ramthor's monster build

Holst1981 said:
If your spending that much on a PC then you would have to be a bit of a numpty to end up with a "bad" spec.

The easiest way to make it "better" is to save some money on a few bits.
32gb of ram, the motherboard and the very large single ssd.
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True, it's just 16GB doesn't sound future proof to me. More is better especially for video editing. The MB I agree is a bit flashy and expensive but I think I need every bit of help when it comes to overclocking this rig and Rampage gives you the proper tools to do it.
The SSD is not single. There are 2 SSDs and one HDD. You can never have too much empty drive space, can you?

I might be tempted to spend more on the case and fans.
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What would you get?

Also the black wd drives are a bit noisy for me.
If its purely backup a quieter drive might be better.
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I considered initially a WD Blue and then I changed my mind after reading a few reviews. Black also gets 5 years warranty as opposed to Blue's 2 years.
Is it considerable more noise with 7200RPM? I reckon they will stay silent until you start using them and I will probably use more the 2TB 850 EVO and the 512GB 950 PRO.
HDD will be used when I watch movies on my TV and probably the sound of the TV will more than cover any noise coming from the HDD.
Post some pics when it's done.
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I will do it even though I fear people will start shouting that I'm showing off just like they did above. And I don't even own the damn thing yet. :)
 
ThaReaperGuy said:
How much 4k video editing will you be doing?

Because without that, you're looking at a pretty standard rig which could be achieved for 50% of the cost.
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Half of £4,200 is £2,100. Titan X is £1,100. You are left with £1,000 to get everything else and still get the same performance as my build. I dare you! :)
 
BluD said:
He asked for peoples opinions on what hes thinking of buying, and people have given their opinions, a lot of them not very helpful but opinions all the same.

If your already decided on buying what youve listed then buy away and enjoy it, if you want advice on a better value list of parts then maybe just start a new thread asking for a 6k build and listing what parts are a must and what its gonna be used for. This thread has just turned into insults and i think your wasting your time here.
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I did come here seeking opinions but not to get insulted. I am kind of disappointed to be honest.
 
ThaReaperGuy said:
I wouldn't recommend a Titan X for a 1440p build.

EDIT: Read the rest of the thread, you know best, sorry.
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You probably refer to 2560x1440 resolution which is more commonly known as 1440p.
My chosen monitor is 3440x1440 which comes in between 1440p and 4K.
To my knowledge, a Titan X can play games at 4K with all FX options enabled but only barely and around 60FPS.
I'm looking to play at 100FPS average with lowest FPS above 60FPS because the monitor allows it and because otherwise would be a waste of a capable monitor.
That's why I chose it and that's why I didn't go for the 4K monitors which clearly need a Titan X SLI without a doubt and that would have brought the costs even higher.
No reason to get sarcastic.
I'm willing to hear your thoughts but I also need a bit of argumentation before I can apply whatever you're suggesting.
 
MorleySA said:
just out of interest, what games are you going to be playing?
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I play all sorts of games, some more demanding than others. All I want is to be able to play them without having to compromise on quality, just like the developers vision.
It's probably every gamer's dream.
And the fact that I've been holding out for 7 years to upgrade has probably something to do with my desire.
 
EVH said:
Worth pointing out that the PSU is most efficient at 50% load.

Given that a typical high end rig uses about 300-400W under load, I'd say 850 to 1000W is fine. If you want to get the 1200W then it's your choice.
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I'd rather lose £20 now than to have to buy a new PSU when/if I decide to go SLI in the future. Also keep in mind I will overclock this bad boy so I need plenty of juice.
Lose the large SSD if all you want it for is OS. A 256GB or even a 128GB would be ample. Would also give you more cash for SSD RAID0 and you could potentially dump the 6TB mechanical drive. Depends how much space you "need".
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As I stated above the m.2 drive is for OS and game installs because I need speed for both my OS and when I load games.
Second SSD is for non-game installs and frequently accessed storage.
HDD is for less frequently accessed storage.
HoneyBadger said:
Wow, can't believe the reception this guy has received. Isn't this forum moderated?

Talk about jealous people.
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I was thinking the same thing.
bigjimmyauk said:
if you wanted 1200w i'd look at the evga P2 1200 watt i have the 1000w version

plenty of aftermarket cables available for it from cablemod and bitfenix comes with a 10 year warranty and has a switchable fan profile~(eco mode) for silence, it's basically a superflower without the silly LED lights.

