Really lost/E6750 + Asrock

conman33158

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Hi Guys,

I’m pretty new to this and having a few problems and I’m sure you experts will be able to put me straight.

I’m using an Asrock ConRoe1333-DVI/H Motherboard and bought an E6750 2.66Ghz Core 2 Duo, but problem is I can only get it clocked to 2.88Ghz and by reading around I can see guys getting 3.5Ghz with ease, so I was just wondering if its maybe me Mobo that’s the problem. I was using a 2.8 GHz Dual Core with the same board before I bought the E6750 and had it clocked without any problems to 3.2 GHz and up to 3.8 GHz before it become unstable.
So here a few things I wrote down that might help.

Bios settings:

Overclock Mode [CPU, PCIE ASync]
CPU Frequency (MHz) [364]
PCIE Frequency (MHz) [120]
VCCM Voltage Auto

Clocked to 2.87GHz.

I’m using 1.5 Gig Memory DDR 2 667
500W PSU
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Heat Pipe Cooler 775
2 Sata HDD, 80gig and 160gig
256 NVIDIA PCI-E Graphics card

If you need any other info I’ll be more than happy to give it to you.

Here is a screen shot as well, if I go 1 notch higher either way it just comes up on the screen after bios to “load bootable media or removable disk and hit any key to try again”

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weescott said:
Hi and welcome :)

I'm not familiar with your motherboard however. I am familiar with clocking the E6750.

Do you have the ram on a divider? Is it within its spec? How many volts have you tried on the CPU etc? What did you do to clock your last chip that isnt working this time? Do you have the latest BIOS for your motherboard?

Edit: Above post post looke more promising.
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I dont have a divider, not that I can find anyhow mate, all I can see is Auto, 233, 667 or something like that.
I cant change the voltage either, man this aint sound too good....lol:)
The only thing I did the last time was up the CPU Frequency and the PCIE Frequency only the setting was on CPU, PCIE, Sync instead of Async and on that setting when you upped the CPU Freq the PCIE went up automatically.
I tried it that way as well and it was the same result.
The Bios is currently at 1.20 and have downloaded 1.70 and as I have no floppy I tried to load on with a CD and a SD Card and tried booting from both but no joy so tomorrow I'll stick a floppy in temporary and update the bios and see if that make any difference.

You guys have been great and sure know your stuff, also thanks for the lighting replies.
If I cant get nowhere with this can you recommend a good board to go with this E6750 chip so I can get the most out of it?

So much for the guy in the shop telling me it was a really good board and was one off the best around, I suppose at the time it probably was as things move that fast in the computer world it pretty hard to keep up not to mention costly :)
 
mp260767 said:
fairly certain async is better and try the pci-e at 100 instead of 120.

for a replacement mobo, depending on the quality of you;'re memory i would go for the EVGA nForce 650i Ultra (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard, this like a lot of the 650 series motherboards allows you to clock the memory and processor seperatly,
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Tried putting the PCI-E to 100 and reboot, monitor wouldnt even come on.
Seems like this board is a dead loss for this chip, I'll update the Bios in a few hours and keep you updated:)
 
I tried everything to upgrade the Bios on this Mobo and no joy, it just won’t boot from the Floppy, USB, CD or an SD Card. The version I have is the original bios with the board v1.20, so I downloaded all the versions 1.30, 1.40, 1.50, 1.60 and 1.70. Tried to go straight to 1.70 with no joy, and then 1.30 and so on and same result every time, it just same "remove media and press any key to restart"
Really sorry I bought this board now I can tell you that.

So today I ordered the EVGA nForce 650i Ultra (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard from overclockers this evening as recommended, I know you said as I haven’t really got good memory I'd be better off with the a P35 Mobo, but I guess I have came this far I'm sure in a week or so I can upgrade my memory as well.
I don't game on the computer at all, just Video Editing, ripping DVD's and encoding, that sort off stuff, so what type off memory would you guys recommend?
Currently using 1.5Ghz Kingston 400Mhz DDR 2 (PC3200)

I also the PSU I am using at the minute is a 500w that came with an old case and is really noisy so I got a CoolerMaster 380W Extreme Power PSU. I haven’t installed it yet but put it on the tester to get it to start the fan and there is no sound off it at all and I thought with the Core 2 Duo using very low power consumption it would be ok, please don’t tell me I wasted more money....lol :)

This was the write up on the PSU:

Introduction

Cooler Master released eXtreme Power 380W which lets your PC operate better and more efficient, with the best power source as it comes into your PC. The green power design meets Energy Star and Blue Angel requirements. It also enhances system reliability by preventing mains abnormal supply from spikes and surges.

