ramthor's monster build

crinkleshoes said:
For the OP... if you're dead-set on spending that amount of money on a system, I would change the spec to this:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £5,976.72
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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I have changed the motherboard because it's unlikely you will see the benefit of the Asus Rampage Edition 10 and the MSI is very good, plus it also has a similar RGB LED lighting scheme for nearly half the price.

I also changed the SSDs... got rid of the Samsung 2TB and replaced it with 4x 1TB Kingston drives... that way for the same money you can have 4TB SSD storage instead of 2TB
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Intriguing. Thanks for the tip!
I wonder though if the Rampage wouldn't make all the overclock more user-friendly since it has that award winning BIOS and the utilities it has.
 
crinkleshoes said:
You think I might be able to increase the CPU clock speed by dropping my RAM to 3200? I have it running at 3400 the moment but haven't tried to up the CPU clock by dropping the memory down a bit.

3600 won't boot... so the limit of the IMC appears to be around 3400 ish.
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I'd say so, yeah.

I can run 3400 but only at less than stock frequency. The 6800k is probably bottom of the barrel in terms of binning.
 
pandem0nium said:
Bw-e will be able to handle the specced 3200 ram, its the max you can go to without affecting the overclock.

I don't know the max for hw-e, but I imagine it has a worse Imc.
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You don't really need mega fast ram on X99. I don't think it has the same impact like it does with Skylake.
 
ramthor said:
Intriguing. Thanks for the tip!
I wonder though if the Rampage wouldn't make all the overclock more user-friendly since it has that award winning BIOS and the utilities it has.
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I would say Asus have the best bios up for overclocking. Asus also have a turbo rma service with ocuk whereas MSI could take weeks for an rma.
 
ramthor said:
Intriguing. Thanks for the tip!
I wonder though if the Rampage wouldn't make all the overclock more user-friendly since it has that award winning BIOS and the utilities it has.
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Most boards have idiot proof overclocking (even one touch buttons on the motherboard) so I'd stay away from a £500 board unless it absolutely has something you need.

Generally, as long as it has a decent set of SATA ports, support for enough pcie slots and is reliable (hard to go wrong) the most expensive boards only really come in to play for extreme water or even LN2 overclocking.
 
ramthor said:
Intriguing. Thanks for the tip!
I wonder though if the Rampage wouldn't make all the overclock more user-friendly since it has that award winning BIOS and the utilities it has.
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I do highly rate the Asus bios... but unless you want the RGB lighting or the included headphone DAC... the rampage isn't really worth the extra over the Deluxe II or similar as you get a very similar bios and just about all the same tweaking features. Definitely everything that any novice or intermediate overclocker would require.

It's a great board, the build quality is spectacular and it's a great performer - I have it, so wouldn't generally try to convince you not to get it.

Just the way you phrased things in the OP... I don't think you would benefit from spending the extra cash. If you want it though, get it - as it's definitely the best board on the market. The build quality really surprised me with quite how good it is and I've had some good boards.

I build a Z170 system with the MSI Z170 Gaming Titanium and they also make very good boards. The bios is decent... almost as good as Asus and with your limited overclocking, you will get practically the same performance with the MSI X99 board. I picked the one in the spec I made for you as it has RGB lighting like the Asus, in case that was a feature you wanted. If not, there are other good quality boards too.

Personally I dislike Gigabyte boards as I've had problems with every single Gigabyte board I've ever purchased. But I'm assuming I'm just unlucky as many others have had good experiences.

Overclocking on the Asus and MSI is a very similar experience - so it will be practically as easy on the MSI as it would on the Asus.

pandem0nium said:
I'd say so, yeah.

I can run 3400 but only at less than stock frequency. The 6800k is probably bottom of the barrel in terms of binning.
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OK... when I finish the updated watercooled build I'll do some more playing with that too then, thanks for the tip. It might be better to go 3200 and then get some extra clockspeed from the CPU.

AdamScott85 said:
Spending 6k on a pc is just silly and you would be wasting at least 3 grand for no extra gains.
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It depends on what you want... if I price up my build... I've gone way over that budget.

Asus Swift = £550
Dell 4k = £1000
Asus Rampage Extreme = £500
6950X = £1400
Corsair memory = £200
Corsair PSU = £150
Caselabs SMA8 = £600
Intel 750 1.2TB = £700
Samsung 2TB = £500
2x Sandisk 1TB = 2x £150 = £300
2x Intel 730 512GB = 2x£120 = £240
Samsung SM951 512GB = £250
WD Red 8TB = £300
2x Titan X Pascal = £2200
Total = £8900

Then there are the watercooling bits that are easily another £1500... so over £10k!

It's a lot of money when you think about it.

But when I consider that I spend a lot of time in front of my computer, how I notice the speed improvement of such a high-end system and what that brings to me... price per fun ratio and usage is better than a decent car or something similar...

pandem0nium said:
I would say Asus have the best bios up for overclocking. Asus also have a turbo rma service with ocuk whereas MSI could take weeks for an rma.
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Yes... but then there are other Asus boards with practically identical bios for much less money. For such a level of user as the OP, the Rampage V Ed 10 is only really worht it if you want the RGB function.

Even then, MSI are good.

The RMA function with OcUK is definitely a good feature... just not one I would want to pay twice the price for, personally.

(he says, owning a R5E10)
 
Quartz said:
If you're going for X99 and video editing is important, consider one of these:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £1,794.19
(includes shipping: £8.70)
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I dunno... I would buy the 6950X instead of that thanks to the higher core clock speed for the same price... even though it's "only" 10 core CPU, the higher clock speed per core makes it faster than that Xeon.
 
ramthor said:
Thank you so much for the effort you put into compiling that list. It is appreciated.

