ramthor's monster build

Wowweee. Really dissapointed in the OCUK reaction.

a lot of negativity and barely masked jealousy. Guy wants to build an epic rig, is excited, and a lot of you are trying to take a dump on it for no reason.

Don't feel the need to justify yourself chap, just buy and enjoy.
 
If you are referring to the fact that the pound plunges and that makes all imports including PC components more expensive, then it can be either a very bad time (if you think the pound will rise back up) or a very good time (if, like me, think it will get much worse soon).

Other than that, I take it you approve of my build?

Not just the pound, though I think it will strengthen over the last half of the year and then crash once we start the exit proceedings. Intel CPU's and Nvidia graphics cards prices are bonkers high right now.

It's not how I would spend £6k and I would hold off until the end of the year and had a look at Zen and Vega. But if I was building a money no object system right now it would be based on the latest revision I7 5960X. It silly money but overclocks very well and is the only CPU that makes sense once you remove cost as a factor.
 
My monster build.

CPU: Intel Core i7-5960X
Motherboard: ASRock X99 WS-E/10G EATX. Pricey, but offers 10Gbit networking and would be fantastic with a 10Gbit NAS.
Memory: HyperX Savage 8GB DDR4 2800MHz Intel XMP CL14 DIMM Memory x4

Storage:
Boot drive: Intel DC P3600 800GB PCI-E Solid State Drive or maybe the 1.2TB version.
Bulk drive: Sandisk Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Back up: Samsung 850 PRO 2TB 2.5" Solid State Drive smart cached to a Hitachi Ultrastar 7K3000 2TB 3.5 Speed of the SSD with the reliability of the Ultrastar.

Case: Probably a Thermaltake Core X9.
PSU: Seasonic 1250Watt something.

The monitor would be something 40" and 4K. Possibly the Dell P4317Q or a Korean import Wasabi Mango UHD420. I'm not sure about the Dell.

For the graphics card I would pick up a Fury nano or one of the discounted GTX 980Ti's as a place holder until Vega.

I think thats about the best possible way to spend six thousand quid right now. Hope it helps.
 
Can anybody else confirm Corsair's Link software is buggy?

It's not that it's buggy, its just once you've installed it there is little to no reason to actually use it.

I had my ax860i and a H80i all linked up to it, i didn't change any settings at all other than the colour of the Corsair logo.

It's just another bit of software you don't really need.

It's OK but it's not great... mine struggles to keep the 6950X cool at anything above 4.2GHz.

It managed OK with my 5820k @ 4.5GHz... but 4.625GHz that the CPU could do would get too hot.

It also gets quite loud under load.

You would get better cooling performance and lower noise profile from one of these EK kits and the case you've chosen supports a 360mm radiator in the top:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...0-performance-watercooling-kit-wc-9ad-ek.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...0-performance-watercooling-kit-wc-99d-ek.html

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ek-w...h-performance-watercooling-kit-wc-896-ek.html

Only would need to check for space in case for the x360, possibly p360 too... might be fine, i'm just not sure of the combo.

Or this might be better for a cheaper option:

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/raijintek-triton-360mm-aio-water-cooling-solution-hs-025-rt.html

I agree with this though, the problem with the Broadwell-E CPU's is that they get very hor when you start overclocking. Especially if you are going to use the overclocking profile that comes with the Asus Edition 10 motherboard.

I used the overclocking profile on this motherboard thinking it would be easier, but it didn't change the voltages at all, so the amount i was getting under load was way above what i would deem usable long term.

At that point i went into the settings and changed settings, i was able to acheive a higher overclocker at a lower voltage thus reducing the amount of heating being produced. So if you do intend on overclocking i would advise not to use the overclocked profile that comes with the motherboard.
 
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a lot of negativity and barely masked jealousy. Guy wants to build an epic rig, is excited, and a lot of you are trying to take a dump on it for no reason.
Wouldn't call it jealousy, people including myself were questioning his need to spend so much and still didn't really get a response bar being hostile and sticking to his guns. He's entitled to do whatever he wants. It's not gonna make me lose sleep.

But if we wanna say it's jealousy, I've spent easily as much if not more on my setup. Difference is I take advice from people.
 
Pics or it didn't happen btw once you get it.

It probably isnt happening.

But anyway, why would you ever be buying a Titan X (not Pascal) in a £6,000 build? Basically you pick everything expensive then add an out of date and over priced GPU - get 2 x 1080s for the money and watch them stomp all over the Titan, or buy the new Titan (not sold on anywhere but Nvidia direct). A single 1080 is also better and a lower cost.

Also a massive SSD is a monumental waste of money, you yourself listed clearly what you want to use it for: M.2 = OS, SSD = program drive... Presume you do not in fact have 2TB of applications installed on your PC. A decent 512GB drive or two of them is a better option. I would guess you would actually end up with M.2 = OS and applications, SSD = games. No need for 2TB really...

