Ramadan 2014

Pestilence · 28 Jun 2014 at 03:06

Craterloads said:
It is actually both, both outwards and self reflection. Helping the less fortunate is a must during the holy month and a main part of it's focus. Zakat, (charity) is compulsory on all Muslims, 2% of their savings must be given to charity during Ramadan. The whole point of fasting is to feel the pain of those who go hungry everyday, making your remember their struggle resulting you in fortifying your compassion and helping others.

Ah. So then tbyeah's comment is rendered entirely irrelevant?

Do we perhaps have figures as to how much charities benefit during Ramadan?

Craterloads · 28 Jun 2014 at 03:13

Pestilence said:
Ah. So then tbyeah's comment is rendered entirely irrelevant?

Do we perhaps have figures as to how much charities benefit during Ramadan?

I would suggest charities probably receive most during Ramadan than any other month of the year. You have over 1 billion Muslims (how many of those required to donate i'm not sure) donating in the months of Ramadan which is going to be hard to match.

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/uk-mus...ty-during-ramadan/fundraising/article/1189642

£100m in the UK alone last year, and that's with only what 4% of the UK population? Comic relief on the other hand raised £75m by the entire population.

It's not even money alone, it is encouraged to help others in various ways.

Pestilence · 28 Jun 2014 at 03:15

Craterloads said:
I would suggest charities probably receive most during Ramadan than any other month of the year. You have over 1 billion Muslims (how many of those required to donate i'm not sure) donating in the months of Ramadan which is going to be hard to match.

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/uk-mus...ty-during-ramadan/fundraising/article/1189642

£100m in the UK alone last year.

It's not even money alone, it is encouraged to help others in various ways.

Very, very good stuff.

I didn't know about that factor of Ramadan. It's lovely.

The__Malteser · 28 Jun 2014 at 06:43

itchy said:
Look at this a comedy OK!

On Sunday I will be indulging in a bacon butty, its a Sunday thing you know.

I dunno... I just dont know! but each to there own and goodluck.

Saying that there was one time I did not agree......

I used work for the civil service and one time there was ramadan and
the girl was pregnant, she looked really bad at the end of the day.

Which I thought was wrong because the child didnt have clue, so why
impose on a unborn child and cause suffering??

Serious question...

Is ramadan good for you if you pregnant?

I don't think fasting is good in general but it won't kill you wither. It's a (small ?) sacrifice one should/can (?) do to help (?) in having a better afterlife (?).

I'm not quite sure about the religion, hence the number of ?

Freefaller · 28 Jun 2014 at 07:28

Ramadan Mubarak to all our Muslim members.

I followed the fast a few years ago with some Muslim friends. It was tough but the feasts were wonderful. So much celebration!

Very good test of faith. Lent is all I follow in terms of sacrifice and I don't really challenge myself compared to what you guys do especially in the summer!

Freefaller · 28 Jun 2014 at 07:34

Great to see people cannot help themselves and are not able to show a little respect towards others.

I'm a great believer in "if you don't have anything nice to say keep it to yourself". Maybe some of you should exercise the right of respectful silence... Pigs might fly eh?

MrMoonX · 28 Jun 2014 at 07:37

Freefaller said:
Great to see people cannot help themselves and are not able to show a little respect towards others.

I'm a great believer in "if you don't have anything nice to say keep it to yourself". Maybe some of you should exercise the right of respectful silence... Pigs might fly eh?

+1

The ocuk idiot meter must be off the chart in this thread :rolleyes:

Cosimo · 28 Jun 2014 at 08:25

Ramadan Mubarak to all taking part.

Sho · 28 Jun 2014 at 08:32

You'll always have the minority coming into these threads just to detail and show no respect what so ever.

Anyways, last day peeps. It's gonna be a strange feeling tomorrow when we wake up. I'm in work tomorrow as well

first day is always hard, in fact takes few days to get use to it.

scorza · 28 Jun 2014 at 08:34

Haven't read the thread but I'm guessing it's descended into the usual GD mix of vitriol and ignorance, which is tedious to say the least.

'Nuff respect to those fasting, it must take a huge amount of self-discipline. I still say if I was a mussie I'd use the dusk/dawn times in Mecca

Arthur Hucksake · 28 Jun 2014 at 08:42

Good luck to you guys. Questions aside, it can't be easy. Even when you may not to partake, I get the family pressures you face to see it through.

The weather has cooled, so that should help.

Rybo89 · 28 Jun 2014 at 08:48

Ramadan Mubarak.

Without reading into it, is this where you cannot eat through the day but you can scoff your face at night? Can sort of remember the Muslim guy off of Police Interceptors fainting and throwing up after chasing a criminal whilst doing this fasting. Come night time (after 11pm?) he was straight into the Kebab shop ordering the whole menu.

^ might of got this completely wrong as it was a while ago when I seen it. First time I had ever heard of it at the time.

RoboCod · 28 Jun 2014 at 09:13

MonkeyMan said:
Don't know how you guys do it, I get incredibly grumpy without a bit of food at mid day to pick me back up again.

Best of luck to ya

Interestingly, Taliban commanders have given instruction to their minions that they are allowed to eat during Ramadan, in order to allow them to keep their energy levels up now the fighting season is picking up again.