I would also be inclined. Believe me I never thought I would even consider buying a £1,100 GPU. But the reality is here to hit us in the face. nVidia has all the high end market and they can do whatever the hell they want with the prices they're asking.
Now the reality is AMD isn't coming with something competitive until later next year. The price for a decent 1080 is around £750-800. Titan X is £1,100. I can only guess the 1080Ti will be somewhere around £1000.
Is it worth waiting for £200? Maybe yes, but on the other hand the pound gets weaker by the day and all the other prices will go up. Vive already had a price increase just recently. So I'm more inclined to say waiting will not save me too much money.


I'll look into it.


I've given a lot of thought deciding between Haswell and Broadwell. They are similar but not quite. One is 2014 tech the other 2016. 22 nm vs 14 nm. I'm not a techie, I have different background and I can't really understand all the technobabble, but from what I read it is better to go with the Broadwell.
Here is one of the articles I read.



This I also researched extensively and found out 980Ti SLI would be the sweet spot for this monitor. That was before 1080 was launched. Since 980Ti SLI is better then 1080 I expect 1080 to be less than ideal.
On top of that I just found a reply on this forum from a Titan X (old ver) and PG348Q owner. You can find it here, post #156.
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I don't think the 1080 ti will be £1000. The ti variants from last gen (980 ti) were a lot cheaper than the old Titan X. My guess would be around £850-£900. They are probably not due out until late in the year though so if you need something now then it is a no go anyway.

You can get a good GTX 1080 for £629 (Gigabyte G1).

The Broadwell-E cpu might give you about 10% extra performance over the Haswell-E version. I have seen a few reports of poor overclocking potential with the Broadwell-E chips though. I don't know if it is just luck of the draw of whether it is the common thing. You would probably get a better answer from the overclocking/8pack section of the forum on that.

A GTX 1080 is more powerful than an old Titan X though. A single GTX 1080 does well at 3440 x 1440 resolution. The link below shows you some game benchmarks. And with your budget you could easily fit 2 x 1080's in there if you wanted.

http://techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review-a-look-at-4k-ultra-wide-gaming/

If you want to go for the Pascal Titan X then it is your call (And money). Whatever you decide on you will have a belting setup (No I am not jealous :D)
 
lee32uk said:
I don't think the 1080 ti will be £1000. The ti variants from last gen (980 ti) were a lot cheaper than the old Titan X. My guess would be around £850-£900. They are probably not due out until late in the year though so if you need something now then it is a no go anyway.

You can get a good GTX 1080 for £629 (Gigabyte G1).

The Broadwell-E cpu might give you about 10% extra performance over the Haswell-E version. I have seen a few reports of poor overclocking potential with the Broadwell-E chips though. I don't know if it is just luck of the draw of whether it is the common thing. You would probably get a better answer from the overclocking/8pack section of the forum on that.

A GTX 1080 is more powerful than an old Titan X though. A single GTX 1080 does well at 3440 x 1440 resolution. The link below shows you some game benchmarks. And with your budget you could easily fit 2 x 1080's in there if you wanted.

http://techgage.com/article/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-review-a-look-at-4k-ultra-wide-gaming/

If you want to go for the Pascal Titan X then it is your call (And money). Whatever you decide on you will have a belting setup (No I am not jealous :D)
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Going by the prices quoted for 1080, it sounds like he is comparing reference Titan X-P (the only one available) to AIB 1080... so a "decent" 1080ti could easily hit the £1000 mark.

1080Ti Founders Edition will probably be £800-900, like you say.

Although £629 for a Gigabyte G1 1080 is a good price compared to founders... although IMO, the new founders cooler is actually better than the cooler on the G1.

As for H-E vs B-E... it depends on the chip... for the 6 and 8 core variants, the older chips seem to be getting a slightly higher overclock which cancels out much of a difference between them. So it's a bit difficult to decide between them in this case... but personally, I like the latest tech, even if it's not a huge improvement over the last gen. It would be a good reason not to upgrade from one generation to the next... but if both are on the market at the same time for not a massive price difference in relation to the build, I would pick the newer tech.
 
6 grand on a PC? Seriously? That's decent second hand car or house deposit money.

Unless you are seriously loaded and money is no object, I'd have a massive rethink.
 
AdamScott85 said:
Spending 6k on a pc is just silly and you would be wasting at least 3 grand for no extra gains.
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Vargas said:
:D Indeed, spend 3k now and the next 3k to upgrade next year ..
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IvanDobskey said:
6 grand on a PC? Seriously? That's decent second hand car or house deposit money.

Unless you are seriously loaded and money is no object, I'd have a massive rethink.
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So many outraged people feeling the urge to comment here like I'm spending their money but they couldn't be bothered to even read the OP and the configuration listed.

Otherwise they will know the PC itself is actually £4.1K

Here I made it easier for the laziest of you:

My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £4,102.11
(includes shipping: £15.30)
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IvanDobskey said:
6 grand on a PC? Seriously? That's decent second hand car or house deposit money.

Unless you are seriously loaded and money is no object, I'd have a massive rethink.
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Maybe OP already has a nice car and a nice house?

Personally, I wouldn't do it mainly because I can't but hey, different strokes for different folks.
 
Well done to you, PC components add up quickly which some seem to forget, I'm probably over 4k myself, with no VR and no Titan :( lol, I have over £600 on a soundcard, speakers and headphones, and others spend twice that, make sure to throw a few pictures up when you do get to building.
 
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