RDNA 3 rumours Q3/4 2022

[humbug]

Maybe they could get away with $1100 for a 7900XT but it'll be the £500-700 price brackets which they need to hit with the 7800XT / 7800 / 7700XT, if they start charging 1k for these then not only will it cost them in the GPU market but I think the negative backlash would also hit the already flagging CPU sales.

I said $1099 for the 7950XT but didn't realise that there is no ##50 in AMD's GPU's, unless you count the refreshes.

So what i meant was $1099 for the 7900XT.

 

[TheRealDeal]

I long for the day when PC was worth putting decent money into. The PC in 2000 (my first gaming pc) was above console in every way along with having a good amount of games that were aaa and only on PC. This has slowly dwindled to today's market where if you want to see the best of aaa you play a console and wait a few years on PC. The PC market is still massive but mainly due to games that could run on a budget PC. Gone are the days where i want new hardware to run anything on PC as most games are tosh and the rest come to console first. Nvidia are having a laugh. When AMD release they will be too. On the plus side m,y mates selling me a 5800x for 140 while upgrading to a 5800x3d. He games at 4k so will see no difference but yea PC lol. Me on the other hand at 1440p should see the benefit over a 2700x and new gen gpu when it comes.

 

[SpudMaster]

One problem for AMD is unless they sell direct in the UK like Nvidia with the FE cards they may struggle to compete on price again unless considerable cheaper as AIBs will just pump the price up again

 

[KompuKare]

One problem for AMD is unless they sell direct in the UK like Nvidia with the FE cards they may struggle to compete on price again unless considerable cheaper as AIBs will just pump the price up again

Yes, for cards at MSRP we'd* even be willing to suffer Digital River!

* Not that I'm in the market for £500+ card, nevermind the £1000 ones.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Well that product launched around $2000 but was abruptly adjusted to market conditions down to $1200 so I think if AMD wants to tear into market share they should just blaze in with £1299 assuming this is trading blows with 4090 at times. That would also mean the 7900XT is cheaper which would obviously be welcome too!

At £1299 you might as well spend a bit more on the 4090, assuming that will be 70%-80% faster than a 3090 Ti.

I said $1099 for the 7950XT but didn't realise that there is no ##50 in AMD's GPU's, unless you count the refreshes.

So what i meant was $1099 for the 7900XT.

Glad we caught up on that one...

The reference 6900XT was $999 so I can't see a 7950XT i.e. premium version/refresh of that end being cheaper considering inflation and weak pound..

 

[gpuerrilla]

A GPU costing any more than 1k is stupid so that's where I think it needs to land, the 7800XT should cost no more than £700 and even then that's still an above inflation markup.

Agree but I think if AMD do drop the "we are a premium brand" and go for volume/market share then I reckon as this tax of 'slightly more to make' that I keep hearing from every expert, then reference price could wll be there. My gut is saying it will likely be £749 and no UK reseller would be another missed open goal from team red again.

 

[Calin Banc]

Lets say the 7950XT is 50% faster than the 3090Ti in Raster and RT how much should it cost?

$699

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

Just a couple of assumptions there!

Certainly not looking to buy anything day one, and more than happy to wait to see what AMD have to offer.

The only thing you are correct about is that I don’t need one, but that doesn’t mean that I won’t potentially buy something once I’ve seen reviews for both Nvidia and AMD.

Are you sure that you don’t have me confused with someone else?

The silence from AMD is frustrating.

Originally I was hoping for a 4090, then the prices were revealed which put me off, now I’ve just seen that MLID video which states the 4090 performance is a massive bump over last gen, just the pricing still an issue, and at the end a whisper that RDNA3 may be competitive.

Give us something please AMD or you’re going to lose a lot of potential customers to Nvidia yet again before they’ve even launched their products.

Nope talking to you. Unless you weren't including yourself in that bolded comment.

 

[uscool]

would be nice if AMD teased something thats if they got something to tease before Nvidia release date

 

[Jay85]

One problem for AMD is unless they sell direct in the UK like Nvidia with the FE cards they may struggle to compete on price again unless considerable cheaper as AIBs will just pump the price up again

This, AMD stopped direct sales since Brexit and it has not opened up since.

 

[HRL]

Nope talking to you. Unless you weren't including yourself in that bolded comment.

Hahaha. No, I wasn’t including myself. I was referring to the day one purchasers.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Nope

Unreal. But accurately outed as going to buy one brand anyway which is why the absurdity of pleads is confusing.

 

[Darujhistan]

I long for the day when PC was worth putting decent money into. The PC in 2000 (my first gaming pc) was above console in every way along with having a good amount of games that were aaa and only on PC. This has slowly dwindled to today's market where if you want to see the best of aaa you play a console and wait a few years on PC. The PC market is still massive but mainly due to games that could run on a budget PC. Gone are the days where i want new hardware to run anything on PC as most games are tosh and the rest come to console first. Nvidia are having a laugh. When AMD release they will be too. On the plus side m,y mates selling me a 5800x for 140 while upgrading to a 5800x3d. He games at 4k so will see no difference but yea PC lol. Me on the other hand at 1440p should see the benefit over a 2700x and new gen gpu when it comes.

