Radical Feminist and SJW's incessant cultural Marxism could create havoc on internet infastructure.

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The EU in its rulers are becoming more and more socialist, again.

Literally no, why would Germany ever allow that?

It's success is capitalist in nature and will continue to be so, France... eh, it's attempting to change begrudgingly. I mean do i really need to explain how LUXEMBOURG PM (That Drunken President of the commission) from a conservative party that made his own tax schemes a little bit more than suspect as being socialist? Holy jesus christ, top kek.
 
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There is no such thing as 'the right sort of socialist' its always an attractive idea, a vote winner of those who don't think, if you take it away from those who have it to give to those who don't in the end no one has it.
 
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Literally no, why would Germany ever allow that?

It's success is capitalist in nature and will continue to be so, France... eh, it's attempting to change begrudgingly. I mean do i really need to explain how LUXEMBOURG PM (That Drunken President of the commission) from a conservative party that made his own tax schemes a little bit more than suspect as being socialist? Holy jesus christ, top kek.

The EU is a high tax area, one because those in charge like high pay and two because they are very much into wealth distribution.
 
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High tax is whatever, their services are better for it, our's is damned dogcrap in comparison.

That is true, but there are limits to wealth distribution through high taxation, take it too far and the wealth creators run like rats fleeing a sinking ship, Germany is lucky to have an economy supported by vast manufacturing conglomerates, if it was more like the UK made up of much smaller individualistic businesses it would have problems.
 
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I really can't be bothered to argue with such deep ignorance. Go read some things, or just spend a few seconds googling it.

The first of your 'Fact checking' link likens those who voted for Trump with Nazis. would you consider yourself one of those more mentally balanced and intelligent people able to listen to a point of view and then debate them if you disagree?
Or are you the sort who is jumping up and down on the side lines screaming Nazi Nazi Nazi at those in political opposition to you? because your linked articles here represents something written by ideological morons.
 
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The first of your 'Fact checking' link likens those who voted for Trump with Nazis.

No, it doesn't. It says that some of supporters of Trump directly align themselves with Nazis. This is indisputably true. Just as its indisputably true that some of the people who supported Brexit directly align themselves with Nazis. That some people who align themselves with a movement also align themselves with Nazis doesn't make everyone who aligns themselves with that movement Nazis.

Personally, I think these people aren't, in fact, Nazis, despite their attempts to align themselves with the movement. Nazi is best kept as a term for a particular movement in Germany. These people are just keeping the long tradition of groups trying to evoke their more notable antecedents whether they're really the same or not (you get the same thing on the left with Corbynistas invoking Attlee when Attlee would likely have loathed Corbyn). They may be Fascists but are more often merely white-supremacists and/or ethno-nationalists.

Trump himself has some similarities to Fascism but, honestly, I don't think he's really capable or coherent enough to be properly identified with a well defined ideology.

Or are you the sort who is jumping up and down on the side lines screaming Nazi Nazi Nazi at those in political opposition to you? because your linked articles here represents something written by ideological morons.

You need to read more carefully.
 
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Has anyone genuinely met a radical feminist in day to day life ? or a die hard SJW (not someone who just believes in the concept of social justice) ? or someone who identifies as a marxist ?

Im pretty left leaning and close to my 40's and I've never come across any of them in my entire life despite mostly socialising with liberals... and yet little dweebs on the internet are telling everyone they are taking over the world, whats that about ?
One of my Uncles was seriously Socialist, as were a lot of his friends, and iirc they didn't think much of Marxism.

I sometimes suspect some people don't grasp that there is a difference between Socialism and Marxism.
 
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I really can't be bothered to argue with such deep ignorance. Go read some things, or just spend a few seconds googling it.

So you think you can solely hide behind other people's arguments you think are convincing?

Well let's see shall we?...

From your snopes link (an increasingly discredited outfit in my view)

In lieu of the socialist ideal of an egalitarian, worker-run state, the National Socialists erected a party-run police state whose governing structure was anti-democratic, rigidly hierarchical, and militaristic in nature. As to the redistribution of wealth, the socialist ideal “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” was rejected in favor of a credo more on the order of “Take everything that belongs to non-Aryans and keep it for the master race.”

