Recommended Anti virus software suite
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I repeat, is it still worth using Cleaner after all these years? Many speak highly of it still.
Also surely Defender on its own cant be the only answer? Not in this day and age of hacking, phissing and all the rest of it, so long as everyone is aware of the danger out there and practises safe Browsing and Downloading, all should be good.
Not saying Defender is bad, its great and the only dedicated AV suite I use now, but I also use some other utilities to streamline my system, Windows own Disk Clean-up tool, find it and drag its icon to your desktop and use it is my recommendation, especially after deleting programs, you would not believe the mess some of them leave behind ... do it thoroughly, there are two options there, second one finds and get rids of the muck the best, but do first option first ... its safe to use and free.
But my first question still stands ,,, Cleaner? Yes or no?
Also surely Defender on its own cant be the only answer? Not in this day and age of hacking, phissing and all the rest of it, so long as everyone is aware of the danger out there and practises safe Browsing and Downloading, all should be good.
Not saying Defender is bad, its great and the only dedicated AV suite I use now, but I also use some other utilities to streamline my system, Windows own Disk Clean-up tool, find it and drag its icon to your desktop and use it is my recommendation, especially after deleting programs, you would not believe the mess some of them leave behind ... do it thoroughly, there are two options there, second one finds and get rids of the muck the best, but do first option first ... its safe to use and free.
But my first question still stands ,,, Cleaner? Yes or no?
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I don’t bother with this stuff any more. Use disk cleanup and wrote my own batch files to cleanup certain parts of the system.
You say you use Disk cleanup and your own batch file to cleanup certain parts of the system, familiar with batch files too from my old DOS days, could you share your batch file/s with us here please GaryTheSnail?
Thanks in advance mate.
Man of Honour
Batch scripts are only as good as the locations the scripts are looking at and the stuff they are looking for. Nobody is that good to be able to batch script out every rogue entry that would be adding to remnant clutter 
That's why I still use a properly configured CCleaner Portable, and manually pass my eyeballs over some key locations around the C drive once a month if I've been playing and uninstalling new games or using various apps or whatever. Uninstallers of these apps and games /always/ leave stuff behind. Each folder location below is grouped by date modified, so new entries are always at the time. Gotta work smart, not hard
I also installed the latest BitDefender Free edition last week as wanted to see how things had moved on with BD given that as of April, AV Comparative's rundown of the most system efficient AV suite put BitDefender high up in the top listings for speed and effectiveness (especially file transfer scanning etc).
Well, file transfer scanning is faster than Windows Defender for sure, but the downside is that other stuff, like actually logging into Windows and waiting for the startup apps inthe tray to load took considerably longer when BitDefender was installed.
(the 4th, 5th and 6th icons are HWINFO64, all 3 load at the same time for ref)
With BitDefender: Over 1 minute to fully load all system tray apps
With Windows Defender: ~20 seconds
This is on a 7000MB/s SSD and a 12700KF CPU for ref.
But that's not the worst part, the worst is when you uninstall BitDefender, it leaves behind the Agent utility running in the BG, you cannot uninstall it because it says it only applies to installed products, and you cannot delete the folder location because the agent is active and set to load bdagent and a Product Agent Service duo of executables via Windows Services and Task Scheduler. So you have to first manually delete those entries (services.msc has to be deleted from the registry), then restart and you are then able to delete the folder location from Program Files for "BitDefener Agent"
The Registry entries were
Nevertheless, since 22H2 of Windows, I have noticed that Windows logon does take longer than 21H2, and others have noticed the same too. It used to be much quicker, the moment I sign into the logon screen, all system tray icons were ready within a few seconds. Not so any more since 22H2, and some tech sites have commented on this as well, although they refernced slower Windows boot times as opposed to being granular about specifically sytsme tray icons. Becaus ethe moment the desktop loads from the longon screen, I can instantaiously load Firefox and be at a webpage, so it's not the slowdown of SSDs on 22H2 or anything like that, it's specific to what's happening with the system tray icons since 22H2.[/ICODE]
That's why I still use a properly configured CCleaner Portable, and manually pass my eyeballs over some key locations around the C drive once a month if I've been playing and uninstalling new games or using various apps or whatever. Uninstallers of these apps and games /always/ leave stuff behind. Each folder location below is grouped by date modified, so new entries are always at the time. Gotta work smart, not hard
I also installed the latest BitDefender Free edition last week as wanted to see how things had moved on with BD given that as of April, AV Comparative's rundown of the most system efficient AV suite put BitDefender high up in the top listings for speed and effectiveness (especially file transfer scanning etc).