There's some niches that you can't really play on console, but i'll be getting a console before I buy another GPU, the edge PC gaming had in my mind is being eroded all the time.

 

[humbug]

would be nice if AMD teased something thats if they got something to tease before Nvidia release date

MLID said the 4090 is 60 to 80% faster than the 3090, not the 3090Ti, that prediction initially came from AMD insiders who predicted that themselves, who also said its what they are aiming against with RDNA 3 and what they can work with, what that means exactly i don't know.

Reviewers he's talking to have confirmed that is bang on, Nvidia's own slides say its on average 65% faster than the 3090Ti, those same reviewers also say its about 100% faster than the 3090 in RT.

I'm saying 50% faster that the 3090 because i think AMD can achieve that at least, i also think the RT performance is still going to lag some way behind the 4090 but will be much better than the 3090.

IMO a lot of reviewers will see that RT performance as not good enough and declare it a damp squib, with that i don't think AMD can charge much more than $1000 and even at that the market share will remain unchanged, the 4090 will be a runaway success and so the 5090 will go up to $1800 if not $2000 with everything below it being pulled up too

They will all say its all AMD's fault, nothing to do with us, and we need Raja to make a Mk3 Vega.

 

[uscool]

my limit for gpu is around £600 mark so whoever is around that and offers better value I'll consider and play at 1440p no chance I'll go 4K and having to spend much more on hardware

 

[gpuerrilla]

I'm saying 50% faster that the 3090 because i think AMD can achieve that at least, i also think the RT performance is still going to lag some way behind the 4090 but will be much better than the 3090.

Will be interested myself in it but probably no urgency for me to change cards this gen. Halfway through the cycle when the prices hopefully drop I could be tempted especially if the RT does beat the 3090.

 

[Calin Banc]

MLID said the 4090 is 60 to 80% faster than the 3090, not the 3090Ti, that prediction initially came from AMD insiders who predicted that themselves, who also said its what they are aiming against with RDNA 3 and what they can work with, what that means exactly i don't know.

Reviewers he's talking to have confirmed that is bang on, Nvidia's own slides say its on average 65% faster than the 3090Ti, those same reviewers also say its about 100% faster than the 3090 in RT.

I'm saying 50% faster that the 3090 because i think AMD can achieve that at least, i also think the RT performance is still going to lag some way behind the 4090 but will be much better than the 3090.

IMO a lot of reviewers will see that RT performance as not good enough and declare it a damp squib, with that i don't think AMD can charge much more than $1000 and even at that the market share will remain unchanged, the 4090 will be a runaway success and so the 5090 will go up to $1800 if not $2000 with everything below it being pulled up too

They will all say its all AMD's fault, nothing to do with us, and we need Raja to make a Mk3 Vega.

If the guys with the money need the performance that 4090 is offering, while AMD can't compete, it doesn't matter that AMD is closer at around $1000. It really doesn't.

Probably AMD will be like like 80-90% or so from the performance of 4090 at around $1200 +/- which will matter too little to matter.
How AMD is going to play its cards in the $250-$399 I'm more interested in. And they should be too if they want to sell enough to increase their market share.

 

[humbug]

Will be interested myself in it but probably no urgency for me to change cards this gen. Halfway through the cycle when the prices hopefully drop I could be tempted especially if the RT does beat the 3090.

Not too bothered about RT yet, i buy in the mid range and its going to take another generation or two for RT to be a default option there.

I just want something with more VRam and a substantial upgrade from my 2070 Super that isn't going to cost me and arm, i don't care what that is or who its from. But the 4060Ti badged as a 4080 12GB for $900 is taking the pee, i hope AMD can better that by some margin.

 

[humbug]

If the guys with the money need the performance that 4090 is offering, while AMD can't compete, it doesn't matter that AMD is closer at around $1000. It really doesn't.

Probably AMD will be like like 80-90% or so from the performance of 4090 at around $1200 +/- which will matter too little to matter.
How AMD is going to play its cards in the $250-$399 I'm more interested in. And they should be too if they want to sell enough to increase their market share.

The problem moves down the whole range tho, its why we now have this absurd situation.

But the 4060Ti badged as a 4080 12GB for $900 is taking the pee

The 6800XT is now $900, because RT and DLSS, i blame tech journalists for this.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Not too bothered about RT yet, i buy in the mid range and its going to take another generation or two for RT to be a default option there.

I just want something with more VRam and a substantial upgrade from my 2070 Super that isn't going to cost me and arm, i don't care what that is or who its from. But the 4060Ti badged as a 4080 12GB for $900 is taking the pee, i hope AMD can better that by some margin.

Im not too bothered about RT either, but all of the stack for nvidia below the 4080 16GB will be a sidegrade/downgrade for me.

I dont need more vram, it has plenty! Although I always keep options open so AMD's high end could be a potential (as they tend to cover enough vram on their hardware). Going to be an interesting generation watching the prices they are commanding drop!