Right lets talk everyone - are we all just been psychologically tricked into "needing" new graphics cards?

[Quartz]

With regards to VR I've been told that VR chat takes up all the VRAM you can throw at it so if Intel or AMD were to release a mid-range card with 32 or even 64 GB VRAM then that would sell like gangbusters to that market.

 

[Capitano]

how many generations till games dont even attempt to make a frame and gpus just imagine the game for us with their ai powers

Instead of multi frame generation, its every frame generation!

 

[varkanoid]

Instead of multi frame generation, its every frame generation!

and VR replaced by a Holodeck.

 

[Sumanji]

64 fps, 99th 55fps low - and absolutely flawless looking image

Mate, dipping down from 100+ to ~70fps is disturbingly noticeable to me (in Fallout 76).

60fps hasn't been "good enough" for the last 10+ years, imho. Even consoles now push to 120fps with the right TV.

That's not to say I disagree with your original question (we definitely have been tricked ), but I think there are situations when more horsepower certainly makes the experience better.

 

[Octoplex7]

Instead of multi frame generation, its every frame generation!

Once the game is installed, you just press a button and it plays itself from there.

 

[RanxZy]

Hi, is this Graphics Cards Anonymous?

My name is Impulse Buyer and it's been 2 years since Jensens marketing destroyed my wallet.

 

[TNA]

This really comes down to personal preferences.

If you are happy with the performance of your system then you really don't need to upgrade.

For me I like to target my monitor refresh rate but happy for it to not always hit that target so for me anything above 100fps.

I am also happy to drop some settings but I do not want to play on a game that is much worst quality than a console.
So I target ultra/high.

What I have also learnt over the years is that CPU upgrade is much more beneficial than the GPU.
I have recently just experienced this going from i7 8700k to 7800x3D my GPU gained extra performance now hit 100% load in all games.
I could have easy put the blame onto the GPU and upgraded the GPU brute forcing performance without really thinking about the real problem being the CPU.

After all these years on this forum you just learnt about CPU bottlenecking? Lol

 

[TNA]

What you should have learnt is that using a 7/8 yr old 6 core CPU with a modern GPU is a bad idea!

In reality, all things being equal, a GPU upgrade is still more beneficial than a CPU upgrade when it comes to gaming.

Exactly. Seems he has not learnt much if he thinks CPU upgrade is more beneficial than GPU.

 

[Ayahuasca]

After all these years on this forum you just learnt about CPU bottlenecking? Lol

It's not even a fair comparison since he's talking about upgrading from a 7 year old CPU lmao.

Even with an 8700k he'd notice a much bigger difference going from say a 1080ti released that year to something like a 4080 unless he's still gaming at 1080p.

 

[shankly1985]

After all these years on this forum you just learnt about CPU bottlenecking? Lol

No I understand CPu bottlenecking. It's just it isn't always apparent that a system is bottlenecking due to the CPU.

The i7 8700k wouldn't always show 100% load even when the GPU isn't getting less than 100%

A GPU you see 100% load and know it's bring pushed to it's limit. In this case a new GPU would increase the performance.

A CPu on the other hand plays a massive part in the overall PC performance. Without doing a lot of bigging through logging software you would belive the CPu is doing fine.
You then have another limiting factor is RAM speed that that DDR4 can impact a struggling CPu.

You can then also blame the games bad optimisation that I feel a lot of users do without realising the impact of their own system.

 

[Sc00p007]

Yeh, there seems a misconception that you are only being cpu bottlenecked if your cpu has cores at 100%. You can easily have bottlenecks without any cores loaded 100%. It's much harder to pin down though.

 

[Alt0153]

Yeh, there seems a misconception that you are only being cpu bottlenecked if your cpu has cores at 100%. You can easily have bottlenecks without any cores loaded 100%. It's much harder to pin down though.

cpu bottleneck can be figurered out from gpu usage tho, if your gpu isnt at 95%+ its a cpu bottleneck generally

 

[Grim5]

GPU-a-holics anonymous

 

[throwaway4372]

Advertising.
Exploits the brain into buying something that otherwise wouldn't have been bought.

Same as every other product, gpu isn't a special case.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Advertising.
Exploits the brain into buying something that otherwise wouldn't have been bought.

Same as every other product, gpu isn't a special case.

I've ignored ads and marketing for years now, but I have bought some expensive GPUs, so I'm not sure how this applies.

While I'm sure some 5090 buyers may have seen a nVidia ad telling them they'll get 500fps with MFG in the latest games, I think most are a little more educated than that.

 

[shankly1985]

cpu bottleneck can be figurered out from gpu usage tho, if your gpu isnt at 95%+ its a cpu bottleneck generally

This is far from the truth. Your GPU not hitting 95%+ can be from multiple issues.

This can range from game coding, to system software, to hardware limitations.

 

[CuriousTomCat]

We need the new graphics card because we're psychology tricked into paying full price for an unfinished game. Essentially it's beta testing.

These days I wait at least 2 years for the bugs to be fixed, new features added, the price drops from £60 to around £10, and you can get the same framerate on a current gen lower tier GPU.

There's huge demand for unfinished games so i don't see it changing.

 

[Szydero]

Only a person with no technical knowledge will fall easily for this marketing bs "it would not be possible without AI" for 2k quid

 

[darkwildchild79]

I will accept any new graphic card if someone wanted to kindly donate one to me

 

[VincentHanna]

Advertising.
Exploits the brain into buying something that otherwise wouldn't have been bought.

Same as every other product, gpu isn't a special case.

Yep.

There's people with £1000 worth of Hue lights in their house for example.