Motherboard: Plenty that look as good for £200 given you have no desire to overclock its another example of money wasted really.

In short if it does happen then I think you should get the £6k out of your head and you'll find you can build something as good for a few grand less. Enjoy spending the other few grand on something else.
 
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It probably isnt happening.

But anyway, why would you ever be buying a Titan X (not Pascal) in a £6,000 build? Basically you pick everything expensive then add an out of date and over priced GPU - get 2 x 1080s for the money and watch them stomp all over the Titan, or buy the new Titan (not sold on anywhere but Nvidia direct). A single 1080 is also better and a lower cost.

Also a massive SSD is a monumental waste of money, you yourself listed clearly what you want to use it for: M.2 = OS, SSD = program drive... Presume you do not in fact have 2TB of applications installed on your PC. A decent 512GB drive or two of them is a better option. I would guess you would actually end up with M.2 = OS and applications, SSD = games. No need for 2TB really...

In short if it does happen then I think you should get the £6k out of your head and you'll find you can build something as good for a few grand less. Enjoy spending the other few grand on something else.

The op is planning on buying the Pascal version of the Titan X. It has been mentioned many times in the thread.

He is also doing 4K Video Editing.

As for the money aspect, I am sure the op is aware of that. At the end of the day it is His money to spend, and I am sure He is capable of deciding how to spend it.
 
It's not that it's buggy, its just once you've installed it there is little to no reason to actually use it.

I had my ax860i and a H80i all linked up to it, i didn't change any settings at all other than the colour of the Corsair logo.

It's just another bit of software you don't really need.



I agree with this though, the problem with the Broadwell-E CPU's is that they get very hor when you start overclocking. Especially if you are going to use the overclocking profile that comes with the Asus Edition 10 motherboard.

I used the overclocking profile on this motherboard thinking it would be easier, but it didn't change the voltages at all, so the amount i was getting under load was way above what i would deem usable long term.

At that point i went into the settings and changed settings, i was able to acheive a higher overclocker at a lower voltage thus reducing the amount of heating being produced. So if you do intend on overclocking i would advise not to use the overclocked profile that comes with the motherboard.

The profile was a reasonable starting point though... it helped me with things like SA and input voltages... also cpu voltage for the 4.4GHz overclock and then I started tweaking from there.

I think it's only intended to be a starting point rather than a 24/7 profile... but I may be wrong.
 
Thanks for the config. It is appreciated.
I see you exchanged the Dominator for lower spec Vengeance and Asus PG348Q for lower QC same panel Acer x34. Is it worth for £~150?
I really can't drop the Vive because it is one of the reasons I wanted to build this rig.
Again, it will be an entertainment center and that's why the Vive and the expensive Asus monitor are included in price but many people here do not notice the PC itself is £4.1K.
I will do 4K editing as I want to get into aerial filming but only as a hobby so it will probably not be so very often. That's why I don't want to go big on the CPU. I think 6 cores strikes the right balance between gaming, VR and 4K editing and also making the whole rig a bit more future proof.
I don't know about Haswell-E. I know they have been and still are great CPUs but the fact that they are 2 years old technology puts me off a bit when I'm trying to build something that looks towards the future.

Pics or it didn't happen btw once you get it.
There will be pics, no worries. :)
It probably isnt happening.
It will.
The project has been approved here with your help. It will be modified here and there but stands as a whole.
The budget has been approved by my missus.
Now it is just a matter of spare time to build it. Next 6 weeks I am busy with work so it's probably happening at the beginning of October.
Just as good as I hear Zen will be launching about that time so maybe good ol' Intel will drop its prices. One can only hope.

But anyway, why would you ever be buying a Titan X (not Pascal) in a £6,000 build? Basically you pick everything expensive then add an out of date and over priced GPU - get 2 x 1080s for the money and watch them stomp all over the Titan, or buy the new Titan (not sold on anywhere but Nvidia direct). A single 1080 is also better and a lower cost.
Again it's not £6K and again it will be the new Titan.

Also a massive SSD is a monumental waste of money, you yourself listed clearly what you want to use it for: M.2 = OS, SSD = program drive... Presume you do not in fact have 2TB of applications installed on your PC. A decent 512GB drive or two of them is a better option. I would guess you would actually end up with M.2 = OS and applications, SSD = games. No need for 2TB really...
Some people advised here to drop one SSD and others to put some more. I am getting mixed reactions. :)
My thinking was for the EVO to be like a buffer between the M.2 and the HDD, where M.2 will be used to do my video editing, transfer to EVO, keep it there while I'm still messing with it and then off to HDD when I'm tired of it, for safe keeping.
Same I can do when I reinstall Windows on M.2, quick transfer what I still need on EVO and then format c:\

Motherboard: Plenty that look as good for £200 given you have no desire to overclock its another example of money wasted really.
I did say I will overclock. I will not aim for crazy overclocking though, just something decent.
I opted for Rampage because I like Asus' BIOS, because it is the only ROG x99 Mobo and it will go well with the monitor, because the nearest contender would've been Asus Deluxe II x99 which is not far behind in pricing and Rampage has all its features plus a great semi-onboard sound with DAC 5.25” bay which I need.