Well, file transfer scanning is faster than Windows Defender for sure, but the downside is that other stuff, like actually logging into Windows and waiting for the startup apps inthe tray to load took considerably longer when BitDefender was installed.
(the 4th, 5th and 6th icons are HWINFO64, all 3 load at the same time for ref)
With BitDefender: Over 1 minute to fully load all system tray apps
With Windows Defender: ~20 seconds
This is on a 7000MB/s SSD and a 12700KF CPU for ref.
But that's not the worst part, the worst is when you uninstall BitDefender, it leaves behind the Agent utility running in the BG, you cannot uninstall it because it says it only applies to installed products, and you cannot delete the folder location because the agent is active and set to load bdagent and a Product Agent Service duo of executables via Windows Services and Task Scheduler. So you have to first manually delete those entries (services.msc has to be deleted from the registry), then restart and you are then able to delete the folder location from Program Files for "BitDefener Agent"
The Registry entries were
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Features]
"agent"=""
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\InstallProperties]
"RegOwner"="Bitdefender"
"RegCompany"=""
"ProductID"="none"
"LocalPackage"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\27.0.1.254\\installer"
"AuthorizedCDFPrefix"=""
"Comments"=""
"Contact"=""
"DisplayVersion"="27.0.1.254"
"HelpLink"=""
"InstallLocation"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\"
"InstallSource"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\27.0.1.254\\installer"
"Publisher"="Bitdefender"
"WindowsInstaller"=dword:00000001
"VersionMinor"=dword:00000001
"VersionMajor"=dword:00000010
"Language"=dword:00000409
"DisplayName"="Bitdefender Agent"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Patches]
"AllPatches"=""
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Usage]
"(Default)"=""
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\bdredline_agent]
"Type"=dword:00000010
"Start"=dword:00000002
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):22,00,43,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,\
6d,00,20,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,42,00,69,00,74,00,64,00,65,\
00,66,00,65,00,6e,00,64,00,65,00,72,00,20,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,\
5c,00,72,00,65,00,64,00,6c,00,69,00,6e,00,65,00,5c,00,62,00,64,00,72,00,65,\
00,64,00,6c,00,69,00,6e,00,65,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,22,00,00,00
"DisplayName"="Bitdefender Agent RedLine Service"
"WOW64"=dword:0000014c
"ObjectName"="LocalSystem"
"FailureActions"=hex:80,51,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,14,00,00,\
00,01,00,00,00,60,ea,00,00,01,00,00,00,c0,27,09,00
"DelayedAutostart"=dword:00000001
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ProductAgentService]
"Type"=dword:00000010
"Start"=dword:00000004
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):22,00,43,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,\
6d,00,20,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,42,00,69,00,74,00,64,00,65,\
00,66,00,65,00,6e,00,64,00,65,00,72,00,20,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,\
5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,64,00,75,00,63,00,74,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,\
00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,69,00,63,00,65,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,22,00,\
00,00
"DisplayName"="ProductAgentService"
"WOW64"=dword:0000014c
"ObjectName"="LocalSystem"
"Description"="Bitdefender Product Agent Service"Nevertheless, since 22H2 of Windows, I have noticed that Windows logon does take longer than 21H2, and others have noticed the same too. It used to be much quicker, the moment I sign into the logon screen, all system tray icons were ready within a few seconds. Not so any more since 22H2, and some tech sites have commented on this as well, although they refernced slower Windows boot times as opposed to being granular about specifically sytsme tray icons. Becaus ethe moment the desktop loads from the longon screen, I can instantaiously load Firefox and be at a webpage, so it's not the slowdown of SSDs on 22H2 or anything like that, it's specific to what's happening with the system tray icons since 22H2.[/ICODE]
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I never even knew there was a CCPortable. I've deleted all my scripts and moved over to this now.
ccPortable (local PC cleaner) | PortableApps.com
ccPortable allows you to run CCleaner® without needing to install it. Clean your local PCs registry, temp files, cookies, browser history and more.
