ramthor's monster build

EVH said:
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If you dump the HTC Vive you can push the system so much further. Obviously, you'd need to substitute the Titan X for a Titan XP.

Oh and if you can stretch another £300 past your budget then you can replace this 8 core CPU and get the 10 core 6950X :D
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Thanks for the config. It is appreciated.
I see you exchanged the Dominator for lower spec Vengeance and Asus PG348Q for lower QC same panel Acer x34. Is it worth for £~150?
I really can't drop the Vive because it is one of the reasons I wanted to build this rig.
Again, it will be an entertainment center and that's why the Vive and the expensive Asus monitor are included in price but many people here do not notice the PC itself is £4.1K.
I will do 4K editing as I want to get into aerial filming but only as a hobby so it will probably not be so very often. That's why I don't want to go big on the CPU. I think 6 cores strikes the right balance between gaming, VR and 4K editing and also making the whole rig a bit more future proof.
I don't know about Haswell-E. I know they have been and still are great CPUs but the fact that they are 2 years old technology puts me off a bit when I'm trying to build something that looks towards the future.

pandem0nium said:
Pics or it didn't happen btw once you get it.
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There will be pics, no worries. :)
Smffy said:
It probably isnt happening.
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It will.
The project has been approved here with your help. It will be modified here and there but stands as a whole.
The budget has been approved by my missus.
Now it is just a matter of spare time to build it. Next 6 weeks I am busy with work so it's probably happening at the beginning of October.
Just as good as I hear Zen will be launching about that time so maybe good ol' Intel will drop its prices. One can only hope.

But anyway, why would you ever be buying a Titan X (not Pascal) in a £6,000 build? Basically you pick everything expensive then add an out of date and over priced GPU - get 2 x 1080s for the money and watch them stomp all over the Titan, or buy the new Titan (not sold on anywhere but Nvidia direct). A single 1080 is also better and a lower cost.
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Again it's not £6K and again it will be the new Titan.

Also a massive SSD is a monumental waste of money, you yourself listed clearly what you want to use it for: M.2 = OS, SSD = program drive... Presume you do not in fact have 2TB of applications installed on your PC. A decent 512GB drive or two of them is a better option. I would guess you would actually end up with M.2 = OS and applications, SSD = games. No need for 2TB really...
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Some people advised here to drop one SSD and others to put some more. I am getting mixed reactions. :)
My thinking was for the EVO to be like a buffer between the M.2 and the HDD, where M.2 will be used to do my video editing, transfer to EVO, keep it there while I'm still messing with it and then off to HDD when I'm tired of it, for safe keeping.
Same I can do when I reinstall Windows on M.2, quick transfer what I still need on EVO and then format c:\

Motherboard: Plenty that look as good for £200 given you have no desire to overclock its another example of money wasted really.
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I did say I will overclock. I will not aim for crazy overclocking though, just something decent.
I opted for Rampage because I like Asus' BIOS, because it is the only ROG x99 Mobo and it will go well with the monitor, because the nearest contender would've been Asus Deluxe II x99 which is not far behind in pricing and Rampage has all its features plus a great semi-onboard sound with DAC 5.25” bay which I need.

lee32uk said:
The op is planning on buying the Pascal version of the Titan X. It has been mentioned many times in the thread.

He is also doing 4K Video Editing.

As for the money aspect, I am sure the op is aware of that. At the end of the day it is His money to spend, and I am sure He is capable of deciding how to spend it.
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This.
Thanks for paying attention. :)
 
melmac said:
Since you have a lot of money to spend, would you consider something like this

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian...ght-adjustable-desk-case-black-ca-747-ll.html

Would be a real showcase. If I had the money I would buy one.

I am also going to go against some of the people here. Do you really need to go watercooling route? Have you a plan in mind? Have you gone watercooling before?
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I'm not really sure you would want something like that. Cases get hot. Personally I don't want to rest my wrists on something hot or even warm in the summer.
Apart from that I like my desk big enough for my other stuff and I don't like glass desktops.
It may seem like I like to waste my money but I assure you I don't. It's not a waste to make your dreams come true if/when you can.
 
crinkleshoes said:
I wouldn't call the Corsair Vengeance LED lower spec.

I has exactly the same timings for the same speed... so that indicates that it's using exactly the same memory chips under the heat spreader.

Unless you prefer the Dominator heat spreader look for your build... I don't think it's worth the extra.
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I wonder if the LEDs from motherboard and the ones from RAM won't make this PC look like a Christmas tree. :)
 
EVH said:
Yes. The timings on the Vengeance are the same as the dominator, so it seems needless to waste extra "just because". Do you want to overclock the RAM?

Also.. a few posts up I recommended the newer Skylake processor and it was stated that you needed more cores for 4k video editing? If you aren't in to serious editing then just get the newer Z170 CPU and the motherboard if you want to futureproof a bit.



Agreed :)
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No, I will not OC the RAM so I guess you two are right. Vengeance it is then. :)
If I was doing pro editing I would've taken the 6950X but I'm not. I don't need 10 cores for a hobby. Not even 8, but 6 cores seems okay to me. It gives me 40 lanes and a decent clock speed for gaming.
 
melmac said:
LOL did you even look at the desk? It doesn't get hot, what BS is that? It's a glass top. A 1.2 metre desk is too small?