KIA · 28 Jun 2014 at 10:58

20:00

Cop fasting. What could go wrong?

Sho · 28 Jun 2014 at 11:33

Well said

RoboCod · 28 Jun 2014 at 11:54

Sho said:
Well said

I can't watch at work, what does it say?

Sho · 28 Jun 2014 at 11:57

Captain Planet said:
I can't watch at work, what does it say?

The full transcript is below:
I want to send my very best wishes to everyone observing the holy month of Ramadan.
This is an incredibly special time of year for Muslims at home and abroad: a time for charity, for contemplation and community.
Charity is one of the things that Islam is all about. Here in Britain, Muslims are our biggest donors – they give more to charity than any other faith group. We see this spirit of giving all year round, from the mosques running sports clubs for local children to the Muslim groups selling poppies for Remembrance Day, to those people from around the country who put their wellies on, rolled their sleeves up, and went to help the families hit hardest by this winter’s storms.
Ramadan is a time when that spirit comes to the fore and I am so proud when I hear, every year, about the millions of pounds raised for good causes for those less fortunate than us here in Britain, and those who are suffering in wars and in famines overseas.
Ramadan is a time for contemplation to fast, and to pray, and to think deeply about others.
This Ramadan, I hope that we can reflect upon a key aspect of our shared history: the bravery of those who fought and died for our freedoms nearly 100 years ago.
Just days after Eid, we will be marking 100 years since the First World War.
More than a million men and boys from India fought with our troops during that conflict and many thousands of them were Muslims.
They travelled across the world to fight to defend our freedom, guided and sustained by their bravery, comradeship and, above all, by their faith.
Their selflessness and their courage helped to secure the liberties we all enjoy today, so this Ramadan – and this centenary – we will remember them and reflect upon their sacrifice.
Ramadan is a time for community. And there is nothing that exemplifies this more than those nightly iftars when the fast is broken, the dates are opened, and all that great food is served.
Last year I was delighted to see how many community iftars were taking place across the country in mosques and in community centres, in parks and even in tents.
Again this year government is supporting the Big Iftar programme with hundreds more communities, from Leeds to Luton, Woking to Manchester, throwing open their doors so that people of all faiths and none can break bread and get to know their neighbours.
So wherever you are this holy month, I wish you Ramadan Mubarak.

From: Prime Minister's Office, 10 Downing Street
The Rt Hon David Cameron MP

RoboCod · 28 Jun 2014 at 12:01

I want to send my very best wishes to everyone observing the holy month of Ramadan.
This is an incredibly special time of year for Muslims at home and abroad: a time for charity, for contemplation and community.
Charity is one of the things that Islam is all about.

Here in Britain, Muslims are our biggest donors – they give more to charity than any other faith group.
We see this spirit of giving all year round, from the mosques running sports clubs for local children to the Muslim groups selling poppies for Remembrance Day, to those people from around the country who put their wellies on, rolled their sleeves up, and went to help the families hit hardest by this winter’s storms.
Ramadan is a time when that spirit comes to the fore and I am so proud when I hear, every year, about the millions of pounds raised for good causes for those less fortunate than us here in Britain, and those who are suffering in wars and in famines overseas.
Ramadan is a time for contemplation to fast, and to pray, and to think deeply about others.
This Ramadan, I hope that we can reflect upon a key aspect of our shared history: the bravery of those who fought and died for our freedoms nearly 100 years ago.

Just days after Eid, we will be marking 100 years since the First World War.
More than a million men and boys from India fought with our troops during that conflict and many thousands of them were Muslims.
They travelled across the world to fight to defend our freedom, guided and sustained by their bravery, comradeship and, above all, by their faith.
Their selflessness and their courage helped to secure the liberties we all enjoy today, so this Ramadan – and this centenary – we will remember them and reflect upon their sacrifice.
Ramadan is a time for community. And there is nothing that exemplifies this more than those nightly iftars when the fast is broken, the dates are opened, and all that great food is served.
Last year I was delighted to see how many community iftars were taking place across the country in mosques and in community centres, in parks and even in tents.
Again this year government is supporting the Big Iftar programme with hundreds more communities, from Leeds to Luton, Woking to Manchester, throwing open their doors so that people of all faiths and none can break bread and get to know their neighbours.
So wherever you are this holy month, I wish you Ramadan Mubarak.

I sometimes wonder if the "send them back/not in my country" type crowd ever realise these points^. If I'm honest, I did not know about the donating fact.

Sho · 28 Jun 2014 at 12:04

Captain Planet said:
I sometimes wonder if the "send them back/not in my country" type crowd ever realise these points^. If I'm honest, I did not know about the donating fact.

Unfortunately people don't remember and never will. Without the Muslims helping out, it would have been a different world today.

Na it's ok

Us Brown people only claim benefits. We are scroungers. Don't work. Eat Halal food. Don't socialize with other people. Classed as terrorists.. Not good enough.

And the list goes on.

Sho · 28 Jun 2014 at 12:14

PMKeates said:
Are you suggesting that the primary reason people helped out and what to be identified for helping out is because they were Muslim?I think it's quite sad that something so obviously a product of human imagination forms such a fundamental part of people's existence, to the point that nothing could be considered more guiding or sustaining.

proud members of the Commonwealth and that they, implicitly, died for us