The op is planning on buying the Pascal version of the Titan X. It has been mentioned many times in the thread.

He is also doing 4K Video Editing.

As for the money aspect, I am sure the op is aware of that. At the end of the day it is His money to spend, and I am sure He is capable of deciding how to spend it.

This.
Thanks for paying attention. :)
 
I wouldn't call the Corsair Vengeance LED lower spec.

I has exactly the same timings for the same speed... so that indicates that it's using exactly the same memory chips under the heat spreader.

Unless you prefer the Dominator heat spreader look for your build... I don't think it's worth the extra.
 
Since you have a lot of money to spend, would you consider something like this

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/lian...ght-adjustable-desk-case-black-ca-747-ll.html

Would be a real showcase. If I had the money I would buy one.

I am also going to go against some of the people here. Do you really need to go watercooling route? Have you a plan in mind? Have you gone watercooling before?

I'm not really sure you would want something like that. Cases get hot. Personally I don't want to rest my wrists on something hot or even warm in the summer.
Apart from that I like my desk big enough for my other stuff and I don't like glass desktops.
It may seem like I like to waste my money but I assure you I don't. It's not a waste to make your dreams come true if/when you can.
 
I wouldn't call the Corsair Vengeance LED lower spec.

I has exactly the same timings for the same speed... so that indicates that it's using exactly the same memory chips under the heat spreader.

Unless you prefer the Dominator heat spreader look for your build... I don't think it's worth the extra.

I wonder if the LEDs from motherboard and the ones from RAM won't make this PC look like a Christmas tree. :)
 
Thanks for the config. It is appreciated.
I see you exchanged the Dominator for lower spec Vengeance and Asus PG348Q for lower QC same panel Acer x34. Is it worth for £~150?
I really can't drop the Vive because it is one of the reasons I wanted to build this rig.
Again, it will be an entertainment center and that's why the Vive and the expensive Asus monitor are included in price but many people here do not notice the PC itself is £4.1K.
I will do 4K editing as I want to get into aerial filming but only as a hobby so it will probably not be so very often. That's why I don't want to go big on the CPU. I think 6 cores strikes the right balance between gaming, VR and 4K editing and also making the whole rig a bit more future proof.
I don't know about Haswell-E. I know they have been and still are great CPUs but the fact that they are 2 years old technology puts me off a bit when I'm trying to build something that looks towards the future.

Yes. The timings on the Vengeance are the same as the dominator, so it seems needless to waste extra "just because". Do you want to overclock the RAM?

Also.. a few posts up I recommended the newer Skylake processor and it was stated that you needed more cores for 4k video editing? If you aren't in to serious editing then just get the newer Z170 CPU and the motherboard if you want to futureproof a bit.

I wouldn't call the Corsair Vengeance LED lower spec.

I has exactly the same timings for the same speed... so that indicates that it's using exactly the same memory chips under the heat spreader.

Unless you prefer the Dominator heat spreader look for your build... I don't think it's worth the extra.

Agreed :)
 

I've got to say, you've nailed it there. The only change I would do it remove the OS and download a copy of 8/10 to a USB and save the pennies. Personally I would go for the Evolv ATX but cases are a personal preference.

Looking forward to seeing this completed, what a monster!!
 
Yes. The timings on the Vengeance are the same as the dominator, so it seems needless to waste extra "just because". Do you want to overclock the RAM?

Also.. a few posts up I recommended the newer Skylake processor and it was stated that you needed more cores for 4k video editing? If you aren't in to serious editing then just get the newer Z170 CPU and the motherboard if you want to futureproof a bit.



Agreed :)

No, I will not OC the RAM so I guess you two are right. Vengeance it is then. :)
If I was doing pro editing I would've taken the 6950X but I'm not. I don't need 10 cores for a hobby. Not even 8, but 6 cores seems okay to me. It gives me 40 lanes and a decent clock speed for gaming.
 
There's nothing wrong with overclocking the RAM, its easily done. Just enable XMP profile which should be more than enough really.
 
I'm not really sure you would want something like that. Cases get hot. Personally I don't want to rest my wrists on something hot or even warm in the summer.
Apart from that I like my desk big enough for my other stuff and I don't like glass desktops.
It may seem like I like to waste my money but I assure you I don't. It's not a waste to make your dreams come true if/when you can.

LOL did you even look at the desk? It doesn't get hot, what BS is that? It's a glass top. A 1.2 metre desk is too small?

If you don't like, just say so, don't make up rubbish.

And Where did I say you were wasting your money? I don't care how much you spend. Watercooling is a lot of hassle and it sounds like you are buying just to spend.
 
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