Ride safe, get a decent helmet.

Vonhelmet said:
To be fair I don't imagine many bikes coming off too well in a fight with a tree like that.

Also top marks to the chap in the video for not even having any clothes on his upper body.
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True, as you already know, I was only jk...

I did think that was quite funny though, decent bike, all the lower gear and nothing on the top half apart from a lid.

I look like an American footballer going DH :D
 
merlin said:
https://youtu.be/q0G2zuOqsRA

Yeah, I think I'm happy wearing a helmet! I bet that bike is a lot easier to throw into the car now. :p

In fact - I'm going to buy a better one, I'd rather give myself a fighting chance.
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as I've said I have no problem with wearing a helmet in conditions like that, you're flying around, between trees, dirt jumping at high speed etc! I do the same while bmxing!

but park rides, shop rides etc should be helmet free, the infrastructure on the roads should allow cyclists to cycle safely!
 
Malt_Vinegar said:
Was out riding trails today with my brother and unfortunately saw a man die after a big accident.
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Ride sensibly and take safety seriously. I am sure most do, but a reminder will not hurt :(
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Agreed, without a helmet it is very unlikely I would be here today. It pains me to see cyclists with no helmet (which are numerous unfortunately).
 
grudas said:
as I've said I have no problem with wearing a helmet in conditions like that, you're flying around, between trees, dirt jumping at high speed etc! I do the same while bmxing!

but park rides, shop rides etc should be helmet free, the infrastructure on the roads should allow cyclists to cycle safely!
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'Should' being the key word. If you were that confident, you would be saying 'does' or 'will'.
 
Phil W said:
'Should' being the key word. If you were that confident, you would be saying 'does' or 'will'.
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well of course its a "should" because UK is so far behind other countries which try and make cycling popular/easy/safe! :) what I'm trying to say is that instead of covering yourself in bulletproof gear to cycle to shops you should be able to do it without! helmet is not the problem, forcing helmets would only lower the number of cyclists = missing the point.
 
I can't understand why you seem to be so antI helmet even if just popping down to the shops. Protecting the old brain matter should be at the top of your list really. I hear what your saying about its not all that safe but you do hit higher speeds than walking, generally ride on the road and a load of other differences so until we get away from the current acceptance of bikes on our roads etc I think helmets should be compulsory
 
The whole "helmets should be compulsory" angle is an extremely simple and single-dimensional way to look at it. The amount of risk you take by not wearing a helmet is actually not huge, not matter how many anecdotal horror stories you can find online. The knock-on effect to cycling uptake is likely to be bad though and given the current climate of "everyone is fat because they don't do anything" that's not a good thing for the health of society as a whole. Even that is over-simplifying things.

edit: For road cycling I mean - I don't think anyone is arguing against wearing a helmet whilst riding technical trails on an MTB.
 
FrenchTart said:
The whole "helmets should be compulsory" angle is an extremely simple and single-dimensional way to look at it. The amount of risk you take by not wearing a helmet is actually not huge, not matter how many anecdotal horror stories you can find online. The knock-on effect to cycling uptake is likely to be bad though and given the current climate of "everyone is fat because they don't do anything" that's not a good thing for the health of society as a whole. Even that is over-simplifying things.

edit: For road cycling I mean - I don't think anyone is arguing against wearing a helmet whilst riding technical trails on an MTB.
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exactly! bang on what I'm trying to say.. cycling should be easy! yet even now, without laws we have people who commute 3miles by car! :rolleyes:
 
grudas said:
exactly! bang on what I'm trying to say.. cycling should be easy! yet even now, without laws we have people who commute 3miles by car! :rolleyes:
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I'd say cycling has got easier, more people are cycling, more are getting into it day by day. I'd like to say in the near future even more people will be accepting of cyclists especially on the road. I sold my road bike because I found it way to dangerous with road users clipping me on the way past. Maybe making helmets compulsory for certain activities is the way it will go. As we can all agree off road MTB should be. Id say certain levels of Road should be.

Grudas you have to admit there is a certain "trend" in the BMX community where its cool to run brake-less and wear no helmet while doing massive jumps. Its just stupidity, surely you can see that?
 
MrKnifey said:
I'd say cycling has got easier, more people are cycling, more are getting into it day by day. I'd like to say in the near future even more people will be accepting of cyclists especially on the road. I sold my road bike because I found it way to dangerous with road users clipping me on the way past. Maybe making helmets compulsory for certain activities is the way it will go. As we can all agree off road MTB should be. Id say certain levels of Road should be.