If you don't like, just say so, don't make up rubbish.
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From its description:
"Cool air is pulled in through the four front 120mm fans, and warm air is pushed out by the four rear 120mm fan. "
Warm air inside, then. Glass top gets warm.
Or maybe I'm wrong and it's cool.
Either way I don't like it.

And Where did I say you were wasting your money? I don't care how much you spend. Watercooling is a lot of hassle and it sounds like you are buying just to spend.
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Did you hear yourself saying it?
 
Please excuse my ignorance but now I'm confused regarding RAM. I thought I need quad channel and yet your recommendation of Vengeance memory is dual channel.
 
EVH said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £5,763.89
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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So this configuration won't work then because it's not quad channel?
 
EVH said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £5,763.89
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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Any thoughts on H115i vs H110i GT? It seems the saving would be £12 and H115i seems to struggle on high demands anyway as pointed above.
 
lee32uk said:
They are probably about the same performance wise I would guess as they both have 280mm rads.

If you go for a case that supports a 360mm radiator then there is always the EK Predator. Not sure if it has been suggested already.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £226.49
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Guru3d review - http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/ek-predator-360-aio-cpu-gpu-liquid-cooling-review,1.html​
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Thanks for the tip.
I checked it and the review you kindly linked.
Looks nice and it seems effective letting you the option to add future GPU cooling too.
Thing is it is expensive and I don't think I will need that much cooling. 6850K is not the best overclocker under the best circumstances but I didn't chose it for this. I'm not planning to bring down any records. I just want something to suit my needs, reasonably fast and future proof.​
 
crinkleshoes said:
I linked to the custom-build kits but forgot about that one.



The EK Predator will be noticeably quieter than the Corsair and more effective.

As I mentioned... the Corsair was really struggling with my 5820k, let alone the 6950X... so that Predator will really be worth the extra.

When you look at the price difference, it's not massive but will make a large difference to the experience of your PC, dropping the load noise level by a noticeable amount.

The case you specced also has enough space for a 360mm rad at the top near the CPU, so it's an ideal paring with the case you like.

EK are a decent brand too, so you shouldn't have any potential for issues like might be more possible with the Raijinitek or whatever it's called.
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I was wondering regarding the 760T, when I mount any cooler on the top do I also have to take down that top plate cover to let the exhaust, exhaust?
 
crinkleshoes said:
I'm not sure what you're referring to as I haven't seen the case in the flesh.

But usually if a case says it supports a 360mm rad or 3x120mm fans in the top... then you don't have to remove any bits for it to function as designed.
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I also haven't seen it in the flesh and I only chose it because of the numerous positive reviews and the large window. But looking at the pictures both on OcUK and Corsair websites you can see there is like a removable plate on top of the case and in one of the pictures it is actually removed and beneath it it's perforated to let exhaust air out if you fit a fan on top.
At least that's what I got from the pictures. Can anyone confirm it?
 
SherlockHobz said:
Nice build dude but i feel like that power supply is an overkill even if you had 2x titan X's with increased power limits. In the future the TDP will probably lower or stay at 250 and 140 for high end compontants like GPU's and CPU's, similar to the previous generations. I have that mobo, it is extremely sexy. Good luck and all the best ma man.

Will you do a build log?
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Thanks!

I might change that PSU for EVGA 1000W and the cooler for that Predator as advised above.

I'll do a log, of course, and not for show-off but because I value your opinions and I will need every help I can get.
 
Thanks for the tips!

As I've stated above I will start gathering all parts at the beginning of October due to work. I'll use this time to read up about watercooling as my knowledge in this field is quite limited. After I have a good idea of what I'm getting myself into I might decide to go this way and build a custom loop because they do look good and are more efficient.
 
Thank you all for your support!

It is good I kept my composure after the first insult was thrown here and pressed on. I didn't come here looking for praise and I took on board your suggestions. This is why I am seriously considering water cooling now and I read a few guides.

Indeed, it doesn't sound like rocket science and if you are able to put together a computer by yourself you can also build a custom loop.

I found very useful the watercooling configurator here on OcUK and also DiY kits already available with all you need some of them with nice discounts.

I might overstretch my capabilities here but I am more intrigued by the rigid tubing as it looks much smarter and doesn't seem too much of a challenge if you get yourself the proper tools.

I'll keep reading on the subject.
 
agent00x said:
Something maybe worth bearing in mind if you're doing a custom loop and spending this much already, the Enthoo Elite is due to be released next month. It'll be expensive, but it will be a beast of a case, looks like it'll have space for just about anything in it.

Though when overclockers will stock it I do not know.
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Thanks for the tip.

I was already looking for a different case, better suited for water cooling.

CaseLabs are the best I understand but availability is poor in the UK and also the prices seem a bit ridiculous.

I'll see what else is out there to fit my requirements: Full Tower, Aluminium, big window, ease of use.
 
Sorry to disappoint but now I am looking into watercooling which will easily add over £1000 to the original build. And it would kind of be a disgrace to put everything listed above in a case less than a Caselabs' standard.
And since I go there, why the hell would I stop at one Titan XP when I can have 2 and save me the trouble of re-building my loops (plural)?
 
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