Religious Help!
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cleanbluesky said:
So sue me if it bothers u that much
. I dont make it a habit to idolise people especially pompous ones at that. I dont eat chocolate....too fattening i find
Virii said:
Damn
ive been caught...masquerading as a muslim when in reality im christian...a brown skinned christian
Btw the comment about putting holes in CBS head sketches were and was a joke...hence the smiley...if you missed that then you really need to go see Specsavers...they are doing some bloody good deals at the moment
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Amleto said:
There are literal translations of the Hebrew 'original', King James bible is one of the later versions which has some glaring errors in it. There are quite a few others but as I'm not a Christian and don't study it couldn't tell you all the others. Most of the different bibles also have different numbers of books in them, having been compiled by many different people over the years. Hence, the 'Word of God' tm has been a tad corrupted over the centuries.
Different sects use different versions.....
WIBSBOT said:There are literal translations of the Hebrew 'original', King James bible is one of the later versions which has some glaring errors in it. There are quite a few others but as I'm not a Christian and don't study it couldn't tell you all the others. Most of the different bibles also have different numbers of books in them, having been compiled by many different people over the years. Hence, the 'Word of God' tm has been a tad corrupted over the centuries.
Different sects use different versions.....
There are a couple of translation errors in KJ. It is not the most popular version though.
As far as I am aware, the catholic version has a few extra books in, but all other modern christian bibles have the same number of books in.
If by sects you mean denominations, and by versions you mean translations, then maybe. However, the differences are negligible in wording, and not in the number of books.
Amleto said:
I do mean denominations although sect is a good word.
There are numerous different translations some with errors as simple as Adam and the apple which should have been orange, or the three wise men when there wasn't a mention of the number three.
I also think that there are large differences between some versions/translations - couldn't tell you what they were though as I don't study theology and Christianity.
One interesting 'fact' I 'picked' up was that in original scriptures there wasn't any mention of Satan as such. Don't ask me for a source because I couldn't give you one.....
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Except by those christians who think its the perfect bible: King James Only MovementAmleto said:
Actually, the terrorists would say they were the faithful and the rest of the muslims were taking the be happy bits out of context.Spawn said:
Who's to say that either of them is right?
The Inquisition used a single bible passage to justify their centuries-long witchhunts.
Living according to a 2000 year old code based on a malevolant God who sent his son to die in order to forgive humans their sins (and since he knows everything, he knew that humans would sin before they were even created) doesn't seem like anything different from peasant "be afraid of the lightning" superstitions. Except it makes more sense to be afraid of lightning.
Likewise, living according to a 1400 year old doctrine that says that men are superior to women, alcohol & pork are forbidden and that it's OK to blow yourself (and others) up as long as you're doing it for God is also nuts.
God is mostly used as an excuse for covering gaps in knowledge (don't understand something? God did it. Who needs science anyway?) or justifying crimes that no rational person would otherwise condone.
It's a form of "us and them" mentality, and that never ends well.
O rly?WIBSBOT said:
You have an opinion on something that you have no evidence for, and admit to knowing nothing about. Right-ho. Not much point in discussing it then since you can't back up anything, or logically argue against anything that some says counter to your opinionWIBSBOT said:
Allllllll-righty then.WIBSBOT said:
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G-MAN2004 said:
Liked this post, point of view across in the minimum number of words
Hope the OP finds what he's looking for...
Amleto said:
I was hoping that someone else might have more knowledge than me. I'm not after an argument about it - got better things to do with my time
Just thought that someone else might be interested enough to find out about it, maybe even the OP as he had expressed an opinion on joining a religion. If you want I can quote loads of Wikipedia articles at you 
Find me a bible that says 'three wise men', or an apple in the garden, or an orange. You were just spouting out your own misconceptions, and now you say youWIBSBOT said:
Perhaps YOU should find out about it before telling untruths. Here, knock yourself out
Amleto said:
We could start here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Christianity#Mistranslation_and_textual_corruption
One of my favourites is still the idea of the Virgin mary...
This one also provides some good starting points...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Bible
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I i don't usually comment on post's such as this.
1 the post could be a windup.
2 person trying to get his post count up,
3 to cuase a reaction between christian and muslim member's on here.
let's say this person is genuine and the above as he has stated is true.my answer do his question would be ( not pertaining to christianity).
just becuase you grown up as a muslim and gone to mosque and etc does not necessarily make a you muslim in the true sense.you have grown up beleiving what your family and generation before you have belived,(in other word's blind faith)is this faith,?your belief what have you done to achive this belief?,have you actually gone out of your way to understand/experince what islam is? reading quran.going to mosque is not islam,the question you should be asking is WHO ARE YOU? WHERE HAVE YOU COME FROM? WHENCE ARE YOU GOING? (sarcastic comment let fly).
what aspect do you think is lacking,why are you feeling the way you are at the mo, these question regarding your self should the first and formost answered before looking for another route.only by knowing yourself can you come to understand what path you want, be it islam/ christianity or whatever
have to say find it intrguing the amount post's you come across these day's on different forum's regarding how religion/muslim's, seem to be the tyrant's/evil incarnate/fanatic's/hypocrtical/the big TERRORIST'S)/would be bin laden's who primary mission in life is to blow themself and other's into bit's.it seem so called islamic expert are sprouting out of the ground so fast like mole's in a field.
find it amusing how mob mentailty seem to rule the roost these day's.media is the new bible, what is seen and heard is the truth as far as the sheep is concerned,doesn't matter that the wolve's are killing sheep to satisfy thier own hunger.
but i guess i have wondered from my original point and my closing word's would be
" to argue,deliberate with the DEAF
UMB:and BLIND is worse than stupidity"
"to you is your religion/belief or lack of, to me is mine and let god/death decide who is right and wrong"
zia
1 the post could be a windup.
2 person trying to get his post count up,
3 to cuase a reaction between christian and muslim member's on here.
let's say this person is genuine and the above as he has stated is true.my answer do his question would be ( not pertaining to christianity).
just becuase you grown up as a muslim and gone to mosque and etc does not necessarily make a you muslim in the true sense.you have grown up beleiving what your family and generation before you have belived,(in other word's blind faith)is this faith,?your belief what have you done to achive this belief?,have you actually gone out of your way to understand/experince what islam is? reading quran.going to mosque is not islam,the question you should be asking is WHO ARE YOU? WHERE HAVE YOU COME FROM? WHENCE ARE YOU GOING? (sarcastic comment let fly).
what aspect do you think is lacking,why are you feeling the way you are at the mo, these question regarding your self should the first and formost answered before looking for another route.only by knowing yourself can you come to understand what path you want, be it islam/ christianity or whatever
have to say find it intrguing the amount post's you come across these day's on different forum's regarding how religion/muslim's, seem to be the tyrant's/evil incarnate/fanatic's/hypocrtical/the big TERRORIST'S)/would be bin laden's who primary mission in life is to blow themself and other's into bit's.it seem so called islamic expert are sprouting out of the ground so fast like mole's in a field.
find it amusing how mob mentailty seem to rule the roost these day's.media is the new bible, what is seen and heard is the truth as far as the sheep is concerned,doesn't matter that the wolve's are killing sheep to satisfy thier own hunger.
but i guess i have wondered from my original point and my closing word's would be
" to argue,deliberate with the DEAF
UMB:and BLIND is worse than stupidity""to you is your religion/belief or lack of, to me is mine and let god/death decide who is right and wrong"
zia
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