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Only reason I didn't use it is because I try to install as least software as possible.
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Man of Honour
Ah I got CC portable from the official piriform website as you have to hunt for it lol, good to see it's updated on portableapps.com though so will switch over to that now since I don't like the piriform website.
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fyiBatch scripts are only as good as the locations the scripts are looking at and the stuff they are looking for. Nobody is that good to be able to batch script out every rogue entry that would be adding to remnant clutter
That's why I still use a properly configured CCleaner Portable, and manually pass my eyeballs over some key locations around the C drive once a month if I've been playing and uninstalling new games or using various apps or whatever. Uninstallers of these apps and games /always/ leave stuff behind. Each folder location below is grouped by date modified, so new entries are always at the time. Gotta work smart, not hard
I also installed the latest BitDefender Free edition last week as wanted to see how things had moved on with BD given that as of April, AV Comparative's rundown of the most system efficient AV suite put BitDefender high up in the top listings for speed and effectiveness (especially file transfer scanning etc).
Well, file transfer scanning is faster than Windows Defender for sure, but the downside is that other stuff, like actually logging into Windows and waiting for the startup apps inthe tray to load took considerably longer when BitDefender was installed.
(the 4th, 5th and 6th icons are HWINFO64, all 3 load at the same time for ref)
With BitDefender: Over 1 minute to fully load all system tray apps
With Windows Defender: ~20 seconds
This is on a 7000MB/s SSD and a 12700KF CPU for ref.
But that's not the worst part, the worst is when you uninstall BitDefender, it leaves behind the Agent utility running in the BG, you cannot uninstall it because it says it only applies to installed products, and you cannot delete the folder location because the agent is active and set to load bdagent and a Product Agent Service duo of executables via Windows Services and Task Scheduler. So you have to first manually delete those entries (services.msc has to be deleted from the registry), then restart and you are then able to delete the folder location from Program Files for "BitDefener Agent"
The Registry entries were
Code:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Features] "agent"="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\InstallProperties] "RegOwner"="Bitdefender" "RegCompany"="" "ProductID"="none" "LocalPackage"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\27.0.1.254\\installer" "AuthorizedCDFPrefix"="" "Comments"="" "Contact"="" "DisplayVersion"="27.0.1.254" "HelpLink"="" "InstallLocation"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\" "InstallSource"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\27.0.1.254\\installer" "Publisher"="Bitdefender" "WindowsInstaller"=dword:00000001 "VersionMinor"=dword:00000001 "VersionMajor"=dword:00000010 "Language"=dword:00000409 "DisplayName"="Bitdefender Agent" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Patches] "AllPatches"="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Usage] "(Default)"=""
Code:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\bdredline_agent] "Type"=dword:00000010 "Start"=dword:00000002 "ErrorControl"=dword:00000001 "ImagePath"=hex(2):22,00,43,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,\ 6d,00,20,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,42,00,69,00,74,00,64,00,65,\ 00,66,00,65,00,6e,00,64,00,65,00,72,00,20,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,\ 5c,00,72,00,65,00,64,00,6c,00,69,00,6e,00,65,00,5c,00,62,00,64,00,72,00,65,\ 00,64,00,6c,00,69,00,6e,00,65,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,22,00,00,00 "DisplayName"="Bitdefender Agent RedLine Service" "WOW64"=dword:0000014c "ObjectName"="LocalSystem" "FailureActions"=hex:80,51,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,14,00,00,\ 00,01,00,00,00,60,ea,00,00,01,00,00,00,c0,27,09,00 "DelayedAutostart"=dword:00000001
Code:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ProductAgentService] "Type"=dword:00000010 "Start"=dword:00000004 "ErrorControl"=dword:00000001 "ImagePath"=hex(2):22,00,43,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,\ 6d,00,20,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,42,00,69,00,74,00,64,00,65,\ 00,66,00,65,00,6e,00,64,00,65,00,72,00,20,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,\ 5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,64,00,75,00,63,00,74,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,\ 00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,69,00,63,00,65,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,22,00,\ 00,00 "DisplayName"="ProductAgentService" "WOW64"=dword:0000014c "ObjectName"="LocalSystem" "Description"="Bitdefender Product Agent Service"
