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Re improving wow performance

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Hi there i wish to improve my fps in WoW, below is a list of the components of my pc and if someone is kind enough to tell me if there is a graph card that will up my fps and let me play on near enough max settings. Today i tried Radeon hd 5770 and got no improvement.

CPU- AMD Athlon II x2 245

Motherboard- foxconn M61PMV


Memory- 4GB DDR2

Graph card - NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT 1 GB on board memory


Currently in dala on busy evening i pull 20fps with mid settings i want to max out settings and pull at least 40

thanks for your help. In advance
 
What PSU does your system have?

Also, what resolution do you play at?

As for which graphics card for WoW - I would suggest sticking with Nvidia, as this review seems to show that WoW performs better with Nvidia cards. Perhaps this explains why the 5770 didn't improve framerates as much as you thought it might.
 
Did you try the 9500GT same settings in Dala and got 20 aswell? if so you could try overclocking the cpu as i know that had quite a good benefit in WoW but something is definetly holding you back which could also be your psu though if it's a good brand it will not be.(what brand is it?)

A 5770 should get about 40-45fps there at least maxed except shadows at your res so something is holding it back i think.
 
Is your cpu stock o/c will help wow loves CPU, on max setting in Dalaran at peak hour i get approx 85+FPS at 1920x1200 res. I noticed very little diff going from GTX280 to 1 5870 so i dont hold much regard for wow prefers one card over another:)
 
Ah, ok - so that's not the problem.

Looking at this review - the 5770 should be able to put out ~48FPS @1920x1200 (1080p should be slightly higher).

And this review shows that the slightly faster Athlon II X2 255 can drive WoW at 64FPS. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that the CPU should not be holding back performance much - and that the GPU should be the limiting factor.

Are the Catalyst Drivers for the graphics card up to date? and did you remove the Nvidia drivers?
 
Right, lots of fud in this thread.
To clear it down some, regardless of what the benches, results from 3 years ago etc say, WoW is NOWADAYS, pretty hefty on the system, regardless of how it looks. Dalaran and raids are amongst the most demanding areas in the game, often quartering your framerate over the old cities like Ironforge.

This is NOT because it looks amazing, but because the engine the game is built around is ancient in terms of design, and has to brute force a lot of things that modern engines have either optimised, or load share with the GPU.

The xbit review unfortunately is relatively useless because it doesnt tell you where those scores are taken, performance varies massively in WoW dependant on your system and location.

WoW IS massively CPU limited. I have seen the game scale unilaterily more with CPU upgrades (IPC/Clock speed increases the most rather than cores) than GPU upgrades, although with increases in textures, shadowing, lighting and view distance, the game is much heftier on the GPU than it used to be also.

The game is ALSO largely based 1/2 cores, to see how heavily CPU based the game is, load up task manager, change to the performance tab then load the game and go to dalaran, walk around for 20 seconds, then tab out.

You will likely notice the graphs show heavy load on at least the primary core, and likely the second core. I have seen it mentioned that WoW also to some extent seems to throttle on some systems, so as not to completely max CPU, but either way, the usage and dependancy is high.

In your case it IS possible your unbranded/unknown PSU is not quite as up to the task as you hope, there is a vast amount of difference between a good brand 500W and a poor brand 500w.


So a shorter answer to your question.
1. Try to overclock your processor
2. Make sure your have uninstalled all traces of the Nvidia graphics card drivers
3. Check your PSU.
4. If you cant overclock your CPU, consider upgrading to an I5 etc.

The simple fact as I remember you saying, that dropping shadows from max to min did NOT change your framerate virtually guarantees this is either a system performance issue, or a CPU bottleneck, because the new shadowing system on max shadow settings is about 2-3x more demanding than the lower shadow settings.

Given the game and how demanding/how unoptimised it can be, hoping for 1920x1200 maxed settings in Dalaran (one of the most demanding locations in the game) at over 40fps, with your system, to put it mildly might be a little overoptimistic.
 
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Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt?

I must admit I don't play WoW so I can't advise him 1st hand, but I was only trying to offer some advice based on the reviews and information available - I'm not trying to sell him anything.
 
Nope, I tend to term fud as unfounded information/rumour/information without solid basis, rather than fear uncertainity and doubt :D

Problem with the wow reviews is they dont tell you where the results are taken, this can make a massive difference. Dalaran is one of the most populated areas in the game right now, and because of that the performance is pretty abysmal.
Same as how Ironforge used to be known as Lagforge...same problem, just newer version!
 
ok so to clarify 1 overclock my cpu
2 if not upgrade my processor
3 if not check my psu
thanks for the info havent a clue about overclocking tho ill have to look into it
 
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