loads. If the nvidia cheatworks gets activated then yeah they could hurt Amd, just like maxwell did when Amd only had Hawaii.
Don't get me confused, turing is the biggest money grab I have ever seen. But it has also been a clever way for Amd and Nvidia to raise their pricing tiers.
Hmmm, NV 2080 vs Vega II. Personally I'd take the V2. Ray tracing holds no interest for me at all. ray tracing reminds me of my very first 3D card, a Diamond Edge 3D; it was too early tech and there weren't enough games supporting it to make it worthwhile. I returned that card for a Matrox 2D card whihc ran most games faster, until 3D matured a year or two later. So I'd rather take the similar speed, cheaper V2.
Having said that I'm not in the high end card market now (I bought a Vega 64 last year). but my son needs a mid range card soon.
Having said that I'm not in the high end card market now (I bought a Vega 64 last year). but my son needs a mid range card soon.
Ray tracing will be interesting in a few years time if it takes off, right now its too much of a fps hit to be useful.
Soldato
I completely agree which renders the tech basically moot on the current generation of cards. By the time it comes mainstream the cards will not be able to offer enough performance to make them viable.
I have a 1080Ti right now and I imagine both the 2080 and VII would be too little boost to buy but I will wait on reviews.
The problem is it's a similar performance, similar price card. That said, we need to wait for proper reviews. Luckily not long.
What this does confirm, though, is that Navi is mid range or heavily delayed. There's no way AMD will release another high end card this year. So chances are Navi is mid range (The AdoredTV leak suggested 2070 performance which fits).
Associate
And because it seems to have slipped under the radar for some reason, for a limited time (whatever that is) you get 3 games with the card.
Not a bad package overall.
It is if you're upgrading from a Vega
And because it seems to have slipped under the radar for some reason, for a limited time (whatever that is) you get 3 games with the card.
Not a bad package overall.
What are you doing, non of these games have Nvidia tech in it, why would people be interested in it?
Soldato
Jesus there are some sad Nvidia fanboy idiots in here. Without fail the same prize &*#@! come into an AMD GPU thread to spout nonsense time and time again. Momma must be so proud of you complete tools.
About 30% over Vega 64 and over £100 worth of games? That's pretty much the expected performance boost these days. Just have to see what UK pricing translates to.
Associate
Gerard I was on about the games not the card (probs my fault for not being clear )
Caporegime
If we look at the specs it appears to be a Radeon Instinct MI50 rejigged as a gaming card:
https://www.amd.com/en/products/professional-graphics/instinct-mi50
This means around a 331MM2 GPU and 4 stacks of HBM2.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/professional-graphics/instinct-mi50
This means around a 331MM2 GPU and 4 stacks of HBM2.
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