Grudas you have to admit there is a certain "trend" in the BMX community where its cool to run brake-less and wear no helmet while doing massive jumps. Its just stupidity, surely you can see that?
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which is what I'm trying to get at, instead of covering yourself is plastic and pretending that it should be "normal" to wear a helmet on a quick to-the-shop ride, we should improve cycling infrastructure so cyclists are separated from motor traffic.

it might be cool for some but stereotyping me and screaming that I ride(rode) brakeless is mad, I used my bmx for commuting to college too, it always had a rear brake and I always had brakes while track riding not that they do much on dirt :) I don't scream "never wear a helmet" helmets have their purpose, I ride fast on the roads, share roads with cars etc and I prefer to now wear a helmet for my own sake!

if I was riding on quite cycle lanes that are separate from motor traffic I would not wear one, why should I? yes you can crash even low speed but the chances are low of crashing never mind hitting your head to a point where you risk your life.

on that note, with infrastructure cyclist training should come in too! many are totally unaware of blind spots, turning angles etc and put them selves at risk.
 
NoNameNoNumber said:
I have a helmet for:
Work
Road bike
MTB bike
Motorbike
Snowboard
And skateboard

Wouldn't partake in any of the above now without wearing one, like wearing a seatbelt...
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Haha. The helmet baron :)
I don't have a helmet for work, but I do have a hard hat for when I'm working outside by someone up a ladder who's raining down bits of broken mortar on me.
Also have a road helmet/mtb helmet (just invested in a FF Parachute), snowboard helmet and skate helmet.

And yeah - I wouldn't do any of the above without one. I used to skate without anything, and didn't badly hurt myself. I guess I just bounce as well as I did when I was a youngster.
 
grudas said:
which is what I'm trying to get at, instead of covering yourself is plastic and pretending that it should be "normal" to wear a helmet on a quick to-the-shop ride, we should improve cycling infrastructure so cyclists are separated from motor traffic.

on that note, with infrastructure cyclist training should come in too! many are totally unaware of blind spots, turning angles etc and put them selves at risk.
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I completely agree with this/these.
When i were a lad we had to(?) do cycling proficiency... and I'm sure this was when i was about 5. Had a road layout done from cones and the police brought some portable traffic lights and various mini road signs.

Perhaps I was older than 5, but it was at my first school and I moved when I was 6... it was definitely when I was still in primary school.

I wonder how many cyclists DON'T hold a driving licence and aren't fully aware of the highway code. Probably a lot, around me anyway... the ones not kitted out on a road bike, anyway...

But yeah - where possible motor vehicles AND pedestrians should be kept separate from cyclists, ideally.

I wish they'd massively increase the national cycle network between towns/cities - I'd be happy cycling up to 30 miles each way to commute to work... if I didn't have to do 99% of it on the roads, shared with lorries and idiot drivers.
 
I've been mtbing for years now and bmxing even before then and it was literally only 18months ago I had a bad crash and wasnt wearing a helmet. Pretty big stuff as well but perhaps because I've been freeriding so long and never really had an off I though I was fairly invincible...

When I was p-ing cerebral fluid through my nose and my arm was under my chin I knew i should probably put a lid on
 
Jono said:
I completely agree with this/these.
When i were a lad we had to(?) do cycling proficiency... and I'm sure this was when i was about 5. Had a road layout done from cones and the police brought some portable traffic lights and various mini road signs.

Perhaps I was older than 5, but it was at my first school and I moved when I was 6... it was definitely when I was still in primary school.

I wonder how many cyclists DON'T hold a driving licence and aren't fully aware of the highway code. Probably a lot, around me anyway... the ones not kitted out on a road bike, anyway...

But yeah - where possible motor vehicles AND pedestrians should be kept separate from cyclists, ideally.

I wish they'd massively increase the national cycle network between towns/cities - I'd be happy cycling up to 30 miles each way to commute to work... if I didn't have to do 99% of it on the roads, shared with lorries and idiot drivers.
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I don't hold driving license but I do wish that more effort was made to educate cyclists before they take to the road...and to educate drivers about how to behave around cyclists.

I have to say that I see tons of terrible cyclists with no situational awareness. Given that supposedly the majority of cyclists also hold driving licenses I'm not convinced that it really makes any difference to how good/bad someone is on the road.
 
grudas said:
which is what I'm trying to get at, instead of covering yourself is plastic and pretending that it should be "normal" to wear a helmet on a quick to-the-shop ride, we should improve cycling infrastructure so cyclists are separated from motor traffic.
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I keep getting into arguments about this on road.cc, but I think the infrastructure ship has sailed. There's barely any room in city centres as it is. Besides, I don't think infrastructure actually does anything to improve driver behaviour, and given most of my riding is done on roads that will never get dedicated infrastucture in my lifetime. or on country lanes where it would be a total waste of time, I'd rather drivers learned how to actually drive and be patient and so on.

Relying on infrastructure makes it seem like drivers would only be prevented from killing people in town centres by virtue of whatever segregation was in place, but would then be freed from this oppression in the countryside and could merrily drive into cyclists again.
 
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