Key Features

1. Compliance with the newest Intel standard ATX 12V V2.01
2. More than 70% efficiency at typical load operation
3. High reliability (MTBF > 100,000 hrs)
4. Green power design to meet energy star and blue angel requirements
5. Super silent operation with intelligent fan speed control (20dBA)
6. 120mm fan makes superb heat dissipation
7. OVP / OCP / OTP / Short circuit protection
8. 100% burn-in, hi-pot & ATE tested

Specifications

Type: ATX Form Factor 12V V2.01
Input Voltage: 90~140V / 180~265V (Selectable)
Input Current: 8A @ 115Vac / 5A @ 230Vac
Input Frequency Range: 47 ~ 63 Hz
Fan Sleeve bearing 120mm fan
Power Good Signal: 100 ~ 500 ms
Hold Up Time: 17 ms
Efficiency: 70% typically
MTBF: 100,000 hrs
Protection: OVP / OCP / OPP / Short Circuit Protection
Dimension: Standard ATX 150 x 140 x 86 (mm)
Operation Temperature: 0~40
Safety: Nemko / TUV / cUL / CE / BSMI / FCC / CCC

Hopefully I'll get there in the end :)
 
Concorde Rules said:
Errr, you've just bought a DDR 2 mobo and you have DDR ram.


Your going to need to buy a new set of memory.
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I think if you check my posts again my friend, I wrote "Currently using 1.5Ghz Kingston 400Mhz DDR 2 (PC3200)" and also stated in my first post
"I’m using 1.5 Gig Memory DDR 2 667
500W PSU
Arctic Freezer 7 Pro Heat Pipe Cooler 775
2 Sata HDD, 80gig and 160gig
256 NVIDIA PCI-E Graphics card" :)
 
mp260767 said:
what graphics card have you got ?

sry, think you misuderstood me, because of the memory you mentioned i was recommending the 650 boards , that evga will be very nice.

with the asrock have you had a look at their windows bios update software, i used it on my old dual sata2 without any problems.

for a memory upgrade ballistix 5300 clocks well but being as you have a 650 board u should be able to lock the memory speed so any 5300 or 6400 should be fine.
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I have a PALIT nvidia Ge Force 7100 GS 256mb DDR2
Not sure what you mean about the windows bios update software, is this some sort off programme mate?

Actually I was wrong about my memory, it 1 Kingston 1024MB 667Mhz DDR II Memory (PC5300) and 1 Kingston 512MB 667Mhz DDR II Memory (PC5300)
but as you say, it is still 5300:)

Really glad I joined this site, learning at lightening speed, just sorry I never came here before I bought my other stuff:)
 
Ok guys, my EVGA nForce 650i Ultra (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard has just arrived thanks to OCer's and now the board wont fit into my Case, so gonna head up in to the local PC Shop and take the Mobo with me to get a compatible Case.

Was just wondering, what would be a pretty stable setting for the E6750, not too high say 3.2 or 3.5 with just the memory that I have. Funds are a bit tight now, so gonna check my bank ATM and if I can afford it I'll do what was suggested and get the other 1.5mb Memory.

Man I hate this laptop, what a piece of crap. I'll call back in once I have it build up and the OS in and online and get a few ideas.

Thanks lads, your gentleman, everyone off ya's:)
 
Just bought a case and the guy in the shop said the PSU wont be able to run that board, I told him when I bought the PSU on Thursday what board I was getting and he said it should be ok, I also bought another 1.5mb 667MHz so I take it I put 1 gig in slot 1, 1 gig in slot 3, 512 in slot 2 and 512 in slot 4, sorry guys, a bit new to this, gonna build it up now and see if the PSU powers up and stays stable, or would I just be safer going and getting the 430w same model, as if It dont work I cant get anything till Tuesday cos of the bank holiday.

Cheers
 
Got the System up and running and I havent got a clue what to move, I've never seen anything like this before.

Went into system clocks:
Setting Actual Setting

CPU Freq, MHz 7000.0 2666.7
CPU Multiplier 21X 8X

FSB-Memory Clock Mode [Auto]
FSB Memory Ratio [Auto]
FSB (QDR), MHz [1333] 1333.3
MEM (DDR), MHz 667.7

I set the FSB Memory to link and unlinked and moved it only to 1336 and it wouldnt even reboot, copletely lost with this board guys, not sure what I'm doing.
Can some give me a hand?

Cheers

This is as far as I got, but I have only changed one setting and done know what else to change apart from the voltage, but what is the safe Temp for these E6750?
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mp260767 said:
fsb/memory needs to be UNLINKED, set the memory to 667.

power wise no reason that psu wont work, long as it has all the right power connectors.

temp wise under load i like to keep it at 60, they can be higher just i feel that 60 is a decent temp being as most run in the 40s when idle.

once u unlink the memory u just need to work on the fsb and voltages to get it higher.

use the spd tab off cpu-z to see what memory timings its should have then set them on the mobo, make sure the memory voltage is set okay.
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I just don’t understand why the FSB is showing 2000.0 when not touched and 2250.0 when clocked as high as I can get it on that voltage plus why it says 6X when on the board it says 8X.

Got these Voltages in the Bios:

CPU CORE 1.30v
CPU FSB 1.20V
Memory 1.83v
nForce SSP 1.20v

Is it the Core Voltage I change or the CPU FSB or both?