Plus corsairs link software is a bit buggy and can/is known to cause issues with idle clock behaviour in some sytems
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Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it.

bigjimmyauk said:
because if he's working with large 4k files editing then the natural choice would be to use the m.2 as the buffer before shunting to storage. would increase workflow efficiency. even if it is only a hobby. Besides 256gb is not a large amount these days and once he sees the speed the m.2 offers he's more likely to put other stuff onto the OS drive, just like i did when i had a 250gb ssd and all my games on a mech drive i started putting more and more onto the sdd until i eventually filled it and had to buy another ssd, So why not buy what you can afford now rather than have to splurge more later.
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Exactly. You can't just add another m.2 drive if you need it sometime in the future so you have to go with the biggest you can afford from the get go.
 
Thank you so much for the effort you put into compiling that list. It is appreciated.
lee32uk said:
Are you in a huge rush to build this pc ? I would be inclined to wait for the 1080 ti rather than go with a Pascal Titan X.
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I would also be inclined. Believe me I never thought I would even consider buying a £1,100 GPU. But the reality is here to hit us in the face. nVidia has all the high end market and they can do whatever the hell they want with the prices they're asking.
Now the reality is AMD isn't coming with something competitive until later next year. The price for a decent 1080 is around £750-800. Titan X is £1,100. I can only guess the 1080Ti will be somewhere around £1000.
Is it worth waiting for £200? Maybe yes, but on the other hand the pound gets weaker by the day and all the other prices will go up. Vive already had a price increase just recently. So I'm more inclined to say waiting will not save me too much money.

The XFX XTS is priced pretty well for a 1KW unit. You shouldn't need 1200W even with overclocking.
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I'll look into it.

No need for the 6850K over the 5820K or 6800K. You can still do SLI and run an M.2 SSD.
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I've given a lot of thought deciding between Haswell and Broadwell. They are similar but not quite. One is 2014 tech the other 2016. 22 nm vs 14 nm. I'm not a techie, I have different background and I can't really understand all the technobabble, but from what I read it is better to go with the Broadwell.
Here is one of the articles I read.

The GTX 1080 will run the 1440p Widescreen monitor just fine if you don't want to wait for the ti version. The Pascal Titan X and 1080 ti would be better for 4K to be honest.
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This I also researched extensively and found out 980Ti SLI would be the sweet spot for this monitor. That was before 1080 was launched. Since 980Ti SLI is better then 1080 I expect 1080 to be less than ideal.
On top of that I just found a reply on this forum from a Titan X (old ver) and PG348Q owner. You can find it here, post #156.
 
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crinkleshoes said:
For the OP... if you're dead-set on spending that amount of money on a system, I would change the spec to this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £5,976.72
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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I have changed the motherboard because it's unlikely you will see the benefit of the Asus Rampage Edition 10 and the MSI is very good, plus it also has a similar RGB LED lighting scheme for nearly half the price.

I also changed the SSDs... got rid of the Samsung 2TB and replaced it with 4x 1TB Kingston drives... that way for the same money you can have 4TB SSD storage instead of 2TB
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Intriguing. Thanks for the tip!
I wonder though if the Rampage wouldn't make all the overclock more user-friendly since it has that award winning BIOS and the utilities it has.
 
AdamScott85 said:
Spending 6k on a pc is just silly and you would be wasting at least 3 grand for no extra gains.
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Vargas said:
:D Indeed, spend 3k now and the next 3k to upgrade next year ..
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IvanDobskey said:
6 grand on a PC? Seriously? That's decent second hand car or house deposit money.

Unless you are seriously loaded and money is no object, I'd have a massive rethink.
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So many outraged people feeling the urge to comment here like I'm spending their money but they couldn't be bothered to even read the OP and the configuration listed.

Otherwise they will know the PC itself is actually £4.1K

Here I made it easier for the laziest of you:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £4,102.11
(includes shipping: £15.30)
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Efour said:
You would be extremely dumb to not tide yourself over for 2x 1080ti or the next Titan both probably easily before xmas.
Buying the old ones is really stupid unless 2nd hand
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Agree.
Also, it is extremely stupid and dumb not to read the OP and then comment.
 
bigjimmyauk said:
well said mate i'm sick of people flaming you or the other guy who specced you windows 10 home even tho you stated you needed PRO for the remote log in LOL

I think the rig you pecced is pretty decent i'd only make a few minor changes mainly to the PSU for something with a better warranty like the EVGA P2.

maybe swap the ram out for the corsair LED ( cheaper) or maybe the dominator rog LED( more exspensive) will match the rampage 5 edition 10 pretty well.
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lee32uk said:
The Corsair HXi in his original spec has the same length warranty as the EVGA P2.
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Maybe I am missing something obvious but regarding PSUs, EVGA SuperNova P2 1200W is £234.95 and has a 10 years warranty while Corsair HX1200i 1200W is £219.95 but has 7 years warranty. I wonder if those 3 years make any difference since technology progresses and we will probably need different type of PSUs in 7 years time. But you do have a point and £15 for a 3 years extra warranty is a good deal. Are there any other differences between the 2 of them?