Nevertheless, since 22H2 of Windows, I have noticed that Windows logon does take longer than 21H2, and others have noticed the same too. It used to be much quicker, the moment I sign into the logon screen, all system tray icons were ready within a few seconds. Not so any more since 22H2, and some tech sites have commented on this as well, although they refernced slower Windows boot times as opposed to being granular about specifically sytsme tray icons. Becaus ethe moment the desktop loads from the longon screen, I can instantaiously load Firefox and be at a webpage, so it's not the slowdown of SSDs on 22H2 or anything like that, it's specific to what's happening with the system tray icons since 22H2.[/ICODE]
bitdefender takes time to learn behaviour then the issues mentioned slowly disappear, once it knows you use said app in taskbar 3 times on login it learns that normal & times reduces. think of it bit like running benchmark on old ryzen, the 3rd run is always faster (might be different for free one though, i use total suite & have done for last few months. tested the same as you defender vs BD
service wise you can remove the service via cmd, vs the registry if you need
- sc delete SERVICENAME
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Man of Honour
The problem is that I was using it for a week and the 3 times thing didn't seem to make any difference, along with the slightly increased delay for webpages to load as it scanned websites before loading them. This was a noticeable enough delay whereas Defender is almost instant to load pages.
Top that off with the faff involved with removing the agent which doesn't uninstall by itself when you uninstall the main app, and can't be uninstalled after either as it complains no main app exists, and you cannot uninstall it when the main app is installed because it complains the main app is still active... I'd rather just go back to Defender which basically just works without all the nonsense.
Top that off with the faff involved with removing the agent which doesn't uninstall by itself when you uninstall the main app, and can't be uninstalled after either as it complains no main app exists, and you cannot uninstall it when the main app is installed because it complains the main app is still active... I'd rather just go back to Defender which basically just works without all the nonsense.
Like a poster above, been using AVAST for years. I do check in with various publications every so often to check it is still good enough (generally top 2 or 3) so no issues. Use that along with MalwareBytes and Windows Firewall. I find AVAST is generally very quick and works well in the background when I do entire system scans.
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Yeh I use the one from portable apps.
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Bitdefender has always been heavyBatch scripts are only as good as the locations the scripts are looking at and the stuff they are looking for. Nobody is that good to be able to batch script out every rogue entry that would be adding to remnant clutter
That's why I still use a properly configured CCleaner Portable, and manually pass my eyeballs over some key locations around the C drive once a month if I've been playing and uninstalling new games or using various apps or whatever. Uninstallers of these apps and games /always/ leave stuff behind. Each folder location below is grouped by date modified, so new entries are always at the time. Gotta work smart, not hard
I also installed the latest BitDefender Free edition last week as wanted to see how things had moved on with BD given that as of April, AV Comparative's rundown of the most system efficient AV suite put BitDefender high up in the top listings for speed and effectiveness (especially file transfer scanning etc).
Well, file transfer scanning is faster than Windows Defender for sure, but the downside is that other stuff, like actually logging into Windows and waiting for the startup apps inthe tray to load took considerably longer when BitDefender was installed.
(the 4th, 5th and 6th icons are HWINFO64, all 3 load at the same time for ref)
With BitDefender: Over 1 minute to fully load all system tray apps
With Windows Defender: ~20 seconds
This is on a 7000MB/s SSD and a 12700KF CPU for ref.
