really need some advice

Helium_Junkie said:
This isn't about forcing the girl to take a pill, its about a baby. A human life. Try to see the bigger picture.
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Exactly.

Kellee I think you're missing our point here. It isn't one bit connected to what's the law and what's not. It's more to do with what is fair considering the impact on both the life of the parents when it comes to keeping a baby.

Kell_ee001 said:
It's her body. Full stop.

When it's a mans body, he'll get the say.

It's the law and its a basic human right - get over it.
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No one has argued with your point about it being the law. Read the whole thread before posting!
 
kick her in the ovaries - sorry, couldnt resisit :D

Tell her there won't be any support money if she doesnt take that pill! :D

Seriously though, nasty situation. I think an in depth talk is required, you need to talk to see that she understands the implications of having a baby.
 
The baby shouldnt be aborted because he doesnt want it, if he doesnt want a baby and she refuses the pill, then she must be prepared to accept sole responsibility from thereon out.

If she cant do it solo, then that becomes her problem. She knew, while she had the choice not to continue, that she would have to.

Edit: Kell, I mean no offence while discussing this, sorry if I caused any.
 
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Kell_ee001 said:
Never said it was fair, but it is her choice.

They both chose to have sex, they both have to live with the consequences should any occur, but as far as her body is concerned she has the final say.
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BS. If see does turn out to be pregnent, and has carried this on against the will of the father, then IMO the father should not be held liable for any sort of maintenance should he not wish to be involved.

Kell_ee001 said:
It's her body. Full stop.

When it's a mans body, he'll get the say.

It's the law and its a basic human right - get over it.
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Correct! But by doing it against his will they see should forfeit all rights and he should have no ties should he not wish to, IMO.
 
Zefan said:
Read it, and I still don't understand you.
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Doh!

You said "It's more to do with what is fair considering the impact on both the life of the parents" - in post #22 I point out that it' not fair, but that doesn't change and will not change anything.

NiCkNaMe said:
BS. If see does turn out to be pregnent, and has carried this on against the will of the father, then IMO the father should not be held liable for any sort of maintenance should he not wish to be involved.
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Your opinion. You are entitled to it.

Doesn't change anything though ;)
 
Kell_ee001 said:
Doh!

You said "It's more to do with what is fair considering the impact on both the life of the parents" - in post #22 I point out that it' not fair, but that doesn't change and will not change anything,
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I never said it had to change anything. The reason I brought this up was not to change the law.

I know the laws regarding this and am unhappy with them, does that mean I can't bring it up for debate? Repeating the same thing again and again and telling us to read the thread is more than a little patronising and in fact is totally unnecessary as the law does not stop us talking about what we think is right or wrong, which is all we were doing.

Can you not get your head around the idea of individual opinion? I'd love to see you in SC.
 
Helium_Junkie said:
The baby shouldnt be aborted because he doesnt want it, if he doesnt want a baby and she refuses the pill, then she must be prepared to accept sole responsibility from thereon out.

If she cant do it solo, then that becomes her problem. She knew, while she had the choice not to continue, that she would have to.

Edit: Kell, I mean no offence while discussing this, sorry if I caused any.
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Then a disclaimer produced by a solicitor would be required because without this should she become pregnant, she could claim against the father at any time.

I think this possible predicament highlights the problems with the legal side of things.

Neither party was/is trying for a child as contraception was being used.

With an unfortunate breakage of said condom, should a child be the end result, it is of course the womans right to raise the child ( even though the use of precautions indicate it was not the intention).

The father should therefore in my opinion not be held responsible(as he wished to prevent any unwanted child( the womans rights are still unaffected)) unless he so wishes to be.

Men should have rights too
 
Zefan said:
I know the laws regarding this and am unhappy with them, does that mean I can't bring it up for debate?
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This thread is a guy asking for advice on how to talk to his girlfriend, not a thread asking about the implications of abortion.

Zefan said:
I'd love to see you in SC.
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It would probably be a good place for this topic to be brought up tbh.

All I have done here is try and remind people it is not about you - it's about what this guy should and/or can do in the situation he has found himself in.

Helium_Junkie said:
Edit: Kell, I mean no offence while discussing this, sorry if I caused any.
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None taken, I just can't see how it's helping the OP.
 
Kell_ee001 said:
This thread is a guy asking for advice on how to talk to his girlfriend, not a thread asking about the implications of abortion.
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Absolutely, but I feel he should be thinking of these things when talking to her. If he expresses his feelings rather than just "I don't want it... lol" it might help his case.

Kell_ee001 said:
it's about what this guy should and/or can do in the situation he has found himself in.
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We all know that he can't actually do anything about it, but he can try to persuade her to do the right thing which is all I've been trying to highlight.

:EDIT: can't wait for him to come back and tell us the news now.
 
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goreblast said:
Im doing to tidy the garage now, but I will be thinking of you - hope it works out. Good luck.
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Thanks mate I really appreciate it and I’m so sorry to hear of the trouble you and your wife has had.

Well I just got up to hers and we sat in the car for a while talking and she was still quite reluctant to take it, so I pushed quite hard and asked her if she was ready to be a single parent mother that goes to uni at 21. I don’t really know what she had been thinking about before but this seemed to get to her and she finally agreed to take it, so we went to the chemist and went in and got it.

Sat with her and had some lunch after and she seemed to have come to her senses by then although she did seem quite upset but genuinely seemed to think it was the right thing to do. Didn’t have the heart to end things at that point so we just left it at that and I’ll see how things are from here on in.

Such a weight of my mind, I don’t think I slept for more than an hour last night so I think I might grab a few hours kip. Thanks for all the friendly advice and comments though, I appreciate it,

Richie
 
Nice one mate you did the right thing. So did she!

There really should be a male pill because of this sort of thing imo.
 
Kell_ee001 said:
Never said it was fair, but it is her choice.

They both chose to have sex, they both have to live with the consequences should any occur, but as far as her body is concerned she has the final say.
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which poor sod will end up paying though....

imo... a child is brought into the world by 2 people so both should have the say as to whether it does or not.

with it being purely the womans decision it makes you wonder why so many single mums are around?

the guys been unlucky here and taken as many precautions as possible and if shes pregnant he gets nailed to the cross for the rest of his life against his will. and blokes are selfish? :o
 
i dont understand how they split me. ive never split on yet. lube and a correct size for your wanger and you should have no problems!
 
oh yeah, well done to the OP for bringing her round and stopping another drain on the economics of this country. :)





seriously - well done in approaching the subject with a reality check. nice to see talking does still work. :)
 
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