Ahh yes..... the socialist ideal of an egalitarian, worker ran state..... Which never ever turns out, in practice, to be a anti democratic, rigidly hierachal, militaristic police state that pretty quickly abandons redistribution of (stolen) wealth based on universal concepts of 'need' in favour of rewarding the party faithful.

Snopes is engaging in the 'no true socialism' fallacy where any (inevitably) failed attempt at socialism can (retrospectively) be said not to be socialism because 'real' socialism is all happiness, light, puppy dog tails, egalitarianism, which is actually ran by the workers (rather then the state) and isn't at all totalitarian or oppressive.....

On to your second link ...

Dan says that the National Socialists were collectivists and self-identified socialists (“the clue is in the name”). I argue that Hitler was in fact a racist who used the language of socialism because it was useful.

Well the authors obviously a bit dense as he can't seem to grasp what the 'National' bit adds to socialism.... Which is collectivism (like 'vanilla' socialism) with the added dynamic that this is based on a national/ethnic identity to the exclusion of outsiders.....

Again we see the 'no true socialism' fallacy deployed in effect here.... Well the Nazi's were racist nationalists so they can't possibly have been socialists as well....

Of course the Socialist goverment in Venezuela (and the useful idiots that supported them) found it very 'useful' to talk about all the supposed nice bits of socialism before they cemented themselves in power and showed themselves to be an anti-democratic, rigidly hierarchical, and militaristic in nature regime.....that gave what little stolen wealth it had left to its choosen people (in this case the party faithful)
 
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Has anyone genuinely met a radical feminist in day to day life ? or a die hard SJW (not someone who just believes in the concept of social justice) ? or someone who identifies as a marxist ?

Im pretty left leaning and close to my 40's and I've never come across any of them in my entire life despite mostly socialising with liberals... and yet little dweebs on the internet are telling everyone they are taking over the world, whats that about ?

Bravo. I don't know, I'm still trying to decide if it's just funny or worrying and slightly maddening. I prefer to laugh though.
 
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No, it doesn't. It says that some of supporters of Trump directly align themselves with Nazis. This is indisputably true. Just as its indisputably true that some of the people who supported Brexit directly align themselves with Nazis. That some people who align themselves with a movement also align themselves with Nazis doesn't make everyone who aligns themselves with that movement Nazis.

Personally, I think these people aren't, in fact, Nazis, despite their attempts to align themselves with the movement. Nazi is best kept as a term for a particular movement in Germany. These people are just keeping the long tradition of groups trying to evoke their more notable antecedents whether they're really the same or not (you get the same thing on the left with Corbynistas invoking Attlee when Attlee would likely have loathed Corbyn). They may be Fascists but are more often merely white-supremacists and/or ethno-nationalists.

Trump himself has some similarities to Fascism but, honestly, I don't think he's really capable or coherent enough to be properly identified with a well defined ideology.



You need to read more carefully.


No ok i'll accept that :)
 
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Has anyone genuinely met a radical feminist in day to day life ? or a die hard SJW (not someone who just believes in the concept of social justice) ? or someone who identifies as a marxist ?

Im pretty left leaning and close to my 40's and I've never come across any of them in my entire life despite mostly socialising with liberals... and yet little dweebs on the internet are telling everyone they are taking over the world, whats that about ?
I have one feminist friend that I cordially agree to disagree with but otherwise no. However, the likes of the BBC make these knob heads seem like an absolute authority by quoting their Twitter posts with a handful of shares and 2 likes in their headline stories.
 
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Not just the BBC, the entire mainstream media is constant and at times a frankly bizarre edifice of SJW virtue signalling, its freaky just how much they have doubled down on that crap since the great 2016 rejection of the status quo.
 
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Not just the BBC, the entire mainstream media is constant and at times a frankly bizarre edifice of SJW virtue signalling, its freaky just how much they have doubled down on that crap since the great 2016 rejection of the status quo.

The media just want clicks and shares. That is why they make 'news' out of random tweets, it riles up the likes of you who then share the story to get more clicks.
 
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The media just want clicks and shares. That is why they make 'news' out of random tweets, it riles up the likes of you who then share the story to get more clicks.

Yep. The non-MSM do exactly the same thing, they just approach the original tweet from the opposite angle.

Maybe they should just close down Twitter. :p
 
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