Release Dates - Radeon HD 7000 Series

[arc@css]

Iirc it's Nvidia for the PS3, and AMD for the 360 and Wii.

 

[Owenb]

well, most games will come with optimizations by default for AMD graphics cards. That is the way I see it seeing as these days most games are developed for consoles first and then adapted to PCs.

Not really. In fact the GPU in the 360 is probably closer to Nvidia's current cards than it is to AMD's. It has 48 identical SP, just like all of Nvidia's cards since the 8000 series, whereas AMD have had groups of 1 powerful SP and 4 weaker SP's since the 2900XT.(The current gen is a little different but it still has a mix).

 

[Adster3000]

Not that it matters much anyway, most console ports run terribly. I'm even disappointed at how Skyrim runs. Hasn't stopped me from playing it for close to 80 hours, mind.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Ezyryder is reffering to the fact that theres been plenty of rumours around that amd has a shot at being in all 3 next gen consoles. Amd for a definite have the wii u console gpu.

Nobody can be 100% sure but the new xbox is reported to have a dual amd gpu. I cant see microsoft moving to nv as the xbox gpu was probably stronger than the ps3 nvidia chip from all that i have read.

http://spong.com/article/25755/Next-Gen-Xbox-and-Announcement-for-January-2012-PS4-Shortly-After

There was rumours a while back reporting that sony were not going to use nvidia for there next gen console. I personally think they will go with nv.

Any how amd are in atleast 1 and its probably 100% it will be 2 next gen consoles.

 

[twist3d0n3]

It also depends on how good an eye you have for things. Some people won't notice it even if it's staring them right in the face.

It's like everything really, some people don't notice / care about input delay, just like they don't notice or care about microstutter.

I myself pick up on everything and it annoys the hell out of me, even the slightest niggling thing will render a game unplayable for me. This is why I chose single gpu cards and nvidia. This doesn't mean ATI are bad, just suited for different people.

none of that is relevant to what i've said; it's down to uneven frame output, not how optimised a game is.

 

[Meaker]

none of that is relevant to what i've said; it's down to uneven frame output, not how optimised a game is.

You don't think it's possible though profiles or game optimisations to smooth frame output?

I can't stand Nvidia's implementation because it causes input lag.

 

[twist3d0n3]

You don't think it's possible though profiles or game optimisations to smooth frame output?

I can't stand Nvidia's implementation because it causes input lag.

i'm sure it is possible, but it's not what we're currently dealing with is it

e: if anything, there just needs to be a mechanism in the driver that maintains an even distribution of frames, i don't see why that would have anything to do with optimisations in games.

 

[Meaker]

i'm sure it is possible, but it's not what we're currently dealing with is it

e: if anything, there just needs to be a mechanism in the driver that maintains an even distribution of frames, i don't see why that would have anything to do with optimisations in games.

Because with different engines and such it would be difficult to apply a blanked method to all games.

More smoothing = more input lag

 

[Scooby-DoobyDoo]

Not sure if this has been posted but there is an article here about the 7series.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/...-new-architecture-and-xdr2-rambus-memory.html

 

[Duff-Man]

Because with different engines and such it would be difficult to apply a blanked method to all games.

More smoothing = more input lag

In principle it should be possible, and it should be fairly independent of game-engines for the most part. They key would be tracking frametimes, and adding a small lag to the frame output time, in order to maintain framerate uniformity.

Unfortunately, any method which introduces additional lag will reduce the framerate somewhat. The drop should be relatively small - certainly not so severe as enabling Vsync for example (since the lag will be much smaller than the frametime).

Unless there's a large and vocal demand for it, I don't see AMD or Nvidia investing the time to fix microstutter. If more mainstream media sources investigate and highlight the problem, the we could see a fix. Until then I won't hold my breath.

 

[Brumboy]

If there is a mid range card for about £150 and gives at least a 30% performance increase on my GTX 460 then I'll probably buy one. Hopefully my 460 will be worth at least £80 or something so it'll be a £80 to upgrade to a new generation card! And going by AMD's GPU's, their power consumption will be good so my little 530W PSU can cope!