Regarding the RAM I can't seem to find the 32GB version of the Corsair Dominator ROG series. There is only the 16GB version and it says on Corsair's website it is optimized for Intel 100 Series system builds, meaning Z170 chipsets.
 
lee32uk said:
Corsair extended the warranty to 10 years, see link above. You probably wouldn't need that long of a warranty. I would say that 5 years is plenty for a psu.

You should be able to drop 2 x 16GB kits in there. The Dual channel kits are optimised for Skylake, but should still work fine with a quad memory controller on X99. Ask the shop before you order to make sure.
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Is this the kit you are referring to?
It is also described here and Asus Rampage is not mentioned in the supported motherboards list.
It seems like a terrible gamble just for some flashy lights and some marginal performance increase if any.
 
EVH said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £4,974.83
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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Now add another £~1100 for Titan XP (direct from NVidia) and you have a monster PC with 6TB of RAID 0 SSDs (+large M.2 for OS), an amazing monitor and more than enough RAM :cool:
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Thank you for your trouble making this config. It does look nice and I know in single threaded tasks i7 6700K is mildly superior to 6850K. On the other hand you lose 2 cores which can make the difference in DirectX12 and other non-gaming tasks.
I'm not trying to sound posh or offend anyone but since 6700K has integrated graphics it was clearly designed for a different kind of market.
Your config is still a monster of a PC but maybe not as future proof?
 
crinkleshoes said:
If it's a combined build though... I would rather lose a small number of FPS in some games to give way for a 30-50% faster rendering time on video editing.

Even with an overclocked 6950X, it can take an hour to output a 15-20 minute 1080p video at decent bitrate and multi-pass.

I had an overclocked watercooled 6700k build at the start of the year and sold it ahead of the new CPU release with a view to making that change. It really benefits Adobe Lightroom and Premier Pro.
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That's what I was thinking too.
 
jigger said:
Really bad time to spend big money on a PC, that said if you can afford a £6000 console than it looks like you have picked most of the usual suspects apart from a 40" 4K screen.
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If you are referring to the fact that the pound plunges and that makes all imports including PC components more expensive, then it can be either a very bad time (if you think the pound will rise back up) or a very good time (if, like me, think it will get much worse soon).

Other than that, I take it you approve of my build?
 
nick.lidgett said:
Some of you can be really mean to forum noobs.

I remember when I first joined after buying a load of components from OCUK, I think my first thread was title " I cant wait for my bulldozer chip to arrive"

Jeeeeeez I was banged hard, so hard in fact I cancelled my order and got a 2600k and a few other bits one of the guys on here spec'd.

But that's not the point, the point is you can be helpful without being batty holes, a few of you need to kerb the attitude.

OP - I suggest you listen to these folks, even the rude, abrasive ones you wont go far wrong.
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Advice taken. Luckily I have quite a thick skin. :)
 
crinkleshoes said:
It's OK but it's not great... mine struggles to keep the 6950X cool at anything above 4.2GHz.

It managed OK with my 5820k @ 4.5GHz... but 4.625GHz that the CPU could do would get too hot.

It also gets quite loud under load.

You would get better cooling performance and lower noise profile from one of these EK kits and the case you've chosen supports a 360mm radiator in the top:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...0-performance-watercooling-kit-wc-9ad-ek.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...0-performance-watercooling-kit-wc-99d-ek.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...h-performance-watercooling-kit-wc-896-ek.html

Only would need to check for space in case for the x360, possibly p360 too... might be fine, i'm just not sure of the combo.

Or this might be better for a cheaper option:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/raijintek-triton-360mm-aio-water-cooling-solution-hs-025-rt.html
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Thank you for all your tips. It really helps.
I had a look at all your suggestions. To be honest it may not look to you but to me it looks like a lot of hassle not using an all-in-one water cooling solutions.
You know, I do have a job and it is totally unrelated to custom PC building, but it pays for it, so my spare time is somehow limited and precious.
This is why I think I will stick with the Corsair H115i.

I've given some thought regarding the PSU and I researched problems with its Link software. I couldn't find much. I did find that it is quite regularly updated, it provides useful information and it is also used by the Corsair H115i. So if the biggest con is Link software and if this is a common problem and not something isolated to your boss' system, I would have to not only change the PSU to EVGA P2 1200W as you suggested but also find a different cooler.

Can anybody else confirm Corsair's Link software is buggy?
 
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