Sorry for the hassle, I'm really lost with this board.
 
I might just go back to my old board and run at 2.8MHz. Idel temps on this a 40C and ran ConverXtoDVD and temps went up to 125C, something not right there big time.
Just back down to 2.67Mhz its normal setting. Dont want to burn the processor out. Looks as though I spend £90 yesterday for nothing guys, seriously bummed at that:(

Heres it sitting normal with no clock at all and to me the temp still seem too high.

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Concorde Rules said:
Stock cooler?

Using AS5?

Very very VERY bad contact there.

I got to 3.2ghz @ 1.3V using a E6600 on stock cooler.
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Using Arctic Freezer 7 Pro with loads of compound and dont know what AS5 is mate.

Just looked it up, Thermal compound, using Coolmaster Thermal Paste, I think its something to do with the setting on the board, I kept thinging I'm missing something??
 
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I got the FSB up to 1520 by changing to Linked then sync, but temps were 2 high. Also tried to run it at 1550(3.1Ghz) but started to load and just froze so I up the Volt right up to 1.4500 and still nothing and just gave up.

Have it at 1500 running at 3GHz just one thing I still dont understand is why one thing says one thing and the other temp dont match.
I still thing I'm missing something, I see the clocks that you guys have with ease and I cant get past 1520(3Ghz)Compared to a post by rab I'm not even close.
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By the way, I took off all the paste and used the sticker and put the thin layer on and temp dropped straight away. Cheers:)
 
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I dont have these setting:
Advanced Chipset Features -> System Clocks -> PCIe x16_1
Advanced Chipset Features -> System Clocks -> PCIe x16_2
Advanced Chipset Features -> System Clocks -> PCIe x16_3
Advanced Chipset Features -> System Clocks -> MCP<->SPP Ref Clock

Advanced Chipset Features -> FSB & Memory Config -> SLI-Ready Memory

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I have these settings and not sure what they are supposed to be set as:

CPU Internal Cache [Enabled]
MPS Version Control For OS [1.4]
PCIe Bus, Slot 1, MHz [100]
HPET Function [Enable]
Overclocking Recovery [Enabled]
Memory Timing Setting [Optimal]
NVIDIA GPU EX [Enabled]

I tried 1508, 1550, 1570 and system went to boot up, got to Windows Screen for a second and shut down and turned itself off, even when I put my settings back to 1500 it shut down, so had to load default settings and sitting at the 3.0GHz again.

I'm gonna look and see if theres an update Bios Version, heads wrecked over this, but getting there. I think

Heres a couple of screen shots off my Bios maybe I'm still missing something??

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B3.jpg

B4.jpg

B5.jpg

B7.jpg
 
Ok got it running at 1550 (3.1GHz) so getting there. Temp seems a bit high but have to take into considersion the computer has been on from I built it and running on all the wrong setting by the looks off it.

I still have these setting and wondering if you could tell me what to set them at, especially the Intel SpeedStep

CPU Internal Cache [Enabled]
MPS Version Control For OS [1.4]
PCIe Bus, Slot 1, MHz [100]
HPET Function [Enable]
Overclocking Recovery [Enabled]
Memory Timing Setting [Optimal]
NVIDIA GPU EX [Enabled]
Intel SpeedStep[Disabled]

Gonna turn the system off for a while and switch to my groovy laptop which is held together with cable ties and all sorts....lol:)
Just to give it a break.

Really getting somewhere now, you guys are amazing and really know your stuff, I really appreciate all the efford you are going to in helping me out.




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This is what I got so far guys. I dropped the volts from 1.40000 to 1.29375 to get the temp down, just wondering is it ok to keep the volts down while running at a higher speed? Its just that the lower I bring the volts the temp drops a bit lower.
I was just going to keep bringing it down until it becomes unstable then bring it up a bit and run a few stability tests then lock of the memory setting and change to T2.
I will also look for the software "Orthos" and run some tests when I'm done. If I get it stable at 3.2GHz I'd be happy and maybe when I get a bit more convident I'll try bringing it up a bit.
I've took off the cooler and put a thin layer on and it did improve a lot as I had just put a blob on the Heat Sink and popped it on:eek:
 
OK GUYS,

Checked the connections and one corner was a little loose
CheckedConnections.jpg


Took the fan off and checked the heatsink
Tookfanoff.jpg


Now what happened was, instead off when I was putting the paste on, I put the whole sticker on and forgot to take out the middle piece off plastic, I know, I'm a complete tool, but at least I admit it, I could have just said one corner was right out or some crap like that...lol, just lucky I didnt burn out the chip, or even the plastic melting.
Tookfanoff.jpg


So put a thin layer off paste onto the heatsink
Recompound.jpg


So I put the fan on the other way so that the case fan beside it is sucking the hot air out aswell
PutFanonotherway.jpg


And BINGO, new reading in the post below
 
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