RC Helicopters

SimonCHere said:
And then crash it in the first 10 second, spend money on the repairs.
Crash in 5 seconds this time as you didn't quite set it up correctly.
More money on repairs.
Fly for a good 30 seconds, into the nearest fence.
Throw it in the bin and move on to something else.

The sim is very worthwhile. and the dx6i will allow you to buy a bigger spektrum model compatible and fly.
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Learn to read all the thread before you jump in next time.
 
ZG002 said:
Learn to read all the thread before you jump in next time.
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Was posting whilst the others posted. Wind your neck in.

You can of course get plenty of other sims FMS, realflight etc some of which are fine, however Phoenix is recomended on most of the rc forums.

I managed to get Phoenix from ebay for £40 as it was mis-listed. I did the "buy a heli and try to fly it" and learnt the hard way it costs a lot for very little flying.

The first heli I got was a 4 channel coax and it was great, I could fly that and thought a fixed pitch was the way to go next.
I went small with the Walkera 4#3 and the pro transmitter. Keep crashing it into things until it was more replacement parts than original.
then I stupidly bought a 4G6 micro cp heli. It faired a little better for a short time but when I crashed it, it was never the same again.

Then I got Phoenix used it for ages and now I can fly my Trex 450 perfectly well. Not like in that vid but plenty for me at the moment.

And if you don't get on with it you can always put i back on ebay for the same price as you bought it for.
 
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You posted a full 15mins after I'd explained the honeybee comes with everything including a sim.

You are going to be paying £200 for a DX6i and Phoenix... That's before you even have any sort of heli to try and fly.

Or £89 on a heli with everything including a sim to help you practice.

I know you guys mean well but £200 is a fair outlay for something you may find hard to get used to and you never even got close to even trying to fly an actual heli or even have one sitting there to admire, Most people would get bored, or rush out after a day or two and buy a heli anyway.

Also if you must use Phoenix sim then this
http://www.heliguy.com/Flight-Simulators/Phoenix-Sim/Mini-DIN-Adapter-Esky,-CoPilot,-etc/ should enable you to give it a go with the Esky transmitter.
 
I was looking to see if the honeybee could be easily converted to use a Spektrum receiver or could be bought bind and fly to use with the Dx6i like the mcpx but it's an all in one board unfortunately.

You are correct though it is a large outlay, but it is the difference between the toy helis and a hobby grade heli/transmitter. If you buy second hand, they don't drop in price much though. My Dx7 was ~£100 second hand a year a go and I could get that on ebay today if I wanted. As I said Phoenix was £40 because I got lucky but it still sells for ~£75.

Good find on that Esky adaptor though.
 
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ZG002 said:
You posted a full 15mins after I'd explained the honeybee comes with everything including a sim.

You are going to be paying £200 for a DX6i and Phoenix... That's before you even have any sort of heli to try and fly.

Or £89 on a heli with everything including a sim to help you practice.

I know you guys mean well but £200 is a fair outlay for something you may find hard to get used to and you never even got close to even trying to fly an actual heli or even have one sitting there to admire, Most people would get bored, or rush out after a day or two and buy a heli anyway.
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you may be correct but the main reason most people give up the heli hobby purely cos they cant afford the cost of crashing all the time. Also after they crashed, they have to wait for at least 3-4 days before getting the spares, crash again after 15 secs etc.

good SIM and good tx together is very useful, so you can programm the pitch curves and throttle curves so you can adjust the flight suited to you. the more practice in phoenix sim, the less crash/less cost of repairs.
 
I will likely myself sometime this year give a honeybee v2 a go. It seems the perfect way to start (no doubt what it's designed for) If I get the bug then I can easy enough sell that kit on and buy a DX6i (and feel the need for one) along with a different heli or just buy the dx6i when the time is right and use it with the honeybee which I think is what you imply Wesley. This stuff used to be feel very un-accessible when I was a lad.
 
wesley said:
yes honeybee v2 will bind with dx6i fine
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No it won't.

You can make it work by removing the receiver board from the Esky 4in1 and replacing it with a Spektrum (or DSM2 compatible, like the Orange Rx) receiver. It's not difficult to do. I've done it on a couple of helis, and while it's not easy to make it look nice and neat, it's not difficult to get it working. Nuttcaze on Youtube has a video on it.
 
I see what you mean about the price of dx6i transmitter, maybe i'll look at the honeybee and look at future mods once i can stop crashing ;)
 
SimonCHere said:
And then crash it in the first 10 second, spend money on the repairs.
Crash in 5 seconds this time as you didn't quite set it up correctly.
More money on repairs.
Fly for a good 30 seconds, into the nearest fence.
Throw it in the bin and move on to something else.

The sim is very worthwhile. and the dx6i will allow you to buy a bigger spektrum model compatible and fly.
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a lot of stores will test and set up whatever you buy before its shipped as a free service.

smart people will learn to fly in a field with long grass and not near any trees or fences and crashing probably wont cause any damage unless they are jamming the power and watching the rotors mow the grass

some of the best 3d sunt fliers in the world say they learned on 6ch helis
 
I have 3 twin rotas, including a 107. I fancied more of a challenge to ordered a Nine Eagles Solo Pro, after reading above I'm very worried I won't be able to fly it at all.
 
Well I have to agree with a sim is the easiest way of learning to fly, but isn't the end all. My first heli was a raptor 30 v2 and i ditched that numerous times, sometimes a set of blades and tail boom at about 30 quid, other times it would cost me 150 quid in parts.

Helis have got cheaper over the years, I had my raptor 9 years ago, and they've come down as electric has got more popular. 3 years ago I decided to get back into helis, and bought a sceadu evo 50, bigger that my raptor and i've flown it a handful of times, due to time constraints and weather. When I did take it out it was hard at first so decided to buy a simulator, aerofly professional deluxe. While it's not as good as that it's still good for getting some time on the sticks, and allows me to keep familar with the controls. Only problem I find is i get bored of the sim, due to it being on a computer.

I then decided to buy a twister cp v2, which is a smallish electric heli, absolutely brilliant, stick it in car and use it at work in sports hall. Can fly it a lot of places where the sceadu won't. I had the twister out earlier in the garden, and all was fine till the wind got hold of it, forgot how light it was and it shot up, managed to control it, but was a reminder of how things can go bad quick.

Out of the helis, I'm toying with building a trex 250 clone, due to it's size, but think a 450 would be better, just struggling to make my mind up. And for people who say helis are expensive, they don't have to be, but when you want better and better, they get real expensive real quick it seems. A new set of blade grips for the sceadu that are alloy are about £60ish, twister about £10.

I'd love a blade msr, due to being able to fly in living room, and twister is too big. well not too big, dog is just too interested in it!!

Now that the rant is over, I encourage everyone to have fun flying and when/if you do crash rebuild and learn from the mistake.
 
funguST said:
I see what you mean about the price of dx6i transmitter, maybe i'll look at the honeybee and look at future mods once i can stop crashing ;)
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You could get a second hand DX6i and if you do not get on with the helicopters, sell it for virtually the same.
Surprised to see no mention of the Blade MCPX here.
Amazing little heli.
 
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