Red Arrow crashes near Bournemouth

Pigeon_Killer said:
Unless something happened to the pilot mid air I can only assume he didn't eject early because he thought doing so would've put others in danger.
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Yes, he could have been trying to land in the river - emergency water landings aren't exactly unheard of, plus it could do a lot less damage to the plane itself than a CFIT.
 
PermaBanned said:
Yes, he could have been trying to land in the river - emergency water landings aren't exactly unheard of, plus it could do a lot less damage to the plane itself than a CFIT.
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Just being pedantic but a forced landing and CFIT are two completely different things. CFIT is unintentional controlled flight into terrain. A forced landing would be intentional.
 
Scuzi said:
Just being pedantic but a forced landing and CFIT are two completely different things. CFIT is unintentional controlled flight into terrain. A forced landing would be intentional.
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Well i was kind of getting at the fact that the pilot could have ejected the moment something went wrong - which would have meant the plane unintentionally flying into terrain. Then again it wouldn't exactly have been controlled, so i'll just shut up :p
 
I've heard from a third-hand source in the field where the plane crashed that the pilot died. Whether on impact or in the river where the fuselage ended up, I don't know. Awful news. I watched the display only minutes earlier.

I should add that I heard this three hours ago. If the pilot was okay surely they would have announced it by now? A lot of people, myself included, are very worried.
 
PermaBanned said:
Well i was kind of getting at the fact that the pilot could have ejected the moment something went wrong - which would have meant the plane unintentionally flying into terrain. Then again it wouldn't exactly have been controlled, so i'll just shut up :p
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No, you're right! It is very easy for something to go wrong, e.g. a fault with a system, and the pilot can tunnel his attention onto it so much that other tasks such as actually flying the plane, receive less attention. Many CFIT incidents have been caused by this so it's entirely possible.

What I was saying was that if the pilot was aware of a major fault and attempted to make a forced landing in a field or in water, it wouldn't fall under the umbrella of CFIT unless he lost situational awareness and struck the ground unintentionally.


And just to be clear I am not speculating on this particular crash, just being a pedant in general :p
 
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I suspect if there has been a failtality, then the reason it hasn't been officially reported yet is the services will want to inform the family first and not want them to find out from the news reports. As far as I'm aware this is standard procedure.

I really hope that isn't the case, but it doesn't look good. :(
 
Speed said:
I suspect if there has been a failtality, then the reason it hasn't been officially reported yet is the services will want to inform the family first and not want them to find out from the news reports. As far as I'm aware this is standard procedure.

I really hope that isn't the case, but it doesn't look good. :(
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Unfortunately this looks like the case now :(

Really saddening news having watched them only a few weeks ago... A few photos of the event which I took can be found here. Really was amazing watching them and what they do is just incredible. One of the best "british" things that I can think of. Truly amazing.

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So, as far as I know, the plane ditched near the river stour at Throop. Not far from the airport but not near it either. It didn't seem to level out following the right bank. It kind of skimmed across the field and bounced a bit but no signs of an eject. The airshow continued and will continue. Some amatuer radio guy heard the mayday on his radio and the tower confirmed they had received it.

One onlooker told how two young men stripped off and dived into the river to drag the Red Arrows pilot out.

The man, who asked not to be named, was at Throop Mill with two friends when the plane “peeled off” and disappeared behind some trees.

Walking towards the scene, they met an eyewitness. He told the Daily Echo: “The plane had hit the ground on one side of the river, then bounced, flipped and spun a couple of hundred metres.

“The major part of the wreckage landed right on the side of the river close to the waterworks.

“A Sea King helicopter came searching the area and we pointed towards where the wreckage was.”

The area is popular with dog walkers and so a number of people were around to join the search for the pilot.
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