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Red Dead Redemption Thread
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My Postie has been, and no sign of my gameFirst and last time i use The Hut.
Same here, really annoying
Really? They aren't really supposed to get them to you a day early, and you'll just have to wait
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i woke up there to find a card through door with sorry you was out,its deffinilty the game because says the sender on it aswell that extra 20 mins in bed has cost me lol
that extra 20 mins in bed has cost me lol
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ive always used the biggest high street chain for my online orders , never had a problem with them either get my copy a day early or on day of release
Yesterday we reported on the rendering resolution of the PS3 version of Red Dead Redemption. The game has been receiving brilliant reviews, including our own, but the PS3 game isn't graphically on par with the Xbox 360 version.
Its resolution is 640 by 1152, compared to the Xbox 360's 720 by 1280 pixels. At first glance you might say that this is only a difference of "80 pixels," but in reality, when the missing area is calculated, the PS3 suffers an 184,320 pixel deficit - or 20 per cent lower than the Xbox 360 version. This rendering resolution is then upscaled by the PS3 to be displayed on your screen.
This resolution was discovered by the users of the Beyond 3D technical forum. The forum enjoys the input of technically minded enthusiasts as well as game developers, with member Quaz51 making a name for himself as a 'pixel counter'. In the past he has revealed the sub-HD rendering resolutions Halo 3, Haze, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Alan Wake. He even created the now infamous LittleBigPlanet calculator, which inspired Media Molecule's sequel. You can discover the true rendering resolutions of your favourite games in Beyond 3D's handy list.
We'll discuss whether lower than HD resolutions actually matter in another story, but for now it's time to look a little bit closer at the differences between the two platforms.
Red Dead Redemption's lower resolution on the PS3 results in a slightly less-sharp image, as can be seen in the comparison screenshots posted in our gallery. These were provided by another Beyond3D member, MazingerDude, who has since migrated to the NeoGAF gaming forums.
However, it's the return of quincunx anti-aliasing (QAA) on the PS3 that further blurs the image. Anti-aliasing seeks to remove the jagged edges of video game objects, but QAA achieves its results by effectively blurring the whole image. The Xbox 360 uses 2x multi-sampling AA, which specially targets object edges, but requires slightly more processing power.
The differences don't end there with missing objects, less foliage density, and missing shadows further plaguing the PS3 game. MazingerDude, who has access to both versions of the game, details further disparities. On the Xbox 360 trees are well alpha-blended; this combines foreground objects with the background to create the effect of transparency. The PS3 game doesn't achieve the same quality, resulting in trees suffering shimmering artefacts.
There are a number of Level of Detail (LOD) issues on the PS3 game as well, making shadow and texture pop-in more apparent when you approach buildings. You'll even spot missing text on a number of background signs in the PS3 version. Self-shadows on characters are also often missing, which makes character's faces appear a tad flat.
Perhaps most importantly, the framerate of the PS3 game is not up to par. The use of a lower rendering resolution is generally a compromise to allow for a solid framerate, but the PS3 version drops frames more often than the Xbox 360. Nonetheless, the game's average framerate is said to be better than Grand Theft Auto IV and from hands-on reports and reviews, the PS3 version is incredibly playable.
Its resolution is 640 by 1152, compared to the Xbox 360's 720 by 1280 pixels. At first glance you might say that this is only a difference of "80 pixels," but in reality, when the missing area is calculated, the PS3 suffers an 184,320 pixel deficit - or 20 per cent lower than the Xbox 360 version. This rendering resolution is then upscaled by the PS3 to be displayed on your screen.
This resolution was discovered by the users of the Beyond 3D technical forum. The forum enjoys the input of technically minded enthusiasts as well as game developers, with member Quaz51 making a name for himself as a 'pixel counter'. In the past he has revealed the sub-HD rendering resolutions Halo 3, Haze, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Alan Wake. He even created the now infamous LittleBigPlanet calculator, which inspired Media Molecule's sequel. You can discover the true rendering resolutions of your favourite games in Beyond 3D's handy list.
We'll discuss whether lower than HD resolutions actually matter in another story, but for now it's time to look a little bit closer at the differences between the two platforms.
Red Dead Redemption's lower resolution on the PS3 results in a slightly less-sharp image, as can be seen in the comparison screenshots posted in our gallery. These were provided by another Beyond3D member, MazingerDude, who has since migrated to the NeoGAF gaming forums.
However, it's the return of quincunx anti-aliasing (QAA) on the PS3 that further blurs the image. Anti-aliasing seeks to remove the jagged edges of video game objects, but QAA achieves its results by effectively blurring the whole image. The Xbox 360 uses 2x multi-sampling AA, which specially targets object edges, but requires slightly more processing power.
The differences don't end there with missing objects, less foliage density, and missing shadows further plaguing the PS3 game. MazingerDude, who has access to both versions of the game, details further disparities. On the Xbox 360 trees are well alpha-blended; this combines foreground objects with the background to create the effect of transparency. The PS3 game doesn't achieve the same quality, resulting in trees suffering shimmering artefacts.
There are a number of Level of Detail (LOD) issues on the PS3 game as well, making shadow and texture pop-in more apparent when you approach buildings. You'll even spot missing text on a number of background signs in the PS3 version. Self-shadows on characters are also often missing, which makes character's faces appear a tad flat.
Perhaps most importantly, the framerate of the PS3 game is not up to par. The use of a lower rendering resolution is generally a compromise to allow for a solid framerate, but the PS3 version drops frames more often than the Xbox 360. Nonetheless, the game's average framerate is said to be better than Grand Theft Auto IV and from hands-on reports and reviews, the PS3 version is incredibly playable.
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My copy just arrived! Royal Mail arent so bad!
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i woke up there to find a card through door with sorry you was out,its deffinilty the game because says the sender on it aswell
was it royal mail or courier , surely it would fit threw the post box?
Really? They aren't really supposed to get them to you a day early, and you'll just have to wait
But when you get an email Monday saying the game has been despatched, you would be hoping for a Thur delivery
Anyway one more day won't hurt
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was royal mail,it was sent signed for,but i payed for 1 buisness day deliv from amazon so i think thats why it was sent out special delivery.
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quick the postie is aproaching!
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bakes0310 to get sick bum syndrome seconds before the postman shows? 
Squat over a bucket behind the front door.
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got my copy and now im off to work until late
PS3 mate.
meh. Don't get me wrong, they're ok for such a huge game, but not amazing. I'm no graphics whore, so I'm not complaining, but the low and/or stuttery frame rate is more of an issue, that's coming from someone who had no issues with GTA 4.
Skinning your kills is a nice feature, raking the cash in
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PS3 mate.
meh. Don't get me wrong, they're ok for such a huge game, but not amazing. I'm no graphics whore, so I'm not complaining, but the low and/or stuttery frame rate is more of an issue, that's coming from someone who had no issues with GTA 4.
Skinning your kills is a nice feature, raking the cash in
So the framerate is worse than GTA 4? Gah! May have to send it back unopened then as I couldnt stand how poor GTA 4 ran
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anyone who got the normal ps3 version from game , have they got there deadly asassin outfit code yet or is it something that will be emailed out tommorow?