But that's not the worst part, the worst is when you uninstall BitDefender, it leaves behind the Agent utility running in the BG, you cannot uninstall it because it says it only applies to installed products, and you cannot delete the folder location because the agent is active and set to load bdagent and a Product Agent Service duo of executables via Windows Services and Task Scheduler. So you have to first manually delete those entries (services.msc has to be deleted from the registry), then restart and you are then able to delete the folder location from Program Files for "BitDefener Agent"
The Registry entries were
Code:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A] [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Features] "agent"="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\InstallProperties] "RegOwner"="Bitdefender" "RegCompany"="" "ProductID"="none" "LocalPackage"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\27.0.1.254\\installer" "AuthorizedCDFPrefix"="" "Comments"="" "Contact"="" "DisplayVersion"="27.0.1.254" "HelpLink"="" "InstallLocation"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\" "InstallSource"="C:\\Program Files\\Bitdefender Agent\\27.0.1.254\\installer" "Publisher"="Bitdefender" "WindowsInstaller"=dword:00000001 "VersionMinor"=dword:00000001 "VersionMajor"=dword:00000010 "Language"=dword:00000409 "DisplayName"="Bitdefender Agent" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Patches] "AllPatches"="" [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Installer\UserData\S-1-5-18\Products\EEDDA26FB4AE7874EADBF7221F52B22A\Usage] "(Default)"=""
Code:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\bdredline_agent] "Type"=dword:00000010 "Start"=dword:00000002 "ErrorControl"=dword:00000001 "ImagePath"=hex(2):22,00,43,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,\ 6d,00,20,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,42,00,69,00,74,00,64,00,65,\ 00,66,00,65,00,6e,00,64,00,65,00,72,00,20,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,\ 5c,00,72,00,65,00,64,00,6c,00,69,00,6e,00,65,00,5c,00,62,00,64,00,72,00,65,\ 00,64,00,6c,00,69,00,6e,00,65,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,22,00,00,00 "DisplayName"="Bitdefender Agent RedLine Service" "WOW64"=dword:0000014c "ObjectName"="LocalSystem" "FailureActions"=hex:80,51,01,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00,14,00,00,\ 00,01,00,00,00,60,ea,00,00,01,00,00,00,c0,27,09,00 "DelayedAutostart"=dword:00000001
Code:Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ProductAgentService] "Type"=dword:00000010 "Start"=dword:00000004 "ErrorControl"=dword:00000001 "ImagePath"=hex(2):22,00,43,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,\ 6d,00,20,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,42,00,69,00,74,00,64,00,65,\ 00,66,00,65,00,6e,00,64,00,65,00,72,00,20,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,00,\ 5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,64,00,75,00,63,00,74,00,41,00,67,00,65,00,6e,00,74,\ 00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,69,00,63,00,65,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,22,00,\ 00,00 "DisplayName"="ProductAgentService" "WOW64"=dword:0000014c "ObjectName"="LocalSystem" "Description"="Bitdefender Product Agent Service"
Nevertheless, since 22H2 of Windows, I have noticed that Windows logon does take longer than 21H2, and others have noticed the same too. It used to be much quicker, the moment I sign into the logon screen, all system tray icons were ready within a few seconds. Not so any more since 22H2, and some tech sites have commented on this as well, although they refernced slower Windows boot times as opposed to being granular about specifically sytsme tray icons. Becaus ethe moment the desktop loads from the longon screen, I can instantaiously load Firefox and be at a webpage, so it's not the slowdown of SSDs on 22H2 or anything like that, it's specific to what's happening with the system tray icons since 22H2.[/ICODE]
Man of Honour
Not from past experience and not from the AV Comparatives reports.
Soldato
Sophos Home worth looking at - https://home.sophos.com/en-us but I currently use ESET. Have also used Bitdefender I'm the past. Also have superantispyware just for adhoc scans.
Associate
Another vote for ESET here. Used for years and it's generally been faultless.
