Ramadan 2014

Arthur Hucksake said:
...and what I also don't understand is the indulgent binges of food at the end. Doesn't that defeat the entire purpose of the event?
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It does yes, which is why the vast majority of people who do this don't really gain much from the fasts imo. It's like a sort of physical test that they carry out and they tick off each day as it passes. Maybe find some shortcuts along the way, book days off work, sleep through as much of the day as possible etc. Eating in moderation and looking after ones health are very important in Islam. Our prophet pbuh was very against eating or drinking excessively, he said 'Nothing is worse than a person who fills his stomach. It should be enough for the son of Adam to have a few bites to satisfy his hunger. If he wishes more, it should be: one-third for his food, one-third for his liquids, and one-third for his breath.'
 
It is a truly special month for me personally and many others for various reasons.

For me it's family unity, life is usually hectic with everyone doing their own thing. For 30 days all me and my extended family get together, cook together and sit down and eat together as one, which we often don't get to do in our normal busy separated lives. Nieces and nephews running around, keeping 4-5 hour fasts (just because they want to feel part of it) all coming together at time of breaking fast.

After fasting we pray together at the mosque, meet people and childhood friends I haven't seen in months. Last year after prayer would meet my school day friends regularly after prayer and just chat into the night catching up.

Diet wise this year I'm going to try to stick to fresh fruit and grilled meats, cut out on bad carbs. No fizzy drinks, sugar etc and get a nice detox going and hopefully lose some weight.

Then you have zakat (charity) to give which is always a nice feeling but many of us usually send the money away abroad and I think it would be nice for more people to help out locally. We have plenty of people in need in this country too so would be nice to donate here too.

Overall it is a bit of escape from it all, a perfect time for reflection and focusing on things that actually truly matter in life.
 
LeeUK said:
We have a thread mocking Mormons, and thread celebrating Ramadan.

So why is one religion OK but the other is not?
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They're two different threads. The Mormon thread is a general discussion about the faith whereas this is about a particular custom of the Islamic faith. Going into the Mormom thread and expressing your views, whether they're unsavoury or not, is more acceptable than coming in this thread and bad-mouthing the religion.
 
I couldn't give a hoot about Ramadan or religion in general but I have to thank it this time round.

Working with a colleague in SA week after next, and he is wanting a seperate hotel room because of it (as he doesn't want to wake me up in the middle of the night, which is kind of him), awesome :-)
 
Dis86 said:
Funny because I'd say murder and paedophilia are worse, but hey, what did he say to do to unbelievers and how old was his Mrs again?
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Oh for God's/Allah's/Odin's/Satan's/Whatever's sake just give it a rest. This thread is for people partaking in the fast to encourage each other and help get through what must be a very challenging time. If you want to engage directly and try your best at poking holes or whatever then feel free to make a separate thread for it.

Be respectful. It isn't hard.
 
phonemonkey said:
Because Catholic priests have nothing to apologise for?

I'm not saying that Islam is perfect or that there aren't problems to be found with some of the followers of Islam. What I am saying is that theirs is not the only religion with demons.

If you look closely at enough big organisations I'm sure you'll find evidence of racism, sexism, homophobia eta.
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I never said you wouldn't. But what we're talking about here are the actions of their second most important religious figure. We're not talking a minor
Priest or mad monk. We're talking the founder. The daddy. The second only to the divine.
 
Dis86 said:
I'm replying to a quote they gave. Pointing out perhaps the fallacy of this task they're undertaking.
Last time I checked this is a forum for discussion. If they don't want to discuss matters then are there not other places it can be posted. Also, any holes in my points raised?
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And what has that got to do with e36Adz comment on a topic about eating and the reasoning behind it?
 
Craterloads said:
And what has that got to do with e36Adz comment on a topic about eating and the reasoning behind it?
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You're not that thick.
The reason he gave is that gluttony was said to be the worst sin a man can commit. I personally would say there are worse things. Would you not disagree that killing people or abusing children is worse than eating a few extra potatoes?
 
Dis86 said:
Funny because I'd say murder and paedophilia are worse, but hey, what did he say to do to unbelievers and how old was his Mrs again?
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Dis86 said:
I'm replying to a quote they gave. Pointing out perhaps the fallacy of this task they're undertaking.
Last time I checked this is a forum for discussion. If they don't want to discuss matters then are there not other places it can be posted. Also, any holes in my points raised?
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You're quite correct. But, it's raising a contrary argument in an unrelated field of the religion than the thread is intended for. What has excess in consumption got to do with the killing of unbelievers and sex with children? Nothing.

It may be a valid point, but it isn't in focus here. This isn't a thread about "Man, it's rather difficult cutting all these heads off within the space of twelve hours! Whew!"

^TANK^ said:
A separate thread was made it got deleted so the prophet burp followers wouldn't be offended.
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That, I disagree with. Though I did see the thread before it disappeared, and the title alone set the tone. I'm not surprised it went. Would anyone perhaps wish to create one entitled "Ramadan Mubarak - Why?", and start an actual discussion rather than something designed to ridicule?
 
Dis86 said:
Funny because I'd say murder and paedophilia are worse, but hey, what did he say to do to unbelievers and how old was his Mrs again?
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Paedophilia? If we're going to judge a 7th century figure on 21st century standards feel free to give your family history. Sure it won't take long to find the paedophiles in your ancestry.
 
Pestilence said:
You're quite correct. But, it's raising a contrary argument in an unrelated field of the religion than the thread is intended for. What has excess in consumption got to do with the killing of unbelievers and sex with children? Nothing.

It may be a valid point, but it isn't in focus here. This isn't a thread about "Man, it's rather difficult cutting all these heads off within the space of twelve hours! Whew!"
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The post I responded to contained a quote from the prophet saying that excess consumption of food is the worst thing a man can do. Did it not?
That quote was presented by an advocate of fasting. Was it not?
That is why my response was provided to the point in focus here. It was to state that perhaps the focus is the wrong one and that the willpower spent on starving oneself could perhaps be put to better use eliminating the far worse issues of murder and child abuse.
 
Pudney said:
Paedophilia? If we're going to judge a 7th century figure on 21st century standards feel free to give your family history. Sure it won't take long to find the paedophiles in your ancestry.
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I wouldn't hold members of my family that abused kids in highest esteem. Would you?
 
Dis86 said:
You're not that thick.
The reason he gave is that gluttony was said to be the worst sin a man can commit. I personally would say there are worse things. Would you not disagree that killing people or abusing children is worse than eating a few extra potatoes?
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Again what has that got to do with the said topic and what e36adz said? He was replying to a specific question on a thread about a specific aspect of a religion...

Replying with something out of context, not accurate and designed to inflame is neither smart or clever. Whilst I'm sure you would like nothing more to drag thread of topic and discuss why you feel islam was led by a murderer and a pedo, this isn't the thread for it.
 
Craterloads said:
Again what has that got to do with the said topic and what e36adz said? He was replying to a specific question on a thread about a specific aspect of a religion...

Replying with something out of context, not accurate and designed to inflame is neither smart or clever. Whilst I'm sure you would like nothing more to drag thread of topic and discuss why you feel islam was led by a murderer and a pedo, this isn't the thread for it.
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What has a quote by your prophet about consumption of food got to do in a thread about followers of your prophet and their (attempted fast) of food?
Fml.
Also, what is inaccurate? How old was his wife? And what was the chosen course of action he dictated for those that didn't follow an Abrahamic religion?
 
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