Replace ceiling

robj20

robj20

robj20

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We have been getting a room ready for decorating still lost to do, so far we have the walls stripped to plaster, one wall looks to need a skim as the paper pulled lots of little bubbles of plaster off.
Skirting boards are off as well replacing these, so some repairing of the plaster needed have some hardwall and multi finish for that.

Now onto the ceiling, it looks to be artex and that horrible stalactite pattern. Her dads idea is to put up a dropped ceiling consisting of a thin timber frame and plasterboard/skim.
My idea is to remove the whole ceiling and dryline (i hate plastering and would rather avoid doing anymore than patching up) with 12.5 plasterboard, 38mm drywall screws, should be by far the cheapest option just dirtier obviously. Then give it a seal and paper it.
Its a bedroom and have easy access to the loft for removing the loft boards and insulation, which i plan on replacing with celotex rather than the fiber stuff, i read its better when space is limited as with under loft boards.

So am i biting off more than i can chew, she thinks so.
 
I would remove the ceiling and put up a new one.

How old is the house? (Presume the artex has been up for a while and it can contain asbestos if its old enough.

If it does, consult the local authority health dept. It is not dangerous if it isn't disturbed.

Your other options are to do as your partners dad suggests by putting up a lower ceiling without disturbing the old one or skimming the artex until it creates a new flat ceiling.
 
House was built around 1960
Asbestos doesn't worry me in the slightest, stick mask and paper suite on and have at it, i'm not one for over the top health and safety BS.

I don't mind doing the odd bit of plastering such as filling in chases but the thought of skimming an entire wall/ceiling has me fearing for a worse finish than the artex.

The OCD part of me would hate to do a dropped ceiling knowing the old one is there and ive lost space.
 
Wash it down with soapy water.

Phone plasterer, Skim over (listen to plasterer call your names you never heard of before) then paint.

Good for another 50 years.
 
As SPG says i would just leave it alone and get it skimmed over.

Infact thats what ive done in all of the rooms in my house where i have not needed to replace the ceiling.
 
Problem with that idea is there are cracks showing so they would need dealing with first wouldnt they, did they not tape the board seams or unsupported edges of plaster board.
 
I see the cost of replacing as,

plasterboard
drywall screws
plasterboard tape
plasterboard joint filler

and maybe some timber for noggins
 
How high are your ceilings? Having pulled down a small section of ceiling recently due to no other option i would strongly advise against it. Such a messy job, countless years of soot and plaster raining down on you. I did consider simply over boarding but none of the joists were at sufficient centres and there is a fair amount of sagging. I went for the option of dropping the ceiling by 10cm, whacking up some CLS stud work and plaster boarding.
 
Had mine skimmed. Plasterer just removed all the spikey bits and skimmed it until lovely and smooth. Sure we have a couple cracks but they can be dealt with.
 
When we bought our bungalow all the ceilings were bowed due to water leaks over the years - got some plasterers in and they said cross batten and board - so left them to it - they chopped out bit of ceiling under each joist - screwed lathes up (90 deg to trusses) and boarded - You can't see if it's been dropped at all and only lost about 50mm.

Having it cross battened also held my trusses in place - there was no cross braces or diag braces on trusses. - I did what I could about that later on.
 
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